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	<title>Comments on: Chery recalls 1,875 Chery T11 Tiggo SUVs</title>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/26/chery-recalls-1875-chery-t11-tiggo-suvs/#comment-248416</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am seriouslty considering buying a Tiggo, thus forum such this helps me is determining my decision. Therefore , my forum pals , do you think this chery tiggo will be value for money.I am not one of those guys who rely on majority perception about chinese made cars. If china can send their citizen ,to space what so great about making cars escpecially with their new Acteco Engines.

Any Comment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am seriouslty considering buying a Tiggo, thus forum such this helps me is determining my decision. Therefore , my forum pals , do you think this chery tiggo will be value for money.I am not one of those guys who rely on majority perception about chinese made cars. If china can send their citizen ,to space what so great about making cars escpecially with their new Acteco Engines.</p>
<p>Any Comment?</p>
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		<title>By: topgunthang</title>
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		<dc:creator>topgunthang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 02:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just coz they made one recall doesnt mean anything. labour so cheap they profit like mad selling these cheap cars. yes....made in china. so avoid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just coz they made one recall doesnt mean anything. labour so cheap they profit like mad selling these cheap cars. yes&#8230;.made in china. so avoid.</p>
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		<title>By: honda_driver</title>
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		<dc:creator>honda_driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proton did make announcements in the past to recall, or &#039;silent recall&#039; or whatever you want to call it, and yes, they were pretty much condemned for it, especially so in the forums and blogs.  so yes, i dont think i&#039;m making a comment without justification.. its history, i didn&#039;t make it up. 

so what exactly is your point? What has proton parts failing under mininum quality standards got to do with recalling a vehicle?  

besides, i still dont think any manufacturer will &quot;recall&quot; a car for a non-life threatening issues.. thats supposed to be taken care of by the warranty system, which in proton&#039;s case, doesn&#039;t mean anything, because a defective power window is replaced under warranty by yet another power window. If they did recall a car for a Massively high incident of power window failure, the above will still happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proton did make announcements in the past to recall, or &#8217;silent recall&#8217; or whatever you want to call it, and yes, they were pretty much condemned for it, especially so in the forums and blogs.  so yes, i dont think i&#8217;m making a comment without justification.. its history, i didn&#8217;t make it up. </p>
<p>so what exactly is your point? What has proton parts failing under mininum quality standards got to do with recalling a vehicle?  </p>
<p>besides, i still dont think any manufacturer will &#8220;recall&#8221; a car for a non-life threatening issues.. thats supposed to be taken care of by the warranty system, which in proton&#8217;s case, doesn&#8217;t mean anything, because a defective power window is replaced under warranty by yet another power window. If they did recall a car for a Massively high incident of power window failure, the above will still happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Ooi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/26/chery-recalls-1875-chery-t11-tiggo-suvs/#comment-58776</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Ooi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>transformer, you are right and give a fair comment on P1. 

But to honda_driver, you argue on what you termed in your previous comment under &quot;siaran tergendala&quot; thread as &quot;thin air&quot; as in the event P1 recall to fix any faulty parts/components, no one in a sound mind will &quot;condemn&quot; P1. Your last statement look like make a comment without justification. 

If P1 anounce in the public or through mass media to recall all P1 car to fix faulty window power, I am the first to praise this effort and will try to be te first as well to fix my faulty Waja power window. 

When mentioned about warranty (normally apply to &quot;minor component&quot;) or guarantee (normally apply to &quot;major component&quot;), this principle apply is to gain customer confident and to show to the market that they committed to high quality products. In any manufacturing process for any products, there must be &quot;failure&quot; component that may defined under &quot;normal distribution @ 95 +- 5%&quot;, part per million (PPM) or the like that bespoke in statistician/engineering/management science principle. Warranty or guarantee is to address these &quot;exceptional but negligible failures&quot; that in any manufacturing process, practically there are no 100% success rate in production. 

In P1 case, the rate of failure for their certain component like door handle, power window, absorber, etc is NOT fall under stringent quality control as above-mentioned but fall under minimum quality as normally practice in auto industy! Therefore, these components normally function within warranty period (i.e. 1 year) rather than design to highest quality with maximum life span (e.g. absorber or power window can be easily last more than 5 years).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>transformer, you are right and give a fair comment on P1. </p>
<p>But to honda_driver, you argue on what you termed in your previous comment under &#8220;siaran tergendala&#8221; thread as &#8220;thin air&#8221; as in the event P1 recall to fix any faulty parts/components, no one in a sound mind will &#8220;condemn&#8221; P1. Your last statement look like make a comment without justification. </p>
<p>If P1 anounce in the public or through mass media to recall all P1 car to fix faulty window power, I am the first to praise this effort and will try to be te first as well to fix my faulty Waja power window. </p>
<p>When mentioned about warranty (normally apply to &#8220;minor component&#8221;) or guarantee (normally apply to &#8220;major component&#8221;), this principle apply is to gain customer confident and to show to the market that they committed to high quality products. In any manufacturing process for any products, there must be &#8220;failure&#8221; component that may defined under &#8220;normal distribution @ 95 +- 5%&#8221;, part per million (PPM) or the like that bespoke in statistician/engineering/management science principle. Warranty or guarantee is to address these &#8220;exceptional but negligible failures&#8221; that in any manufacturing process, practically there are no 100% success rate in production. </p>
<p>In P1 case, the rate of failure for their certain component like door handle, power window, absorber, etc is NOT fall under stringent quality control as above-mentioned but fall under minimum quality as normally practice in auto industy! Therefore, these components normally function within warranty period (i.e. 1 year) rather than design to highest quality with maximum life span (e.g. absorber or power window can be easily last more than 5 years).</p>
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		<title>By: honda_driver</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/12/26/chery-recalls-1875-chery-t11-tiggo-suvs/#comment-58771</link>
		<dc:creator>honda_driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 14:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think most, if not all car manufacturers will never do a recall for a defect that is not &quot;life threatening&quot; or cause the car to fail mechanically.  

those items mentioned, like power windows, door handles, gearbox..etc..  are usually problems solved by warranty claims..etc. (which of course was handled badly in proton&#039;s case)

but of course, when proton does a recall, its condemned, but when another manufacturer does it, its &quot;responsible&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think most, if not all car manufacturers will never do a recall for a defect that is not &#8220;life threatening&#8221; or cause the car to fail mechanically.  </p>
<p>those items mentioned, like power windows, door handles, gearbox..etc..  are usually problems solved by warranty claims..etc. (which of course was handled badly in proton&#8217;s case)</p>
<p>but of course, when proton does a recall, its condemned, but when another manufacturer does it, its &#8220;responsible&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: szw</title>
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		<dc:creator>szw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 13:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dis is call made in china .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dis is call made in china .</p>
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		<title>By: transformer</title>
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		<dc:creator>transformer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 09:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So i will buy a Chery instead of the &quot;stone head&quot; P1....
Never realize their mistake...    Never acknowledge...
Never admit...    Never recall...    Never!

i think P1 did done some sort of &quot;soft recall&quot; before, on WAJA brakes/handbrake issues when its initial launched and also the recent SportRims issue(certain lot no. have problem).... they just said, they will check when owner send back to do service... P1 advert a notice and also post mail to notify owners about it...

BUT for Power Window issues NEVER!!! Fragile Door Handle NEVER!!!  &amp; etc...
BUT for PERDANA Gear Box issue NEVER!!!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So i will buy a Chery instead of the &#8220;stone head&#8221; P1&#8230;.<br />
Never realize their mistake&#8230;    Never acknowledge&#8230;<br />
Never admit&#8230;    Never recall&#8230;    Never!</p>
<p>i think P1 did done some sort of &#8220;soft recall&#8221; before, on WAJA brakes/handbrake issues when its initial launched and also the recent SportRims issue(certain lot no. have problem)&#8230;. they just said, they will check when owner send back to do service&#8230; P1 advert a notice and also post mail to notify owners about it&#8230;</p>
<p>BUT for Power Window issues NEVER!!! Fragile Door Handle NEVER!!!  &amp; etc&#8230;<br />
BUT for PERDANA Gear Box issue NEVER!!!</p>
<p>What else ?</p>
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		<title>By: REDDEVIL</title>
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		<dc:creator>REDDEVIL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 01:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a responsible car manufacturer. At least they know what has gone wrong and willing to replace the faulty parts. Not like our &#039;Proton&#039; national car, keep ignoring their customer complaint and unwilling to replace to faulty parts. shame......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a responsible car manufacturer. At least they know what has gone wrong and willing to replace the faulty parts. Not like our &#8216;Proton&#8217; national car, keep ignoring their customer complaint and unwilling to replace to faulty parts. shame&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: w_lighter</title>
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		<dc:creator>w_lighter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 14:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least they didnt wait for years and thousand of outcry like the Perdana gearbox problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least they didnt wait for years and thousand of outcry like the Perdana gearbox problem.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan_foong80</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryan_foong80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 14:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another phototstat machine!!..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another phototstat machine!!..</p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
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		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 12:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good job and will still slightly dent the image. But Lexus too has callbacks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good job and will still slightly dent the image. But Lexus too has callbacks</p>
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		<title>By: albagmane</title>
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		<dc:creator>albagmane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 11:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;good&#039; job and good job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;good&#8217; job and good job!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey1977</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey1977</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 10:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Responsible manufacturer....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Responsible manufacturer&#8230;.</p>
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