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	<title>Comments on: Chery JV develops hydrogen fuel cell car</title>
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	<description>Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry</description>
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		<title>By: chrisbangle</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/10/30/chery-jv-develops-hydrogen-fuel-cell-car/#comment-54612</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisbangle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least they have started doing it. what is P and p2 doing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least they have started doing it. what is P and p2 doing?</p>
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		<title>By: ysyslys</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/10/30/chery-jv-develops-hydrogen-fuel-cell-car/#comment-54349</link>
		<dc:creator>ysyslys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>clean energy to drive the car like hydrogen would be powerfull sell point in coming day. hydrocarbon base (fosil fuel) energy is getting limited and harm to earth enviroment. No doubt that the current technology in producing hydrogen is ineffective,costly and may generate some pollution. But this is a real cycle of technology improvement. No earth or poison air mean no place for human living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clean energy to drive the car like hydrogen would be powerfull sell point in coming day. hydrocarbon base (fosil fuel) energy is getting limited and harm to earth enviroment. No doubt that the current technology in producing hydrogen is ineffective,costly and may generate some pollution. But this is a real cycle of technology improvement. No earth or poison air mean no place for human living.</p>
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		<title>By: szw</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/10/30/chery-jv-develops-hydrogen-fuel-cell-car/#comment-54293</link>
		<dc:creator>szw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>finish lor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>finish lor</p>
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		<title>By: armandd</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/10/30/chery-jv-develops-hydrogen-fuel-cell-car/#comment-54283</link>
		<dc:creator>armandd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that is one ugly car.</description>
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		<title>By: DG</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/10/30/chery-jv-develops-hydrogen-fuel-cell-car/#comment-54272</link>
		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although hydrogen is lauded as environmental - just to display my ignorance - I&#039;ve got a few questions. 

Lets say everyone is using Hydrogen. Will the inevitable hydrogen leaks associated with massive usage 

* eventually react with oxygen possibly reducing levels of oxygen in the atmosphere? 

* float into the upper atmosphere and have some effect on sunlight? 

* drift off into space and so reduce net water supplies â€“ given water electrolysis will be itâ€™s source? 

Also will hydrogen cars and tankers be potential bombs? Even with the best safety measures accidents happen, terrorists see potential, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although hydrogen is lauded as environmental &#8211; just to display my ignorance &#8211; I&#8217;ve got a few questions. </p>
<p>Lets say everyone is using Hydrogen. Will the inevitable hydrogen leaks associated with massive usage </p>
<p>* eventually react with oxygen possibly reducing levels of oxygen in the atmosphere? </p>
<p>* float into the upper atmosphere and have some effect on sunlight? </p>
<p>* drift off into space and so reduce net water supplies â€“ given water electrolysis will be itâ€™s source? </p>
<p>Also will hydrogen cars and tankers be potential bombs? Even with the best safety measures accidents happen, terrorists see potential, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: protonGL</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/10/30/chery-jv-develops-hydrogen-fuel-cell-car/#comment-54265</link>
		<dc:creator>protonGL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hynrogen or what so ever, 

the very own we NG have  in PAKA burnt to the air freely.

cm on ,MAKE USE of it, ....is it toooo hard and complicated,
(or someone just loosing money out of it?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hynrogen or what so ever, </p>
<p>the very own we NG have  in PAKA burnt to the air freely.</p>
<p>cm on ,MAKE USE of it, &#8230;.is it toooo hard and complicated,<br />
(or someone just loosing money out of it?)</p>
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		<title>By: e-nabilll</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/10/30/chery-jv-develops-hydrogen-fuel-cell-car/#comment-54259</link>
		<dc:creator>e-nabilll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wd hapily get a proper diesel than a hydrogen car...thse new diesels are incredible in terms of power.torque and FC...beside..i can refuel anytime at any station..hydrogen have to wait for it to be common sight only thn u wil see its own filling station...not practical for me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wd hapily get a proper diesel than a hydrogen car&#8230;thse new diesels are incredible in terms of power.torque and FC&#8230;beside..i can refuel anytime at any station..hydrogen have to wait for it to be common sight only thn u wil see its own filling station&#8230;not practical for me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cbljkkj</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/10/30/chery-jv-develops-hydrogen-fuel-cell-car/#comment-54254</link>
		<dc:creator>cbljkkj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hydrogen is also prone to igniting and exploding if in a collision that endangers the fuel tank. Just thing &quot;Hindenburg&quot;. 

Although hydrogen may be the next untapped resource for the automotive industry, they certainly have to adjudicate whether or not it would be safe for use on the roads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hydrogen is also prone to igniting and exploding if in a collision that endangers the fuel tank. Just thing &#8220;Hindenburg&#8221;. </p>
<p>Although hydrogen may be the next untapped resource for the automotive industry, they certainly have to adjudicate whether or not it would be safe for use on the roads.</p>
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		<title>By: cbljkkj</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/10/30/chery-jv-develops-hydrogen-fuel-cell-car/#comment-54253</link>
		<dc:creator>cbljkkj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hydrogen is also prone to igniting and exploding if in a collision that endangers the fuel tank. Just thing &quot;Hindenburg&quot;. 

Although hydrogen may be the next untapped resource for the automotive but they certainly have to adjudicate whether or not it would be safe for use on the roads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hydrogen is also prone to igniting and exploding if in a collision that endangers the fuel tank. Just thing &#8220;Hindenburg&#8221;. </p>
<p>Although hydrogen may be the next untapped resource for the automotive but they certainly have to adjudicate whether or not it would be safe for use on the roads.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Seleigh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/10/30/chery-jv-develops-hydrogen-fuel-cell-car/#comment-54252</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Seleigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another product of the people who believe that the term &quot;R&amp;D&quot; means &quot;receive &amp; duplicate&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another product of the people who believe that the term &#8220;R&amp;D&#8221; means &#8220;receive &amp; duplicate&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: honda_driver</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/10/30/chery-jv-develops-hydrogen-fuel-cell-car/#comment-54249</link>
		<dc:creator>honda_driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 03:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its basically a copy of the chevy spark. wonder how well designed it the crash structure of the car?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its basically a copy of the chevy spark. wonder how well designed it the crash structure of the car?</p>
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		<title>By: megadisc</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/10/30/chery-jv-develops-hydrogen-fuel-cell-car/#comment-54245</link>
		<dc:creator>megadisc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 02:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another competitor for the small car market . .
i hope the quality lives up to its name !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another competitor for the small car market . .<br />
i hope the quality lives up to its name !</p>
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		<title>By: drM</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/10/30/chery-jv-develops-hydrogen-fuel-cell-car/#comment-54243</link>
		<dc:creator>drM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 02:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the look is hideous! improve the design. but I think Cherry is doing allright. the technology is good. wonder why we sell the Augusta for rm4..I am not playing the political card here, but I wish we had the time to throughly dig at the best motocycle design company&#039;s technology!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the look is hideous! improve the design. but I think Cherry is doing allright. the technology is good. wonder why we sell the Augusta for rm4..I am not playing the political card here, but I wish we had the time to throughly dig at the best motocycle design company&#8217;s technology!</p>
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		<title>By: aaron_38my</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/10/30/chery-jv-develops-hydrogen-fuel-cell-car/#comment-54242</link>
		<dc:creator>aaron_38my</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 01:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not bad for china but they should not be too proud of their ahievement and make empty claims. after all, fuel cell vehicle are not of a new thing in the automotive world. many other manufacturers have had the same achievement regardless of independent or dependent.
however,my best wishes to them and hope they improve their design. even though i&#039;m a chinese, their design is too much of a chinese look which i doubt would appeal to many.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not bad for china but they should not be too proud of their ahievement and make empty claims. after all, fuel cell vehicle are not of a new thing in the automotive world. many other manufacturers have had the same achievement regardless of independent or dependent.<br />
however,my best wishes to them and hope they improve their design. even though i&#8217;m a chinese, their design is too much of a chinese look which i doubt would appeal to many.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracks</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/10/30/chery-jv-develops-hydrogen-fuel-cell-car/#comment-54238</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree with 4G63T DSM that the problem with hydrogen fuel cell vehicles lies in the supply and availability of hydrogen. Just take an example of NGV vehicles in Malaysia, how many NGV equipped stations are there around? Besides that, supply of Hydrogen might be monopolized by certain parties again causing limited availability.

One more thing, just a word of caution to everyone. There are conmen out there trying to solicitates funds from its potential victims claiming to be able to develop some form of proprietary Hydrogen generation method used as fuel for fuel cell. So just be careful when you and your friends are approaches by anyone claiming to be able to generate hydrogen for fuel cells in a commercially viable manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree with 4G63T DSM that the problem with hydrogen fuel cell vehicles lies in the supply and availability of hydrogen. Just take an example of NGV vehicles in Malaysia, how many NGV equipped stations are there around? Besides that, supply of Hydrogen might be monopolized by certain parties again causing limited availability.</p>
<p>One more thing, just a word of caution to everyone. There are conmen out there trying to solicitates funds from its potential victims claiming to be able to develop some form of proprietary Hydrogen generation method used as fuel for fuel cell. So just be careful when you and your friends are approaches by anyone claiming to be able to generate hydrogen for fuel cells in a commercially viable manner.</p>
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		<title>By: 4G63T DSM</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/10/30/chery-jv-develops-hydrogen-fuel-cell-car/#comment-54236</link>
		<dc:creator>4G63T DSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue is  NOT whether a company has developed a Fuel Cell car but whether a company has made a Fuel Cell car ready for production.

Many Manufacturers have already had Fuel Cell prototypes such has Honda&#039;s FCX and the fuel cell powered Mercedes A Class many years ago.

How Cherry can claim to be the first auto manufacturer to &quot;develop&quot; a fuel cell car is beyond me. 

Developing a fuel cell car is not something difficult. We had access to that technology 20 odd years. The major problem is not the vehicle. The problem lies with the fueling infrastructure. See any Hydrogen refilling stations around? Chances are if anything, the fuel cell would be powered by methonol instead of pure Hydrogen due to handling problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue is  NOT whether a company has developed a Fuel Cell car but whether a company has made a Fuel Cell car ready for production.</p>
<p>Many Manufacturers have already had Fuel Cell prototypes such has Honda&#8217;s FCX and the fuel cell powered Mercedes A Class many years ago.</p>
<p>How Cherry can claim to be the first auto manufacturer to &#8220;develop&#8221; a fuel cell car is beyond me. </p>
<p>Developing a fuel cell car is not something difficult. We had access to that technology 20 odd years. The major problem is not the vehicle. The problem lies with the fueling infrastructure. See any Hydrogen refilling stations around? Chances are if anything, the fuel cell would be powered by methonol instead of pure Hydrogen due to handling problems.</p>
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