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	<title>Comments on: Unidentified car on test</title>
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	<description>Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry</description>
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		<title>By: brusli</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-59039</link>
		<dc:creator>brusli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 15:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw this car on the way to Ipoh about 3 weeks ago. Its a big car, about the same size as Citroen C5.

Could it be a Waja hatch? But Waja is smaller....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw this car on the way to Ipoh about 3 weeks ago. Its a big car, about the same size as Citroen C5.</p>
<p>Could it be a Waja hatch? But Waja is smaller&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: sureshn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58872</link>
		<dc:creator>sureshn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>saw this car, all covered up, going up to genting, via batang kali road today. there were two of them. i was on the opposite road, wanted to turn around and chase for photos, but then i realised i was in my 1969 car .... cannot chase!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saw this car, all covered up, going up to genting, via batang kali road today. there were two of them. i was on the opposite road, wanted to turn around and chase for photos, but then i realised i was in my 1969 car &#8230;. cannot chase!</p>
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		<title>By: protonGL</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58812</link>
		<dc:creator>protonGL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 10:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>probally nissan badged on laguna iii</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>probally nissan badged on laguna iii</p>
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		<title>By: protonGL</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58811</link>
		<dc:creator>protonGL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 10:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well if it nissan, it is possible, because nowadays nissan do revamp some of the renaults with nissan brand, 
good possibility,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well if it nissan, it is possible, because nowadays nissan do revamp some of the renaults with nissan brand,<br />
good possibility,</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Ooi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58777</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Ooi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>protonGL, the wiper might be decoy as well to confuse the &quot;paparazzi&quot;. 

My guess is still Nissan car as &quot;market talk&quot; mentioned there is Cefiro replacement and another new model for economy entry level sub-compact car that will compete with Vios and City.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>protonGL, the wiper might be decoy as well to confuse the &#8220;paparazzi&#8221;. </p>
<p>My guess is still Nissan car as &#8220;market talk&#8221; mentioned there is Cefiro replacement and another new model for economy entry level sub-compact car that will compete with Vios and City.</p>
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		<title>By: ck1</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58748</link>
		<dc:creator>ck1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 15:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I spotted the similar car today along Jusco area in Kepong heading towards the LDP Damansara. I noticed that the model had two exhaust pipes next split like what you see in the picture above</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I spotted the similar car today along Jusco area in Kepong heading towards the LDP Damansara. I noticed that the model had two exhaust pipes next split like what you see in the picture above</p>
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		<title>By: protonGL</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58720</link>
		<dc:creator>protonGL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 07:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sory la too much into this guess guess, well sylphy rear light position is lower and the reg plate is on the rear boot not on the bumper, and the whole silhoutte of sylphy although a bit fastback ,its more toward normal sedan, wiper ,,sylphy dont have one,

so again not yet nissan,
aiyaa whats aaa,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sory la too much into this guess guess, well sylphy rear light position is lower and the reg plate is on the rear boot not on the bumper, and the whole silhoutte of sylphy although a bit fastback ,its more toward normal sedan, wiper ,,sylphy dont have one,</p>
<p>so again not yet nissan,<br />
aiyaa whats aaa,</p>
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		<title>By: Tracks</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58707</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 02:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I am not mistaken, it&#039;s a Nissan Sylphy. However, it&#039;s supposed to be a Cefiro replacement instead of a Sentra replacement. Let&#039;s wait and see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I am not mistaken, it&#8217;s a Nissan Sylphy. However, it&#8217;s supposed to be a Cefiro replacement instead of a Sentra replacement. Let&#8217;s wait and see.</p>
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		<title>By: protonGL</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58700</link>
		<dc:creator>protonGL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 00:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well topgun, the tiida is less fastback look, and it dont have rear wiper on its 5th door,
and the uncovered front part of the disguised car is not simmilar, 

so tiida is unlikely,

07 maxima of course not,right joe because its got radically slunting rear end with higher bumper line, got no wiper as well, front uncover part doesnt match,

so i guess, nissan has&#039;nt fit in this guessing game so far ,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well topgun, the tiida is less fastback look, and it dont have rear wiper on its 5th door,<br />
and the uncovered front part of the disguised car is not simmilar, </p>
<p>so tiida is unlikely,</p>
<p>07 maxima of course not,right joe because its got radically slunting rear end with higher bumper line, got no wiper as well, front uncover part doesnt match,</p>
<p>so i guess, nissan has&#8217;nt fit in this guessing game so far ,</p>
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		<title>By: topgunthang</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58695</link>
		<dc:creator>topgunthang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2006 19:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if its a nissan, then my guess is its a tiida. coz it sells so bad around the world they had to dump excess stock in malaysia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if its a nissan, then my guess is its a tiida. coz it sells so bad around the world they had to dump excess stock in malaysia.</p>
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		<title>By: MyBoy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58631</link>
		<dc:creator>MyBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2006 04:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Ooi,

ETCM will surely at some point introduce Maxima but i can assure u that the car in the pic is NOT Maxima.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Ooi,</p>
<p>ETCM will surely at some point introduce Maxima but i can assure u that the car in the pic is NOT Maxima.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Ooi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58630</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Ooi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2006 03:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess is Cefiro replacement = Maxima, log on: -

http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/overview.aspx?year=2007&amp;make=Nissan&amp;model=Maxima

Not likely they will introduce Renault model since conti car receive lukewarm response from our auto market. Also, &quot;market talk&quot; indicated ETCM will introduce aging Cefiro replacement!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is Cefiro replacement = Maxima, log on: -</p>
<p><a href="http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/overview.aspx?year=2007&amp;make=Nissan&amp;model=Maxima" rel="nofollow">http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/overview.aspx?year=2007&amp;make=Nissan&amp;model=Maxima</a></p>
<p>Not likely they will introduce Renault model since conti car receive lukewarm response from our auto market. Also, &#8220;market talk&#8221; indicated ETCM will introduce aging Cefiro replacement!</p>
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		<title>By: MyBoy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58621</link>
		<dc:creator>MyBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 18:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>luke74,

From my imperfect observation, it is a transparent cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>luke74,</p>
<p>From my imperfect observation, it is a transparent cover.</p>
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		<title>By: MyBoy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58620</link>
		<dc:creator>MyBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 18:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V_Satrian,

As u can see. Nissan Tiida = Latio (Sport) rear wiper is totaly different in design and placing. 

Nissan Teana = Maxima = Cefiro....The same car with different name for different market.....For Nissan Sylphy = Bluebird (or a combination of those names).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V_Satrian,</p>
<p>As u can see. Nissan Tiida = Latio (Sport) rear wiper is totaly different in design and placing. </p>
<p>Nissan Teana = Maxima = Cefiro&#8230;.The same car with different name for different market&#8230;..For Nissan Sylphy = Bluebird (or a combination of those names).</p>
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		<title>By: protonGL</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58577</link>
		<dc:creator>protonGL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well luke it a bit transparent , unless people cant react to the brake or turning light,

by the way, 
fot the gen 2 sibling to be, its not, ,,just look at the front wheel lower arch where usually the placement of mud flap, this look almost look like a subtle side skirt which gen 2 dont have, 

prem should have overtook that car aaaaa, story more laa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well luke it a bit transparent , unless people cant react to the brake or turning light,</p>
<p>by the way,<br />
fot the gen 2 sibling to be, its not, ,,just look at the front wheel lower arch where usually the placement of mud flap, this look almost look like a subtle side skirt which gen 2 dont have, </p>
<p>prem should have overtook that car aaaaa, story more laa.</p>
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		<title>By: luke74</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58576</link>
		<dc:creator>luke74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MyBoy, 

already checked and double checked. Thats not a transparent cover..as u will notice that there is a gap inbetween.. and because the car is moving, wind is sorta lifting that cover up.. and u can see the difference.. try looking properly..  u will notice that its not a trasparent cover.. as u can see the lights under it..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MyBoy, </p>
<p>already checked and double checked. Thats not a transparent cover..as u will notice that there is a gap inbetween.. and because the car is moving, wind is sorta lifting that cover up.. and u can see the difference.. try looking properly..  u will notice that its not a trasparent cover.. as u can see the lights under it..</p>
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		<title>By: V_Satrian</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58573</link>
		<dc:creator>V_Satrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 03:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiii....

Im new to this blog even thought im visiting this blog for a couple of years and it is my daily routine to jump in this site every morning....ok guys please welcome my self to join u all.......and thanks to Paul for this great blog......

ok guys regarding the unidentified car on test is actually Nissan Latio according to one of my frein from ETCM . For ur info they will lounch 4 models next year . Confirm models are Lation , Teana , sylphy . Sentra they are going to phased out. 

Take care and bye.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiii&#8230;.</p>
<p>Im new to this blog even thought im visiting this blog for a couple of years and it is my daily routine to jump in this site every morning&#8230;.ok guys please welcome my self to join u all&#8230;&#8230;.and thanks to Paul for this great blog&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>ok guys regarding the unidentified car on test is actually Nissan Latio according to one of my frein from ETCM . For ur info they will lounch 4 models next year . Confirm models are Lation , Teana , sylphy . Sentra they are going to phased out. </p>
<p>Take care and bye&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: tanasi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58570</link>
		<dc:creator>tanasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I looked at the picture.  I see a Proton Savvy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked at the picture.  I see a Proton Savvy.</p>
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		<title>By: MyBoy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58565</link>
		<dc:creator>MyBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 21:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>luke74,

Its a transparent coat to let driver from behind see the brake light and signal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>luke74,</p>
<p>Its a transparent coat to let driver from behind see the brake light and signal.</p>
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		<title>By: luke74</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58563</link>
		<dc:creator>luke74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey just did a Zoom on the photo.. that is not the rear lights. If u noticed.. the &quot;rear lights&quot; are just part of the black cloth..  try zooming into it.. seriouslly its not it.   

So to be honest, thats not a Laguna III ( 100% certain ).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey just did a Zoom on the photo.. that is not the rear lights. If u noticed.. the &#8220;rear lights&#8221; are just part of the black cloth..  try zooming into it.. seriouslly its not it.   </p>
<p>So to be honest, thats not a Laguna III ( 100% certain ).</p>
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		<title>By: luke74</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58562</link>
		<dc:creator>luke74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with Jared323f.. 

Would a CBU car be running their cars here espcially for testing on malaysian roads. Not possible. 

Which only leaves out a Proton, or a rebadge-ing of Naza&#039;s. Unless Perodua has something up their sleeves.. hmmmm.. 

Well this anxiety is killing us..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with Jared323f.. </p>
<p>Would a CBU car be running their cars here espcially for testing on malaysian roads. Not possible. </p>
<p>Which only leaves out a Proton, or a rebadge-ing of Naza&#8217;s. Unless Perodua has something up their sleeves.. hmmmm.. </p>
<p>Well this anxiety is killing us..</p>
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		<title>By: SatriaGuy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58559</link>
		<dc:creator>SatriaGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not put a bet of RM5 and lets see what make is it in the end... I see an opportunity to make money!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not put a bet of RM5 and lets see what make is it in the end&#8230; I see an opportunity to make money!</p>
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		<title>By: ali38hak</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58557</link>
		<dc:creator>ali38hak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rear lights look the same as citroen c5, but the rear is shorter than it..??
i hope its a new proton...but it were better a wagon than a hatchback..for we in europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rear lights look the same as citroen c5, but the rear is shorter than it..??<br />
i hope its a new proton&#8230;but it were better a wagon than a hatchback..for we in europe.</p>
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		<title>By: jared323f</title>
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		<dc:creator>jared323f</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello my friends.

A logical question would be..... would foreign carmakers do testings here in Malayisa... a distant possibility right?  So it must be the P2 or P1 or Naza hiding something up their sleeve...

Looks kinda nice though..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello my friends.</p>
<p>A logical question would be&#8230;.. would foreign carmakers do testings here in Malayisa&#8230; a distant possibility right?  So it must be the P2 or P1 or Naza hiding something up their sleeve&#8230;</p>
<p>Looks kinda nice though..</p>
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		<title>By: KARL</title>
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		<dc:creator>KARL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 04:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I guess it must be Tiida/Latio/Versa whatever you may call it in our market. Why? Because ETCM never been dare enough to bet with newest NISSAN offerings in other market, for instance when market almost got newest Navara/Frontier pickup we just happy with outgoing model (we and ASEAN: maybe Nissan regard we inferior than other markets). Also prevail in other case i.e Nissan Serena just facelift, Cefiro twice facelift when others got newest version more than 2 years already, need to say more? X-trail already made debut in 2001 we got in very late 2003.

BTW Tiida can compete with the likes of Vios or City. I reall go for it if compared to other two Japs. Previously we never offered sub-Corolla alternative even though US also got Soluna/VIOS for few generations. BUT in Malaysia also long as people saw Toyota emblem they&#039;ll buy it. For me Hilux for instance can&#039;t match Hilux-based pickup (TACOMA in US) thats&#039;why US market get no Hilux from Thailand. 

Sylphy can win some new buyers as it look more mature and according to www.globalautoindex.com Tiida with HR15DE CVT 80kW/148Nm will give 5.5L every 100km. New Toyota Axio 1.5 81/140Nm (new ALtis will based on this model but with very front end &#039;nose-job&#039;) consumed same 5.5L and Civic 1.8 103kW/174Nm used little more, 5.9L. Not bad. Our very own Gen2 1.6A 82kW/148Nm 7.2L. FYI in Japan they don&#039;t have oild field like us, so their car little efficient in fuel consumption.

I don&#039;t think ETCM&#039;s guy want to compete with Honda or Toyota, as always history will rewrite unprecedent history on ETCM business practice. 

ETCM is worst than Proton is some aspect, toooo careful to introduce newer and current model.Perhaps Nissan/Renault Alliance should give &#039;em a lesson. Otherwise they&#039;ll slow and steady. They can sell sentra due to good trade in customer entitled when trade their car for a Nissan but later will customer&#039;s car lower resale value. Menang membeli tewas menjual balik.

My two cent to ETCM:

1: Don&#039;t bring Teana (2003 model) to replace aged Cefiro, simply give way to new Skyline 2.5. Nissan&#039;s image will boost among younder motorist.
2: Livina Geniss (Nov 2006 model) maybe can give fresh advantage to ETCM if customer pick ut over Toyota Innova.
3: Tiida (2004) can give customer choice instaed of City or Vios if pricing is RIGHT.
4.  Sylphy G11 (2005) can beat current Altis again if price and trade in value in right.
5. Dualis/Qashqai is good especially diesel  1.5dCI or 2.0dCi. I don&#039;t think they&#039;ll bring the new Nissan jewel. Baby MURANO.
6. Even though Murano already over two years it still OK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I guess it must be Tiida/Latio/Versa whatever you may call it in our market. Why? Because ETCM never been dare enough to bet with newest NISSAN offerings in other market, for instance when market almost got newest Navara/Frontier pickup we just happy with outgoing model (we and ASEAN: maybe Nissan regard we inferior than other markets). Also prevail in other case i.e Nissan Serena just facelift, Cefiro twice facelift when others got newest version more than 2 years already, need to say more? X-trail already made debut in 2001 we got in very late 2003.</p>
<p>BTW Tiida can compete with the likes of Vios or City. I reall go for it if compared to other two Japs. Previously we never offered sub-Corolla alternative even though US also got Soluna/VIOS for few generations. BUT in Malaysia also long as people saw Toyota emblem they&#8217;ll buy it. For me Hilux for instance can&#8217;t match Hilux-based pickup (TACOMA in US) thats&#8217;why US market get no Hilux from Thailand. </p>
<p>Sylphy can win some new buyers as it look more mature and according to <a href="http://www.globalautoindex.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.globalautoindex.com</a> Tiida with HR15DE CVT 80kW/148Nm will give 5.5L every 100km. New Toyota Axio 1.5 81/140Nm (new ALtis will based on this model but with very front end &#8216;nose-job&#8217;) consumed same 5.5L and Civic 1.8 103kW/174Nm used little more, 5.9L. Not bad. Our very own Gen2 1.6A 82kW/148Nm 7.2L. FYI in Japan they don&#8217;t have oild field like us, so their car little efficient in fuel consumption.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think ETCM&#8217;s guy want to compete with Honda or Toyota, as always history will rewrite unprecedent history on ETCM business practice. </p>
<p>ETCM is worst than Proton is some aspect, toooo careful to introduce newer and current model.Perhaps Nissan/Renault Alliance should give &#8216;em a lesson. Otherwise they&#8217;ll slow and steady. They can sell sentra due to good trade in customer entitled when trade their car for a Nissan but later will customer&#8217;s car lower resale value. Menang membeli tewas menjual balik.</p>
<p>My two cent to ETCM:</p>
<p>1: Don&#8217;t bring Teana (2003 model) to replace aged Cefiro, simply give way to new Skyline 2.5. Nissan&#8217;s image will boost among younder motorist.<br />
2: Livina Geniss (Nov 2006 model) maybe can give fresh advantage to ETCM if customer pick ut over Toyota Innova.<br />
3: Tiida (2004) can give customer choice instaed of City or Vios if pricing is RIGHT.<br />
4.  Sylphy G11 (2005) can beat current Altis again if price and trade in value in right.<br />
5. Dualis/Qashqai is good especially diesel  1.5dCI or 2.0dCi. I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;ll bring the new Nissan jewel. Baby MURANO.<br />
6. Even though Murano already over two years it still OK.</p>
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		<title>By: dzat46</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58542</link>
		<dc:creator>dzat46</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 04:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess will be the Nissan Latio....seen quite a few already driven by singaporean. Look nice &amp; quite similar to Honda City (especially its wing mirror). Nissan will need to keep the price compareable to City/Vios to sell here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess will be the Nissan Latio&#8230;.seen quite a few already driven by singaporean. Look nice &amp; quite similar to Honda City (especially its wing mirror). Nissan will need to keep the price compareable to City/Vios to sell here.</p>
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		<title>By: transformer</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58539</link>
		<dc:creator>transformer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 03:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ETCM, pls bring in more &quot;Niss&quot; car...

Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ETCM, pls bring in more &#8220;Niss&#8221; car&#8230;</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: transformer</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58538</link>
		<dc:creator>transformer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH... based on mr42 peeks... its look like a &quot;Renaults&quot;, waste my time only...

Last weekend, i been to Singapore... a rainny day....considered heavy rain...
saw 2 R cars broken down with their double hazard-signal blinking...
one on highway(on left side) a CLIO(Silver) and the other in front of the traffic light a MEGANE(Light Blue)... sad to say its the first car in front... both are still very new i think, based on the appearance...

* looklike rainny days is bad for R cars...(IMHO)
* i heard from few fren accrossed our border commented that &quot;they&quot; won&#039;t buy any &quot;R&quot; cars after &quot;they&quot; had owned one before.... i think ME too... i prefer the Cit/Pugs...   no thanks for &quot;F&quot; cars too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH&#8230; based on mr42 peeks&#8230; its look like a &#8220;Renaults&#8221;, waste my time only&#8230;</p>
<p>Last weekend, i been to Singapore&#8230; a rainny day&#8230;.considered heavy rain&#8230;<br />
saw 2 R cars broken down with their double hazard-signal blinking&#8230;<br />
one on highway(on left side) a CLIO(Silver) and the other in front of the traffic light a MEGANE(Light Blue)&#8230; sad to say its the first car in front&#8230; both are still very new i think, based on the appearance&#8230;</p>
<p>* looklike rainny days is bad for R cars&#8230;(IMHO)<br />
* i heard from few fren accrossed our border commented that &#8220;they&#8221; won&#8217;t buy any &#8220;R&#8221; cars after &#8220;they&#8221; had owned one before&#8230;. i think ME too&#8230; i prefer the Cit/Pugs&#8230;   no thanks for &#8220;F&#8221; cars too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mr42</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58535</link>
		<dc:creator>mr42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi...


I saw the car myself last week in Teluk Chempedak, Kuantan....I managed to take a peek of the car, and even touch it...NIce big car, and even come complete with twin sunroofs (or roof mirror????)

The car was covered completely, except for it&#039;s mirror, headlights and rear lights, and its twin sunroofs....even the labels of the car on the windows were taped and could not be seen...

But from the front, the covered front hood had marking labels that looks really like  Renault emblems....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi&#8230;</p>
<p>I saw the car myself last week in Teluk Chempedak, Kuantan&#8230;.I managed to take a peek of the car, and even touch it&#8230;NIce big car, and even come complete with twin sunroofs (or roof mirror????)</p>
<p>The car was covered completely, except for it&#8217;s mirror, headlights and rear lights, and its twin sunroofs&#8230;.even the labels of the car on the windows were taped and could not be seen&#8230;</p>
<p>But from the front, the covered front hood had marking labels that looks really like  Renault emblems&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: lowprofile</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/20/unidentified-car-on-test/#comment-58532</link>
		<dc:creator>lowprofile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 01:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s talk that Proton will be launching 3 new models/facelifts next year. The Gen-2 sedan, Waja Aeroback and of course the now-that-everybody knows, Savvy facelift. But from close examination (I did save and enlarge the picture) as freeze recommended, it does really look like the Laguna III. Also when doing tests, manufacturers will deliberately use other brand&#039;s rims to confuse the public like us. They also use other brands badging in some cases. 

I really hope that it is the Laguna III as Malaysia is definitely a bad place for European cars with most of the public opting for Japanese cars. At least it shows that the French still have some faith in our Japanese dominated market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s talk that Proton will be launching 3 new models/facelifts next year. The Gen-2 sedan, Waja Aeroback and of course the now-that-everybody knows, Savvy facelift. But from close examination (I did save and enlarge the picture) as freeze recommended, it does really look like the Laguna III. Also when doing tests, manufacturers will deliberately use other brand&#8217;s rims to confuse the public like us. They also use other brands badging in some cases. </p>
<p>I really hope that it is the Laguna III as Malaysia is definitely a bad place for European cars with most of the public opting for Japanese cars. At least it shows that the French still have some faith in our Japanese dominated market.</p>
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