melaka susah la

drop me a line, I can feed you with the details

calvinyeap@asiagis.com.sg

btw, how much is this packard bell nav. if u want to buy it saperately..?

The one you see in Bestari Sportivo in particular runs on Packard Bell. It is a portable personal GPS navigation hence you will not see it built-in to the dashboard. We are working with Naza and other local car manufacturers to have their future car models comes with in-dash navigation unit.

Now, some of you already know what GPS (Global Positioning System) Navigation does, but just some quick info for those who don’t know. It is a system that allows you to instantly know where you are. How that works? Well, the device will connect to satellites and generally it needs 3 satellites or more to triangulate your location. Now, with the device, you can search for road names or buildings and once u set them as destination, the device will give you voice prompt asking you to turn left, turn right, and so on, to guide you to the destination. You could also do a search on the nearby services such as Naza SC, ATM, Banks, Hotels, etc… This works well, if say you travel to a new location, and u could find the nearest ATM to withdraw money. Currently the map covers peninsular Malaysia being Klang Valley having the most detail map. We are rolling out the new map soon, and it will have detail map for the entire peninsular Malaysia.

Hope this will answer some of your Qs….

as far as i know, they got showroom in kg. baru..

one thing for sure the bestari sportivo is available for review at naza automall (beside federal h/way).

anybody know how much the angel eyes headlights cost?

i hev no idea too… where is it? maybe if i hev any help with Packard Bell navigation system that will be a diff story.. haha

maybe NAZA leave out C&C in the cold when it comes to the sportivo version.

either vin or you did mentioned that the warranty of the sportivo only covered by NAZA.

That might be the greatest hint of another NAZA shrewd business play. Whether it turn out great 4 them is for us to see…

btw, where is NAZa showroom in kg. pandan? hehe..

i think it's true like u said… but as a dealer the salepersons must be update/explain earlier about the new product ASAP before the launch to avoid the problem like vin200 & me encounter… how come u sell something that u don't know if it really exist or not?shame on them… hihi

anyway, must go to kg pandan to get a glimse of this GPS meh? aiyaakkk…

the problem might be down to different distributor.

naza 206 and the sportivo main dealer is NAZA.

therefore, the show unit are available at NAZA showroom at Kg. Pandan.

The Peugeot 'bluebox' beside federal highway that both of you visited is owned by Cycle & Carriage (C&C). They just sell the naza 206 as dealer only.

It is just that NAZA signed an agreement with them to do the warranty service for naza 206 as they have experience servicing peugeot 206.

So maybe NAZA don't update them or supply them with the sportivo as quick as Paul update us about it. Get it?

Who knows…Perhaps NAZA want sale of the sportivo all for themselves.

Who knows.

When i told them Kampung Pandan have the display unit with LCD, all i get from them was "huh?? err….really?" and yet they claim to be the main/HQ in KL area, maybe that was NAZA (modified) & they dint infrom them (Pegeot) -_-"

mtay said,

The saleperson told me all this accesories can be purchase/change on normal version of bestari from authorise dealer to make it look alike or better then the spotio with cheaper price. (RM8K + 4K(promotion) = RM12K)

I've have asked them to check for me the price for changing the lamp(front & rear) side mirror led, fuel cover, reverse sensor (where she told me its better installed by authorised dealer as the 206 is very complecated??) by that i can save more $$ on stuff which i dont like on the spotio version (leather seat in this case) beside that i can choose my favor color too(grey)

For the 16" rim she advise me not to change it as normal/original 206 will not support the 16" max only 15" spotio has been modified on suspention that y it look a bit higher (1-2")

And i found out that warranty was diff too!!!!! 206bestari was warranty by Peguet but not the Spotio version, it's by Naza -_-" As we know peguet service/knowledge is much more better than naza in 206.

By choosing the original ver i will have (RM4K pormotion discount) but not the spotio (but i reconfirm with the salesperson in Taipan, they say they have the same RM4K discount on spotio??) so who's right?? arhh????!!!!

Anyway the salesperson in Federal told me i will have varity design to choose for lamp (front & rare) that look better than spotio?!!?? o.O and they can changed for me before i get my car. So i'm here waitin for their quotation

Paul Tan,

I recheck with them today, they told mes there will be 2 version for the exhaust pipe ?_?

1. 2exhaust pipes where each on a side (left & right one)

2. 2exhaust pipes stick together (twins) on one side (that wat i saw in the show room)

osh_kosh

Maybe we meet the same salesperson :p too bad by the time i arrive there (evening) the MERCS showroom has alrady finished doing raya open house..ARhhh i miss the foods LMAO…

yesterday i went to the same showroom too…. yup, there is no navigation unit like paultan posted.. when i ask about it, the saleperson just like, "huh?what device?" when i explain to him and shows the price quotation (that he give to me earlier) he then said "oh that.. it was nothing, it just those instrument thing that shows u when to service, left, right,bla..bla.. and then they call it GPS" i was like.. "huh? what are u talking about?" now he make me more confuse.. is this GPS thing for real? is it really work? is it really come with this sportivo unit? at least he don't tell me that it was a mis-print mistake.. haha.. vin2000, i think that saleperson knows nothing!!! are we talking about the same person??? haha

anyway, i went there just to get more information about this navigation system that naza offer and very frustrated with the outcome… thanks GOD that MERCS showroom beside them doing raya open house.. the foods is good LOL…

overall, sportivo exterior kindda good..

Bodykit

Angel eye headlamps

LED tail lamps

Side mirrors with indicators

16 inch sports alloy wheels

Aluminium fuel cap cover

Twin exhaust pipes

Interior:

MOMO Pedals

Sports bucket leather seats

Red stitched leather steering

Red and black trim

Packard Bell GPS Navigation

Are you SURE you can get all this for RM8K??? If yes, pls pls let me know WHERE!!! I'm driving a 206 (the french one, not the malaysian one) and the bodykit alone would cost at least RM5K!!! And rims are not easy to find either.

Regarding the twin exhaust pipes, the sportio unit i saw only have it (twin) on one side and not let as state here with one on the left and one on the right of the rear bumper ?_?

Beside that mistake, from the price list i get 15" alloy wheel have changed to 16" alloy wheel too, and if u campare the 206bestari & the spotio version u can c that the sportio was a bit higher (approx 2" diff) the salesperson told me that they make it higher so they can fit in the 16" wheel. I just wonder why cant they recheck the pricelist spec before they actually push out to the market?

He told me only black was availalbe at the moment, eerrr… i like the grey color more!!! Y cant i just change the color nor buy the sportio kits :/ I just like the front & rare lamp design, for the interior color…. i've no comment on it, the color looks so ugly to me.

Beside that, there was no promotion on it as bestari 206 having promotion till december which offer RM4K rebate!!! (naza website show outdated info on the promotion RM2k + free road tax & insurance 1 year, but if u calc it, is around the same value), that make a diff of RM12K different!!!! o.O I wonder using less than RM12K i can change the 16" sport eim, rare & front light, resverse sensor, skirting, side miror LED?

Tested the 206 bestari that day too, pick up speed was really soso (3ppl onboard) compare to my wire 1.6(A) anyway it a diff model/car & cc, we cant really compare it :p Will buy it once i get the highest trade value from my car, mostly the original bestari206 except they have promotion on the spotio & the color can be changed =)

but the interior colour just too 'fiery' for me…

if want more sale.. lower the price instead of doing this sportivo thingy.

like the angel eyes too!

people should breakaway from toyota-honda mentality grip. boring car.

from what i understand, u need at least 3 satellite to triangulate your position

did malaysai have 3 GPS satellite??

ps; Hope msia can be one of VW auto hub.

well…it does make sense…

Thats why its a chicken and egg thing. The more 206s and what else is in the pipeline? 307, 407 etc., the better parts availability & parts pricing will become.

Take a look at some of the spare parts shops in Jalan Ipoh, PJ, etc. 5 years ago you wouldn't have seen Korean parts, now you can.

As for the other issues, I think once volume goes up it will. In Europe the roles are reversed. European cars are the strong ones, parts, aftersales, potong kereta (breakers yards), etc. Japanese cars are not at the top of the list.

In Malaysia somehow the Europeans lost the ball in the 70s when Toyota and Datsun invaded, followed by Honda … and after that they never got the chance to climb back up. The Japanese placed a firm foothold in ASEAN, and now thanks to CEPT they can produce cars here with 5% Import Duty on CKD, and maintain a healthy profit, good employee bonus (Toyota at least), with strong volumes to boot!

IMHO we are witnessing a resurgence of European brands, starting with Peugeot … they probably looked at how Daihatsu, Hyundai and Kia have placed a foothold here, and are following suit. I think it's good. Keeps the Japanese on their toes.

November 16, 2006 @ 10:11 am

This is a chicken & egg thing. Resale value is related to:

1) Distributor Sales & Service Network

2) Parts availability

3) Drivability, Quality & Reliability

4) Parts Pricing.

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Now that you've brought it up , I am curious as to all Points especially

-Parts availibility (ready stock at any friendly spare parts retailer like them Toyotas??)

-Parts Pricing ( are they localised or are they still French imports, which would raise prices)

-Reliability, will the 206 be as reliable as a VIOS or City come 3 yrs down the road when the warranty has finished.

I don't doubt the drivebility of a Peugeot as they make good handling cars but the general market is more interested in boring stuff like resale value, reliability, parts etc

Like motorhead says, any "ah chong workshop can fix" it but can the same be said of the Pug/Naza 206/B-star ?

An just for arguments sake, ANybody know in the last 3 months what are Naza's Bstar sales figures as compared to the Toyota/Honda duet?

A good test drive is just not enuf man…. many other factors we need to look.. how about FC?.. or not least, service support??… u said it yrself "Euro guys so far have been marking up profit margins because they sell small volume…"… i have a fren who owns a peugeot, his car left idle.. why??.. bcoz repair cost is beyond his budget.. now he waits anyone wants to buy his peugeot until today….

i never said this car is a crap!!.. but is it worth it??? may be vios or avanza r less superior, but they sure have their own advantages.. normal service at ah chong workshop also can.. spare parts anywhere, so many accessories available, easy to trade it & etc… and VVTI has its own good reputation.. it makes me change my old perception, automatic car's bad FC.. VVTI auto sets economical drive…. I-DSI is not so bad also, like twin spark.. but less PS….

Anyway.. the money is yours… like it so much??.. go ahead, buy la… what r u waiting for?.. talk is cheap…