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	<title>Comments on: Toyota Belta on test in Thailand as Toyota VIOS!</title>
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	<description>Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry</description>
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		<title>By: oyl78</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/01/19/toyota-belta-on-test-in-thailand-as-toyota-vios/#comment-74234</link>
		<dc:creator>oyl78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New VIOS launched in Thailand on 9 March 2007...

http://www.toyota.co.th/red/th/model/vios/vios_home.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New VIOS launched in Thailand on 9 March 2007&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.toyota.co.th/red/th/model/vios/vios_home.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.toyota.co.th/red/th/model/vios/vios_home.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: belta-owner</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/01/19/toyota-belta-on-test-in-thailand-as-toyota-vios/#comment-73878</link>
		<dc:creator>belta-owner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi anyone know where can i get  belta bodykit??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi anyone know where can i get  belta bodykit??</p>
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		<title>By: topgunthang</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/01/19/toyota-belta-on-test-in-thailand-as-toyota-vios/#comment-61548</link>
		<dc:creator>topgunthang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seen the car badged as a toyota yaris sedan. it looks alright when seen among modern cars. at least the &#039;Z&#039; version or something...the one with the sportskit. 

lets not forget this car is the lowest/cheapest model of toyota. where the trend is now to give small budget cars the bigger space and safer occupant/pedestrian protection and the yaris has achieved alot in that market segment despite being a budget car. its almost as big as a corolla. 

lotsa asian buyers so i think u can get a short consumer review easily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seen the car badged as a toyota yaris sedan. it looks alright when seen among modern cars. at least the &#8216;Z&#8217; version or something&#8230;the one with the sportskit. </p>
<p>lets not forget this car is the lowest/cheapest model of toyota. where the trend is now to give small budget cars the bigger space and safer occupant/pedestrian protection and the yaris has achieved alot in that market segment despite being a budget car. its almost as big as a corolla. </p>
<p>lotsa asian buyers so i think u can get a short consumer review easily.</p>
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		<title>By: hameed koyakuti</title>
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		<dc:creator>hameed koyakuti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys!!!! Cmon!!! Get real!!!!

What a damn fugly car........!!!! Since its a Toyota, nobody dares to say its ugly......Blah laaaa, i dont trust the opinions given here since most of the forumers here are Toyota biased contributors...........

hehehe, shame on u....!!!!

&quot; The uglier, the better.....&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys!!!! Cmon!!! Get real!!!!</p>
<p>What a damn fugly car&#8230;&#8230;..!!!! Since its a Toyota, nobody dares to say its ugly&#8230;&#8230;Blah laaaa, i dont trust the opinions given here since most of the forumers here are Toyota biased contributors&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>hehehe, shame on u&#8230;.!!!!</p>
<p>&#8221; The uglier, the better&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: firdaus72</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/01/19/toyota-belta-on-test-in-thailand-as-toyota-vios/#comment-61389</link>
		<dc:creator>firdaus72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put a Toyota badge, although it looks like the ever ugly face lifted Waja, it will sell. Trust me..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put a Toyota badge, although it looks like the ever ugly face lifted Waja, it will sell. Trust me..</p>
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		<title>By: GlowJo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/01/19/toyota-belta-on-test-in-thailand-as-toyota-vios/#comment-61340</link>
		<dc:creator>GlowJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Htay9500... of course Toyota have to hide their tail light, because they copied waja tail light design. If you see the yaris aircond button/switch is same as Gen.2 or Lotus Elise aircond button/switch. 
Nowadays there is no genuine designer anymore except for Italian made and higher end car manufacturer. 

Aston Martin anyone??? going cheap once!!! going cheap twice!!! OK sold to the BASHERSSSSS!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Htay9500&#8230; of course Toyota have to hide their tail light, because they copied waja tail light design. If you see the yaris aircond button/switch is same as Gen.2 or Lotus Elise aircond button/switch.<br />
Nowadays there is no genuine designer anymore except for Italian made and higher end car manufacturer. </p>
<p>Aston Martin anyone??? going cheap once!!! going cheap twice!!! OK sold to the BASHERSSSSS!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: indigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>indigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 06:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget about 1.3L, malaysia will not have that. People should stop speculating that it will be below 80k. This is not Kijang or Avanza and most likely will be over 80k and comes with Auto only. People were expecting something that can&#039;t be acctually fulfilled. We have p1 and p2...hopeless la.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget about 1.3L, malaysia will not have that. People should stop speculating that it will be below 80k. This is not Kijang or Avanza and most likely will be over 80k and comes with Auto only. People were expecting something that can&#8217;t be acctually fulfilled. We have p1 and p2&#8230;hopeless la.</p>
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		<title>By: Htay9500</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/01/19/toyota-belta-on-test-in-thailand-as-toyota-vios/#comment-61237</link>
		<dc:creator>Htay9500</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 21:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looks totally diff with tht red tape on tail lite. will Myanmar receive this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks totally diff with tht red tape on tail lite. will Myanmar receive this</p>
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		<title>By: vai</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/01/19/toyota-belta-on-test-in-thailand-as-toyota-vios/#comment-61187</link>
		<dc:creator>vai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bigger. Better. Longer. Q3 07.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bigger. Better. Longer. Q3 07.  <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/01/19/toyota-belta-on-test-in-thailand-as-toyota-vios/#comment-61181</link>
		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>avanza grille anyone. Looks exactly like the current vios except for the different rear lights and front end. Other things which I can imagine &quot;different&quot; are:
1. new interior design
2. slightly better output.
3. slightly increase space-wider wheel base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>avanza grille anyone. Looks exactly like the current vios except for the different rear lights and front end. Other things which I can imagine &#8220;different&#8221; are:<br />
1. new interior design<br />
2. slightly better output.<br />
3. slightly increase space-wider wheel base.</p>
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		<title>By: transformer</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/01/19/toyota-belta-on-test-in-thailand-as-toyota-vios/#comment-61163</link>
		<dc:creator>transformer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if Belta really is the new Vios... then these Toyota people really know how to reuse their resources.... its a recycle model that can keep the cost down...
using same platform, chassis, engine &amp; etc...

all the cost of developement(toolings, process, jigs, line, skill &amp; etc.) and production should had already recovered in Belta.... and now reuse the same things with minor modiff to launch the Vios... same thing use in Yaris, Passo, Boon, Vios, Avanza, Belta &amp; etc., yet want to sell high price ?

Toyota, you&#039;ll really a genius!
Reuse an old model and sold as new !

Think if P1 can do such in their model, then how low would they go ?
Right now we only see Campro in Gen2, then Waja and now Neo...
what about Platform ?  Chassis ? and etc. ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if Belta really is the new Vios&#8230; then these Toyota people really know how to reuse their resources&#8230;. its a recycle model that can keep the cost down&#8230;<br />
using same platform, chassis, engine &amp; etc&#8230;</p>
<p>all the cost of developement(toolings, process, jigs, line, skill &amp; etc.) and production should had already recovered in Belta&#8230;. and now reuse the same things with minor modiff to launch the Vios&#8230; same thing use in Yaris, Passo, Boon, Vios, Avanza, Belta &amp; etc., yet want to sell high price ?</p>
<p>Toyota, you&#8217;ll really a genius!<br />
Reuse an old model and sold as new !</p>
<p>Think if P1 can do such in their model, then how low would they go ?<br />
Right now we only see Campro in Gen2, then Waja and now Neo&#8230;<br />
what about Platform ?  Chassis ? and etc. ?</p>
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		<title>By: thow</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/01/19/toyota-belta-on-test-in-thailand-as-toyota-vios/#comment-61157</link>
		<dc:creator>thow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>current VIOS look better</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>current VIOS look better</p>
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		<title>By: ICER</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/01/19/toyota-belta-on-test-in-thailand-as-toyota-vios/#comment-61150</link>
		<dc:creator>ICER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if this one launch in M&#039;sia... 
I buy City better ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if this one launch in M&#8217;sia&#8230;<br />
I buy City better ..</p>
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		<title>By: moha774</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/01/19/toyota-belta-on-test-in-thailand-as-toyota-vios/#comment-61092</link>
		<dc:creator>moha774</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks nice..better than City..if only they brings in manual transmission&#039;s unit to Malaysia market..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks nice..better than City..if only they brings in manual transmission&#8217;s unit to Malaysia market..</p>
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		<title>By: REDDEVIL</title>
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		<dc:creator>REDDEVIL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 07:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will surely sell like a hotcake here. Most of people like Toyota no matter how it looks, it&#039;s built quality and it&#039;s performance, they just buy the brand not the product.  

Side view look exactly the same with current Vios. I suspect it&#039;s using current Vios platform. Hope the interior has better built quality..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will surely sell like a hotcake here. Most of people like Toyota no matter how it looks, it&#8217;s built quality and it&#8217;s performance, they just buy the brand not the product.  </p>
<p>Side view look exactly the same with current Vios. I suspect it&#8217;s using current Vios platform. Hope the interior has better built quality..</p>
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		<title>By: ...</title>
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		<dc:creator>...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 06:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looks like a reskinned Myvi with a boot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks like a reskinned Myvi with a boot</p>
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		<title>By: ilmondo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/01/19/toyota-belta-on-test-in-thailand-as-toyota-vios/#comment-61065</link>
		<dc:creator>ilmondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 05:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rear looks like nissan bluebird sylphy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rear looks like nissan bluebird sylphy.</p>
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		<title>By: jasmani75</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/01/19/toyota-belta-on-test-in-thailand-as-toyota-vios/#comment-61063</link>
		<dc:creator>jasmani75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ya lah..looks like City! huhh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ya lah..looks like City! huhh</p>
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		<title>By: motorhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>motorhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The current vios model looks just fine for me.. new tech / model = less cost, less material, less components, last not least...cheap!.., macam tulah toyota &amp; honda bole bikin business.... 

ps: sometimes old is better..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current vios model looks just fine for me.. new tech / model = less cost, less material, less components, last not least&#8230;cheap!.., macam tulah toyota &amp; honda bole bikin business&#8230;. </p>
<p>ps: sometimes old is better..</p>
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		<title>By: sunlamp</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunlamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 03:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys,
You are right. BM, Borneo Motors is expected to bring the 2007 VIOS in March. Yup looking forward the replacement model as the current model do look a bit aging. 
The new model based on the pics above look abit like CITY, i&#039;m expecting somehting like new Camery in Singapore.
However, i hope Avanza will be available in Singapore for buget MPV segment. Looking forward.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys,<br />
You are right. BM, Borneo Motors is expected to bring the 2007 VIOS in March. Yup looking forward the replacement model as the current model do look a bit aging.<br />
The new model based on the pics above look abit like CITY, i&#8217;m expecting somehting like new Camery in Singapore.<br />
However, i hope Avanza will be available in Singapore for buget MPV segment. Looking forward&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: bummerboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>bummerboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 03:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think these are coming to singapore before CNY. how come borneo motors so much faster in bringing new model than UMW? and to think that malaysian car market has bigger volume!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think these are coming to singapore before CNY. how come borneo motors so much faster in bringing new model than UMW? and to think that malaysian car market has bigger volume!</p>
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		<title>By: Hikaru</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hikaru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 02:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The looks seems a bit different from the one that was anticipated. I was expecting it to look like the current Yaris which is the Yaris sedan that our American counter-parts are getting. Just go over to Toyota American&#039;s website to check it out. I must say the one we&#039;re getting looks more handsome. 

Q3 perhaps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The looks seems a bit different from the one that was anticipated. I was expecting it to look like the current Yaris which is the Yaris sedan that our American counter-parts are getting. Just go over to Toyota American&#8217;s website to check it out. I must say the one we&#8217;re getting looks more handsome. </p>
<p>Q3 perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: tokmoh</title>
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		<dc:creator>tokmoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 02:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh, I just realised in the 2nd pic, is dat u, Paul? Wearing the clothes seen in the mirror before that Vios?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, I just realised in the 2nd pic, is dat u, Paul? Wearing the clothes seen in the mirror before that Vios?</p>
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		<title>By: tokmoh</title>
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		<dc:creator>tokmoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 02:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toyota Waja!!! Or is it Proton Vios?

Won&#039;t 1.3 be a bit underpowered? Esp if it&#039;s an auto, it will be sluggish......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toyota Waja!!! Or is it Proton Vios?</p>
<p>Won&#8217;t 1.3 be a bit underpowered? Esp if it&#8217;s an auto, it will be sluggish&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Khairy bin Tengku Mahaleel</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/01/19/toyota-belta-on-test-in-thailand-as-toyota-vios/#comment-61046</link>
		<dc:creator>Khairy bin Tengku Mahaleel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 02:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vios, you&#039;ll want one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vios, you&#8217;ll want one!</p>
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		<title>By: mits27</title>
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		<dc:creator>mits27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 02:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, after all my pretiction is right, the yaris sedan is the replacement of vios.
Hope this new vios can be launched at 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, after all my pretiction is right, the yaris sedan is the replacement of vios.<br />
Hope this new vios can be launched at 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: cyder300</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/01/19/toyota-belta-on-test-in-thailand-as-toyota-vios/#comment-61042</link>
		<dc:creator>cyder300</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 02:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say its abt time Toyota replaces the VIOS, a good seller with another round of better seller that takes a bigger chunck of the local market before the other brands catches up. Afterall, Toyota aims to be world&#039;s No.1. Remember that they have to fight off the koreans and chinese makers too in the coming years, securing the asian market is just part of the plan.

Thus far the CKD vios have good quality for the price you are paying and feature packed for the class, this new one should not be less. since they are good with small cars and have plenty of off the shelves parts to use from older yaris and small class models. Cheers to Toyota.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say its abt time Toyota replaces the VIOS, a good seller with another round of better seller that takes a bigger chunck of the local market before the other brands catches up. Afterall, Toyota aims to be world&#8217;s No.1. Remember that they have to fight off the koreans and chinese makers too in the coming years, securing the asian market is just part of the plan.</p>
<p>Thus far the CKD vios have good quality for the price you are paying and feature packed for the class, this new one should not be less. since they are good with small cars and have plenty of off the shelves parts to use from older yaris and small class models. Cheers to Toyota.</p>
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		<title>By: 4G63T DSM</title>
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		<dc:creator>4G63T DSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 01:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Vios is a hit because its relatively well made, has good NVH control and surprising performance from the 1.5L engine.

With the 1.3L and the lower price point for the sedan, its definately going to be the 2nd punch that knocks out Proton (First being the Myvi). Currently only the Hyndai Accent fills the gap between the Myvi and Vios. Looks like Hyundai may also have a problem if the 1.3L Vios comes in. They may just respond with a smaller sized engine as well...causing even bigger problems to Proton. Naza and Perodua looks like they have the small car market already connered. The 1.3L to 1.5L ( 55-65k) mkt seems where the next battle will take place. On top of that we may also get the Nissan Note at similar price ranges as well.

Wonder if they might use a 5spd manual gearbox to offset the 1.3L power deficit and keep the price low.

As an aside, this scenario has played here before with Honda Malaysia coming out with a limited edition 1.3L Civic (EC?) to counter the then 1.3L Saga and 1.3L Corolla back in 1986. The  Civic then only had a 1.5L engine.

Lets face it, most people that buy a Vios isn&#039;t going to put power and performance at top priority (same as those that buy a Myvi) so the 1.3L suffices if you just need to pot around town. People drive an Avanza fully loaded with 7 passengers anyway......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Vios is a hit because its relatively well made, has good NVH control and surprising performance from the 1.5L engine.</p>
<p>With the 1.3L and the lower price point for the sedan, its definately going to be the 2nd punch that knocks out Proton (First being the Myvi). Currently only the Hyndai Accent fills the gap between the Myvi and Vios. Looks like Hyundai may also have a problem if the 1.3L Vios comes in. They may just respond with a smaller sized engine as well&#8230;causing even bigger problems to Proton. Naza and Perodua looks like they have the small car market already connered. The 1.3L to 1.5L ( 55-65k) mkt seems where the next battle will take place. On top of that we may also get the Nissan Note at similar price ranges as well.</p>
<p>Wonder if they might use a 5spd manual gearbox to offset the 1.3L power deficit and keep the price low.</p>
<p>As an aside, this scenario has played here before with Honda Malaysia coming out with a limited edition 1.3L Civic (EC?) to counter the then 1.3L Saga and 1.3L Corolla back in 1986. The  Civic then only had a 1.5L engine.</p>
<p>Lets face it, most people that buy a Vios isn&#8217;t going to put power and performance at top priority (same as those that buy a Myvi) so the 1.3L suffices if you just need to pot around town. People drive an Avanza fully loaded with 7 passengers anyway&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jehutyz</title>
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		<dc:creator>jehutyz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 01:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this is coming soon then really hold me from getting Myvi. But then i taught this year they will replacement for Vios. If 2008 then is kinda too long away, now just the beginning of 2007. As you said there will have Nissan Note or Toyota Ractic...that rumor quite sometime already. I really hope here will have Ractic and the price is reasonable. But one thing if is around Myvi price then who will buy Myvi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is coming soon then really hold me from getting Myvi. But then i taught this year they will replacement for Vios. If 2008 then is kinda too long away, now just the beginning of 2007. As you said there will have Nissan Note or Toyota Ractic&#8230;that rumor quite sometime already. I really hope here will have Ractic and the price is reasonable. But one thing if is around Myvi price then who will buy Myvi.</p>
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		<title>By: kington</title>
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		<dc:creator>kington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 00:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the present tax structure, many cars are overpriced. I guess only a handful have values that&#039;s worth its money, one such is Perodua&#039;s MyVi. 

As a current Vios owner, i do hope that the Belta will offer improved ride comfort and NVH levels; something that is seemingly vital in our congested roads here. The drivetrian is an absolute gem, the all aluminium 1NZ-FE working really well with the Super ECT gearbox, giving smooth acceleration throughout the power band. Budget cars like the Vios / City are really finding places into asian homes today, and even in Singapore, Toyota sold a stagerring 5,600 units of the Vios from January to October 2006 while the next top seller could only manage approx. 3000 units.

Interesting times ahead for Toyota and Honda, as they continue their stronghold in this segment. We&#039;ll see how Honda&#039;s new version of the City will take up the fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the present tax structure, many cars are overpriced. I guess only a handful have values that&#8217;s worth its money, one such is Perodua&#8217;s MyVi. </p>
<p>As a current Vios owner, i do hope that the Belta will offer improved ride comfort and NVH levels; something that is seemingly vital in our congested roads here. The drivetrian is an absolute gem, the all aluminium 1NZ-FE working really well with the Super ECT gearbox, giving smooth acceleration throughout the power band. Budget cars like the Vios / City are really finding places into asian homes today, and even in Singapore, Toyota sold a stagerring 5,600 units of the Vios from January to October 2006 while the next top seller could only manage approx. 3000 units.</p>
<p>Interesting times ahead for Toyota and Honda, as they continue their stronghold in this segment. We&#8217;ll see how Honda&#8217;s new version of the City will take up the fight.</p>
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