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	<title>Comments on: Lotus gets Jinhua Youngman engineering deal</title>
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		<title>By: powerhaus</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/11/26/lotus-gets-jinhua-youngman-engineering-deal/#comment-56515</link>
		<dc:creator>powerhaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont know what is this bullshite about whiteman shite. if they are white means they are a step above others? in my opinion, they are just as good as thr locals....and i dare say local are better in many fields.  
 
I dont know about proton whiteman, but if their product is a half baked Campro, why would anybody buy a half baked bread from the Loaf in langkawi? 
 
campro my ass. where is the campro? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont know what is this bullshite about whiteman shite. if they are white means they are a step above others? in my opinion, they are just as good as thr locals&#8230;.and i dare say local are better in many fields. </p>
<p>I dont know about proton whiteman, but if their product is a half baked Campro, why would anybody buy a half baked bread from the Loaf in langkawi?</p>
<p>campro my ass. where is the campro?</p>
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		<title>By: powerhaus</title>
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		<dc:creator>powerhaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>most of us know nuts? to me, to only people who are full of shite are the people who think they know everything by making silly comments.  
 
So, Mr Bangle, do you have an official automotive engineering degree to be telling us what is a platform?  
 
Please tell us what is a platform. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>most of us know nuts? to me, to only people who are full of shite are the people who think they know everything by making silly comments. </p>
<p>So, Mr Bangle, do you have an official automotive engineering degree to be telling us what is a platform? </p>
<p>Please tell us what is a platform.</p>
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		<title>By: honda_driver</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/11/26/lotus-gets-jinhua-youngman-engineering-deal/#comment-56492</link>
		<dc:creator>honda_driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as usual, too many rubbish comments. its just a waste of time reading them actually.  nothing intelligent to contribute at all. 
 
as for my 2cents, i think it will most likely be a gen2/waja type platform as apposed to the VVA.  An aluminum chassis system like the VVA is way too expensive for mass production at this point in time, especially for China, and the fact that no one else in the world is doing it also, except for lotus. 
 
very good news to me. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as usual, too many rubbish comments. its just a waste of time reading them actually.  nothing intelligent to contribute at all.</p>
<p>as for my 2cents, i think it will most likely be a gen2/waja type platform as apposed to the VVA.  An aluminum chassis system like the VVA is way too expensive for mass production at this point in time, especially for China, and the fact that no one else in the world is doing it also, except for lotus.</p>
<p>very good news to me.</p>
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		<title>By: outspoken</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/11/26/lotus-gets-jinhua-youngman-engineering-deal/#comment-56483</link>
		<dc:creator>outspoken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alamak.. why la you all kecoh-kecoh. Lotus is making money, so good news la. before this lotus is only sedut duit proton. good news pun you nak treat as something bad ka.??. haiyaaa ..  
 
business point of view - lotus gets new customer, duit flowing in, everybody happy.... 
 
engineering point of view-- well nothing change, but atleast with the extra cash, lotus @ proton can use that..  
 
chinaman Jinhua is happy, whitemanlotus is happy, mixed man proton  is happy, .. i agree completely with chrisbangle </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alamak.. why la you all kecoh-kecoh. Lotus is making money, so good news la. before this lotus is only sedut duit proton. good news pun you nak treat as something bad ka.??. haiyaaa .. </p>
<p>business point of view &#8211; lotus gets new customer, duit flowing in, everybody happy&#8230;.</p>
<p>engineering point of view&#8211; well nothing change, but atleast with the extra cash, lotus @ proton can use that.. </p>
<p>chinaman Jinhua is happy, whitemanlotus is happy, mixed man proton  is happy, .. i agree completely with chrisbangle</p>
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		<title>By: long dong silver</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/11/26/lotus-gets-jinhua-youngman-engineering-deal/#comment-56477</link>
		<dc:creator>long dong silver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!!! Mr. Chris Bangle has left a comment? Maybe just another wannabe British baffoon living in Malaysia and getting gaji buta? Lotus Curry House is a money pit to make foreign contractors rich while the local staff get the shaft. No effort to build up local staff, just paying out British Pounds to the white man. Why? Because white man is great, and brown skin is no good in Protong eyes. Hahahahaha!!! Protong is in fact sponsoring the Bangsar and Hartamas pubs. Air kencing setan is flowing from their coffers. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!!! Mr. Chris Bangle has left a comment? Maybe just another wannabe British baffoon living in Malaysia and getting gaji buta? Lotus Curry House is a money pit to make foreign contractors rich while the local staff get the shaft. No effort to build up local staff, just paying out British Pounds to the white man. Why? Because white man is great, and brown skin is no good in Protong eyes. Hahahahaha!!! Protong is in fact sponsoring the Bangsar and Hartamas pubs. Air kencing setan is flowing from their coffers.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisbangle</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/11/26/lotus-gets-jinhua-youngman-engineering-deal/#comment-56440</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisbangle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 03:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>most of you guys here know nuts. sigh.... look at it from a business POV, not as another channel to hantam proton.  
 
i think they can make a better car there will be less politicians intefering with the company.  
 
platform sharing does not mean the car will look like the current cars. A good example is the S40, Mazda3 and the Focus. All are sharing the basic platform but the similarity ends there.  
 
But then again, i dont think some of u here know what is a platform. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>most of you guys here know nuts. sigh&#8230;. look at it from a business POV, not as another channel to hantam proton. </p>
<p>i think they can make a better car there will be less politicians intefering with the company. </p>
<p>platform sharing does not mean the car will look like the current cars. A good example is the S40, Mazda3 and the Focus. All are sharing the basic platform but the similarity ends there. </p>
<p>But then again, i dont think some of u here know what is a platform.</p>
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		<title>By: tamannegara</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/11/26/lotus-gets-jinhua-youngman-engineering-deal/#comment-56426</link>
		<dc:creator>tamannegara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lotus gent2 and lotus savvy?  haha 
i think only tarnish the lotus brand... 
but what to do? the chinese don want proton brand, 
bcoz is not international recognise....malaysia boleh or uk boleh? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lotus gent2 and lotus savvy?  haha</p>
<p>i think only tarnish the lotus brand&#8230;</p>
<p>but what to do? the chinese don want proton brand,</p>
<p>bcoz is not international recognise&#8230;.malaysia boleh or uk boleh?</p>
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		<title>By: protonGL</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/11/26/lotus-gets-jinhua-youngman-engineering-deal/#comment-56403</link>
		<dc:creator>protonGL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wv take the plant, 
 
since vw dont need proton stamping machine ,jual to china continue waja/g 2 chasis,  
 
so habisss,nil 
ACTUALLY la ,lobour cost  here + nitty gritty, we really  C A N &#039;T make car, 
thats the bottom line. reality </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wv take the plant,</p>
<p>since vw dont need proton stamping machine ,jual to china continue waja/g 2 chasis, </p>
<p>so habisss,nil</p>
<p>ACTUALLY la ,lobour cost  here + nitty gritty, we really  C A N &#039;T make car,</p>
<p>thats the bottom line. reality</p>
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		<title>By: kendo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/11/26/lotus-gets-jinhua-youngman-engineering-deal/#comment-56367</link>
		<dc:creator>kendo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 15:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT wil be called 
LOTUS Gen-2 
&amp; 
LOTUS Savvy </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT wil be called</p>
<p>LOTUS Gen-2</p>
<p>&amp;</p>
<p>LOTUS Savvy</p>
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		<title>By: maibatsu_thunder</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/11/26/lotus-gets-jinhua-youngman-engineering-deal/#comment-56360</link>
		<dc:creator>maibatsu_thunder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 14:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s just hope for them that there is a Hartamas, Bangsar, etc. to do R&amp;D (Relaxing &amp; Drinking) in Shanghai or Beijing. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#039;s just hope for them that there is a Hartamas, Bangsar, etc. to do R&amp;D (Relaxing &amp; Drinking) in Shanghai or Beijing.</p>
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		<title>By: long dong silver</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/11/26/lotus-gets-jinhua-youngman-engineering-deal/#comment-56352</link>
		<dc:creator>long dong silver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 14:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally got some business? I hope it is enough to feed all the expensive British engineers working in here for them. The local engineers are just decorations. No need to develop local guys. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally got some business? I hope it is enough to feed all the expensive British engineers working in here for them. The local engineers are just decorations. No need to develop local guys.</p>
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		<title>By: maibatsu_thunder</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/11/26/lotus-gets-jinhua-youngman-engineering-deal/#comment-56327</link>
		<dc:creator>maibatsu_thunder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 06:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope the Jinhua guys are not as patient as our people ... paying and waiting for Campro Cam Profiling System for how many years now, but still not ready!? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope the Jinhua guys are not as patient as our people &#8230; paying and waiting for Campro Cam Profiling System for how many years now, but still not ready!?</p>
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		<title>By: e-nabilll</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/11/26/lotus-gets-jinhua-youngman-engineering-deal/#comment-56320</link>
		<dc:creator>e-nabilll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 23:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont think thy wil use the VVA...the gen2/waja platform is actually quite good and can be configured in many ways jus that proton not utilizing the options..since costs are very important to those chinese makers..thn most probably thy wil go for the cheaper proton platforms.... 
 
wenever one of those chinse makers sign a deal with us..i feel like crying dono y! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont think thy wil use the VVA&#8230;the gen2/waja platform is actually quite good and can be configured in many ways jus that proton not utilizing the options..since costs are very important to those chinese makers..thn most probably thy wil go for the cheaper proton platforms&#8230;.</p>
<p>wenever one of those chinse makers sign a deal with us..i feel like crying dono y!</p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/11/26/lotus-gets-jinhua-youngman-engineering-deal/#comment-56317</link>
		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually if they use proton platform, its considered high tech for their county right? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually if they use proton platform, its considered high tech for their county right?</p>
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		<title>By: protonGL</title>
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		<dc:creator>protonGL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>only BUFORI can stay. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>only BUFORI can stay.</p>
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		<title>By: jeanloo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeanloo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How are they going to compete in chinan using Protob platform? Jinhua Gen2 and Jinhua Waja? How much they going to sell that in China amist the competitive pricing? Local will bash Proton Kau Kau.lol.... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How are they going to compete in chinan using Protob platform? Jinhua Gen2 and Jinhua Waja? How much they going to sell that in China amist the competitive pricing? Local will bash Proton Kau Kau.lol&#8230;.</p>
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