Comments on: Proton extends agreements http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:59:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: hameed koyakuti http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57558 hameed koyakuti Fri, 08 Dec 2006 09:02:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57558 Hehehe, nice work P2, planting a spy to head Proton........P1 cant never compete P2 bcoz the head is ex P2............ Kah kah kah...........head P1 must take over P2 immediately, if not never improve............. Hehehe, nice work P2, planting a spy to head Proton……..P1 cant never compete P2 bcoz the head is ex P2…………

Kah kah kah………..head P1 must take over P2 immediately, if not never improve………….

]]> By: al http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57522 al Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:34:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57522 Come on la Proton, we are waiting the MPV..........maybe in V8 engine...... not 1.6 liter, low power man. Come on la Proton, we are waiting the MPV……….maybe in V8 engine……

not 1.6 liter, low power man.

]]> By: nizam80 http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57419 nizam80 Thu, 07 Dec 2006 09:58:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57419 normal_user said, "nizam80, i dont think its a Gen2 sedan. I think its a Waja replacement they’ve been working on. No point of having a Waja & Gen2 sedan at the same time; sure cannibalising each other. What do u mean Gen2 wheelbase is LONG? at 2600mm its shorter compared to the Focus & Civic, and the same as Altis & Waja. Its not stretching if u just add a longer bonnet; the wheelbase stays the same. Stretching is like what they did with the Waja Chancellor/Perdana Exec." Thanks for the information. We will wait and see whether the Waja Replacement will come out by next year.. But, if they extend the bonnet, wouldn't it make the car longer than the Waja? Also, u are going to tell me that the uncomfortable low rear roofline still remains? Sorry out of topic. normal_user said,

"nizam80, i dont think its a Gen2 sedan. I think its a Waja replacement they’ve been working on. No point of having a Waja & Gen2 sedan at the same time; sure cannibalising each other.

What do u mean Gen2 wheelbase is LONG? at 2600mm its shorter compared to the Focus & Civic, and the same as Altis & Waja. Its not stretching if u just add a longer bonnet; the wheelbase stays the same. Stretching is like what they did with the Waja Chancellor/Perdana Exec."

Thanks for the information. We will wait and see whether the Waja Replacement will come out by next year.. But, if they extend the bonnet, wouldn't it make the car longer than the Waja? Also, u are going to tell me that the uncomfortable low rear roofline still remains?

Sorry out of topic.

]]> By: normal_user http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57405 normal_user Thu, 07 Dec 2006 08:07:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57405 nizam80, i dont think its a Gen2 sedan. I think its a Waja replacement they've been working on. No point of having a Waja & Gen2 sedan at the same time; sure cannibalising each other. What do u mean Gen2 wheelbase is LONG? at 2600mm its shorter compared to the Focus & Civic, and the same as Altis & Waja. Its not stretching if u just add a longer bonnet; the wheelbase stays the same. Stretching is like what they did with the Waja Chancellor/Perdana Exec. nizam80, i dont think its a Gen2 sedan. I think its a Waja replacement they've been working on. No point of having a Waja & Gen2 sedan at the same time; sure cannibalising each other.

What do u mean Gen2 wheelbase is LONG? at 2600mm its shorter compared to the Focus & Civic, and the same as Altis & Waja. Its not stretching if u just add a longer bonnet; the wheelbase stays the same. Stretching is like what they did with the Waja Chancellor/Perdana Exec.

]]> By: nizam80 http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57383 nizam80 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:54:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57383 Honestly, l kinda liked the design and built of new Proton cars (new Waja, Neo, Savvy). But, this kind of news from Proton really make me sick. What i heard is, for 2007, there's only 1 confirmed model - GEN2 sedan rite? Wonder how are they going to further stretch the GEN2's body which ALREADY has a long wheelbase??!!! Honestly, l kinda liked the design and built of new Proton cars (new Waja, Neo, Savvy). But, this kind of news from Proton really make me sick. What i heard is, for 2007, there's only 1 confirmed model – GEN2 sedan rite? Wonder how are they going to further stretch the GEN2's body which ALREADY has a long wheelbase??!!!

]]> By: tamannegara http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57374 tamannegara Wed, 06 Dec 2006 22:21:48 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57374 keep extend...than do not set date la. or just provide longer time frame such as 1 year or 2 year. now thing make like proton is rushing to partner with others... keep extend…than do not set date la.

or just provide longer time frame such as 1 year or 2 year.

now thing make like proton is rushing to partner with others…

]]> By: e-nabilll http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57361 e-nabilll Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:56:59 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57361 waiting for some spy shots...thats wen u know thy already started working on the new perdana...! waiting for some spy shots…thats wen u know thy already started working on the new perdana…!

]]> By: protonGL http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57348 protonGL Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:38:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57348 others make car 30,000rm we make car 40,000rm (net price minus dirty thing ) DONT MAKE CAR. others make car 30,000rm

we make car 40,000rm (net price minus dirty thing )

DONT MAKE CAR.

]]> By: osh_kosh http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57344 osh_kosh Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:45:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57344 guys..guys... think +ve loh... hmm.. i can't think of any... :) guys..guys… think +ve loh…

hmm.. i can't think of any… :)

]]> By: transformer http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57339 transformer Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:12:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57339 DAMN PITY protonian.... coz they are simple the BEST! DAMN PITY protonian…. coz they are simple the BEST!

]]> By: Initial D http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57337 Initial D Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:56:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57337 hm...............duno wt will turn out...........or will it turn out to be anythg.......... even ur fren oso feel bad..........proton rili is in a much more trouble state than i tot. hm……………duno wt will turn out………..or will it turn out to be anythg……….

even ur fren oso feel bad……….proton rili is in a much more trouble state than i tot.

]]> By: KY http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57328 KY Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:00:12 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57328 about time to have a new Perdana about time to have a new Perdana

]]> By: outspoken http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57327 outspoken Wed, 06 Dec 2006 13:53:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57327 rilek la brother, let us wait til next year. rilek la brother, let us wait til next year.

]]> By: cyborgx http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57326 cyborgx Wed, 06 Dec 2006 13:39:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57326 extend to another 3months. typical govt management la.. produce empty bottle in the end. Only Bodoh percaya. extend to another 3months.

typical govt management la.. produce empty bottle in the end. Only Bodoh percaya.

]]> By: bugbear http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57325 bugbear Wed, 06 Dec 2006 13:26:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57325 whodz: lb is lamb berger? whodz: lb is lamb berger?

]]> By: faizulamin http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57322 faizulamin Wed, 06 Dec 2006 12:29:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57322 whodz.. so pity to hear that.. because, few month ago, i'm sooo eager to work at proton, it was. but not anymore now.. by the way.. what is lb u mentioned before? whodz.. so pity to hear that.. because, few month ago, i'm sooo eager to work at proton, it was. but not anymore now.. by the way.. what is lb u mentioned before?

]]> By: whodz http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57321 whodz Wed, 06 Dec 2006 12:18:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57321 I have some friends that working at Proton and seems that they are seriously eager to find side income. That is abviousla kan, but the odd is they are doing mlm, that is 'lb'. For those who knowsla..ok, the point is, I think Proton's staff (actually my friends work at lotus rnd) are indeed feel that their company are not secure anymore to continue pay them. wth..I pity for them (for joining lb). I have some friends that working at Proton and seems that they are seriously eager to find side income. That is abviousla kan, but the odd is they are doing mlm, that is 'lb'. For those who knowsla..ok, the point is, I think Proton's staff (actually my friends work at lotus rnd) are indeed feel that their company are not secure anymore to continue pay them. wth..I pity for them (for joining lb).

]]> By: RM http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57314 RM Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:49:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57314 Same old same old. While extending the deadlines of the MOUs, Proton seems to be adding more would be suitors. What we have now is Chery & Alado Corp, Mitsubishi, PSA-Peugeot Citroen, VW, Sime Darby, Naza, DRB-Hicom. While nothing tangible has come out one thing's for sure, Proton is definitely circling the globe. Same old same old. While extending the deadlines of the MOUs, Proton seems to be adding more would be suitors. What we have now is Chery & Alado Corp, Mitsubishi, PSA-Peugeot Citroen, VW, Sime Darby, Naza, DRB-Hicom. While nothing tangible has come out one thing's for sure, Proton is definitely circling the globe.

]]> By: Joe Ooi http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57309 Joe Ooi Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:01:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57309 Aduh, extend another 3 months, at the rate of average losing money of RM 80 Million per month. Extend another 3 month translated into further lost of RM 240 million, yet after the deadline in Feb 07, likely we won't see P1 car export to China and/or there is a Perdana Replacement Model in sight. Sigh ......... P1 bunch of management people get another 3 month fat cheque salary plus year end bonus! Tax payers money.......... Aduh, extend another 3 months, at the rate of average losing money of RM 80 Million per month. Extend another 3 month translated into further lost of RM 240 million, yet after the deadline in Feb 07, likely we won't see P1 car export to China and/or there is a Perdana Replacement Model in sight. Sigh ……… P1 bunch of management people get another 3 month fat cheque salary plus year end bonus! Tax payers money……….

]]> By: faizulamin http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57307 faizulamin Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:53:33 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57307 i think, rufaqa' corporation, if given the chance to run the proton, something different will happen.. with rufaqa' corporation, they manage to hold a revenue for RM9.8Mil in 7years. in business wise, this is good man! proton? huh, how come people with no sincereity make money?! they eat the money by themselves! rakyat merana! proton sux, government sux! i think, rufaqa' corporation, if given the chance to run the proton, something different will happen.. with rufaqa' corporation, they manage to hold a revenue for RM9.8Mil in 7years. in business wise, this is good man! proton? huh, how come people with no sincereity make money?! they eat the money by themselves! rakyat merana! proton sux, government sux!

]]> By: mycar_stolen http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57305 mycar_stolen Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:48:27 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57305 prepare for the FUNERAL clock is ticking.... I'M SINGING....FASTER LA DIE DEAR PROTON p/s say bye2 to Perdana replacement prepare for the FUNERAL

clock is ticking….

I'M SINGING….FASTER LA DIE DEAR PROTON

p/s say bye2 to Perdana replacement

]]> By: REDDEVIL http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57303 REDDEVIL Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:31:58 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57303 Ladies and Gentelmen, we are pleased to announce the '2006 Best Big Mouth' Award to.............................. PROTON............... Hopefully there is something concrete will prevail after that extension time. Ladies and Gentelmen, we are pleased to announce the '2006 Best Big Mouth' Award to…………………………

PROTON……………

Hopefully there is something concrete will prevail after that extension time.

]]> By: raybrig85 http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57299 raybrig85 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:07:14 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57299 wuteverla proton... wuteverla proton…

]]> By: kendo http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57296 kendo Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:59:14 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57296 still TIDUH, proton! still TIDUH, proton!

]]> By: Cire http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57293 Cire Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:00:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57293 Most unlikely for P1 to export cars to China. The markets there is already full of cars of various makes and models,plus all the cars are as update versions as Paul could put in this website. We have nothing much to offer except for the infrastructures, and vast local networks of dealers. Other than this, I do not think China offers any less of bolihland. IMHO, Chinese car makers are still very dependant on foreign technologies. Most of their products are clones and improvements of existing products. If P1 were to merge with one, it will find itself continuing to clone designs and technologies from the west or the east. There will come a time where ideas will run out and outright cloning will take place. Not unless the main reason is to create job and irregardless of the state of technologies we will get, then merge by all means. If our main aim is to quest for technology know-how, please then revive talk with VW or even PSA. Don't make a rash decision. Look for future development and not short term gain for popularity or votes. my take. Most unlikely for P1 to export cars to China. The markets there is already full of cars of various makes and models,plus all the cars are as update versions as Paul could put in this website.

We have nothing much to offer except for the infrastructures, and vast local networks of dealers. Other than this, I do not think China offers any less of bolihland.

IMHO, Chinese car makers are still very dependant on foreign technologies. Most of their products are clones and improvements of existing products. If P1 were to merge with one, it will find itself continuing to clone designs and technologies from the west or the east.

There will come a time where ideas will run out and outright cloning will take place. Not unless the main reason is to create job and irregardless of the state of technologies we will get, then merge by all means.

If our main aim is to quest for technology know-how, please then revive talk with VW or even PSA.

Don't make a rash decision. Look for future development and not short term gain for popularity or votes.

my take.

]]> By: Joe Ooi http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57284 Joe Ooi Wed, 06 Dec 2006 01:18:24 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57284 Exercise another EOT - Extension OF Time. Better sign the MOU & FS with no deadline - Time At Large. Whatever extension for sure these 3 months thingy won't produce any results in new model(s) and/or export of P1 car to China, and definitely won't help in shoring up sagging share price. Exercise another EOT – Extension OF Time. Better sign the MOU & FS with no deadline – Time At Large.

Whatever extension for sure these 3 months thingy won't produce any results in new model(s) and/or export of P1 car to China, and definitely won't help in shoring up sagging share price.

]]> By: sloth http://paultan.org/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57283 sloth Wed, 06 Dec 2006 01:14:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/12/06/proton-extends-agreements/#comment-57283 Waiting... Waiting…

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