Comments on: Mazda 6 2.0 and 2.3 Test Drive Review http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:29:41 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: DEFIANT http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-120602 DEFIANT Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:44:35 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-120602 what is the fuel consumption on this beauty? what is the fuel consumption on this beauty?

]]> By: mmcwei http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-92048 mmcwei Thu, 07 Jun 2007 13:18:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-92048 look nice at front and rear lamp...5 speed with manual shifting that's what i want in a car..plus 2.3 with 169ps! could be faster than new toyota camry 2.4...mazda...zoom zoom zoom... look nice at front and rear lamp…5 speed with manual shifting that’s what i want in a car..plus 2.3 with 169ps! could be faster than new toyota camry 2.4…mazda…zoom zoom zoom…

]]> By: sudha http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-75415 sudha Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:30:48 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-75415 hello mr chrisbungle, noted your comments with interest. i'm not taking any sides but as a motoring blogger who may be quite new in the motoring journalism scene, I believe Paul Tan should be commended for his efforts and if at all there are short comings, he should be given some words of encouragement. Although your tried to be subtle, dont la hantam people like that.. I like your line "you will be like a guy who can set up a nice website but knows arse about the content".. In journalism, I personally believe, someone has to start somewhere. Unless you're a genius, you'll need a mentor and i dont think Paul has the luxury of having a mentor so he has to learn on his own. So lets give him some credit. I too follow quite a number of motoring magazines locally and I can say there are some good motoring journos out there some young, some seasoned. Those seasoned journalist can lay claim to having a vast knowledge on motoring. In essence, let just let Paul season up while he brings us some interesting reads, shall we? p/s bungle error was intentional and btw, you sound like a seasoned journo, someone i know?..I think so... hello mr chrisbungle,

noted your comments with interest. i’m not taking any sides but as a motoring blogger who may be quite new in the motoring journalism scene, I believe Paul Tan should be commended for his efforts and if at all there are short comings, he should be given some words of encouragement.

Although your tried to be subtle, dont la hantam people like that..

I like your line “you will be like a guy who can set up a nice website but knows arse about the content”..

In journalism, I personally believe, someone has to start somewhere. Unless you’re a genius, you’ll need a mentor and i dont think Paul has the luxury of having a mentor so he has to learn on his own. So lets give him some credit.

I too follow quite a number of motoring magazines locally and I can say there are some good motoring journos out there some young, some seasoned. Those seasoned journalist can lay claim to having a vast knowledge on motoring. In essence, let just let Paul season up while he brings us some interesting reads, shall we?

p/s bungle error was intentional and btw, you sound like a seasoned journo, someone i know?..I think so…

]]> By: chrisbangle http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-74859 chrisbangle Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:28:13 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-74859 This Paul Tan la, needs to brush up his photo taking skill. Picture composition is as creative as 6-year old kid. Ask the other motoring journos to teach you since you are new. Just ask politely, and dont be too lansi. I notice your review on cars are good, EXCEPT the driving part. I think you are not exposed to many cars yet. You have to, because if not, you will be like a guy who can set up a nice website but knows arse about the content. This Paul Tan la, needs to brush up his photo taking skill. Picture composition is as creative as 6-year old kid. Ask the other motoring journos to teach you since you are new. Just ask politely, and dont be too lansi.

I notice your review on cars are good, EXCEPT the driving part. I think you are not exposed to many cars yet. You have to, because if not, you will be like a guy who can set up a nice website but knows arse about the content.

]]> By: lembagatanah http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-63519 lembagatanah Fri, 02 Feb 2007 02:24:07 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-63519 hhyap said: '...mazda 6.. dunno share chassis with what other cars though. the only other car of the same size as a 6 i nthe ford stable is the mondeo...' This article said '...In Mazda’s dictionary it is called the GG/GY Chassis, but it has since been adapted by Ford as the CD3 chassis for use as the base for cars like the Ford Fusion and the Lincoln MKZ... hhyap said:
‘…mazda 6.. dunno share chassis with what other cars though. the only other car of the same size as a 6 i nthe ford stable is the mondeo…’

This article said ‘…In Mazda’s dictionary it is called the GG/GY Chassis, but it has since been adapted by Ford as the CD3 chassis for use as the base for cars like the Ford Fusion and the Lincoln MKZ…

]]> By: NeedGoodCar http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-63412 NeedGoodCar Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:14:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-63412 Paul, spot on!!! To me, the Mazda6 comes out top in design, specs, price, etc except for the size comparing to camry, accord, teena. Altough passat is top of my list, i wont hesitate to put my money in this wonderful car if not for its relatively smaller size. I am just a typical middle age man with a family, so my expectation should not be very far off from the thinking of this group of people. I drool when i saw one on the road. I imagine if its size is comparable to accord......ZOOM ZOOM the maximum.... last but not least, this car looks good no matter from which angle u look at it....it's so flawless, perfect... Paul, spot on!!!

To me, the Mazda6 comes out top in design, specs, price, etc except for the size comparing to camry, accord, teena. Altough passat is top of my list, i wont hesitate to put my money in this wonderful car if not for its relatively smaller size. I am just a typical middle age man with a family, so my expectation should not be very far off from the thinking of this group of people. I drool when i saw one on the road. I imagine if its size is comparable to accord……ZOOM ZOOM the maximum….

last but not least, this car looks good no matter from which angle u look at it….it’s so flawless, perfect…

]]> By: reiva8991 http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-63172 reiva8991 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:49:38 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-63172 In Australia, Mazda 3 & 6 MPS are powered by 2.3 Turbocharged & intercooled with more than 250hp. Mazda 6 MPS is all wheel drive. In Australia, Mazda 3 & 6 MPS are powered by 2.3 Turbocharged & intercooled with more than 250hp. Mazda 6 MPS is all wheel drive.

]]> By: Mayonaise http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-63145 Mayonaise Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:38:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-63145 To umarrs: > as for MAZDA, correct me if im wrong, the let FORD uses some of their chassis. so can we say MAZDA has the ‘american’ feel ?? No, Mazda may share chassis with Ford and Volvo, but the suspension setup is completely done in-house by Mazda. And Ford and Volvo will do their own setup. That's why the feel is very different between them. And No, Mazda DOES NOT have the American feel. I've driven American cars before, I know exactly how it feels driving them. To umarrs:
> as for MAZDA, correct me if im wrong, the let FORD uses some of their chassis. so can we say MAZDA has the ‘american’ feel ??

No, Mazda may share chassis with Ford and Volvo, but the suspension setup is completely done in-house by Mazda. And Ford and Volvo will do their own setup. That’s why the feel is very different between them. And No, Mazda DOES NOT have the American feel. I’ve driven American cars before, I know exactly how it feels driving them.

]]> By: Mayonaise http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-63143 Mayonaise Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:35:08 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-63143 To omnicp & tishaban: The Mazda 8 is actually the new name for the new Mazda MPV. It's named the "8" in all countries except Japan. Check out Mazda USA or Japan Websites, you'll be able to see the all-new Mazda 8 there... It's gorgeous... To omnicp & tishaban:

The Mazda 8 is actually the new name for the new Mazda MPV. It’s named the “8″ in all countries except Japan. Check out Mazda USA or Japan Websites, you’ll be able to see the all-new Mazda 8 there… It’s gorgeous…

]]> By: hhyap http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-63089 hhyap Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:38:08 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-63089 basically mazda is owned by ford, so does volvo so a mazda 3 shares the same chassis as a volvo s40 and a ford focus mazda 3 shares same engine as normal focus a focus xr5 share the same engine as a s40T5 mazda 6.. dunno share chassis with what other cars though. the only other car of the same size as a 6 i nthe ford stable is the mondeo basically mazda is owned by ford, so does volvo

so a mazda 3 shares the same chassis as a volvo s40 and a ford focus
mazda 3 shares same engine as normal focus
a focus xr5 share the same engine as a s40T5

mazda 6.. dunno share chassis with what other cars though. the only other car of the same size as a 6 i nthe ford stable is the mondeo

]]> By: Goniothalamus http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62952 Goniothalamus Wed, 31 Jan 2007 05:55:43 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62952 Nice indeed... Em, Ford-Mazda chassis in Mazda's model is Japanese size, not American size. For many reason, i rather choose his brother, Mazda 3 with 2.0 powerplant. Nice indeed…
Em, Ford-Mazda chassis in Mazda’s model is Japanese size, not American size.
For many reason, i rather choose his brother, Mazda 3 with 2.0 powerplant.

]]> By: umarss http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62852 umarss Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:22:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62852 J said : I heard that Mazda is the most “European” feel among the Japanese makes.. Anyone agree ? > i cant say i agree 100% bcos i think NISSAN has more of it. After all, NISSAN is owned by RENAULT and they share a lot of their chassis together. Take a look at NISSAN Tiida. Very 'european' for me . > as for MAZDA, correct me if im wrong, the let FORD uses some of their chassis. so can we say MAZDA has the 'american' feel ?? J said :
I heard that Mazda is the most “European” feel among the Japanese makes.. Anyone agree ?

> i cant say i agree 100% bcos i think NISSAN has more of it. After all, NISSAN is owned by RENAULT and they share a lot of their chassis together. Take a look at NISSAN Tiida. Very ‘european’ for me .
> as for MAZDA, correct me if im wrong, the let FORD uses some of their chassis. so can we say MAZDA has the ‘american’ feel ??

]]> By: tishaban http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62842 tishaban Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:51:55 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62842 Mayonnaise, what is the Mazda 8? Is that the JDM model for the US CX-9? The CX-9 is priced similarly to the Toyota Harrier/Lexus LX300 and Nissan Murano, except that it's a 7-seater. Definitely a plus for those families out there who have enough cash to spare. I really do hope they bring it in. Not that I'll buy one, my money is on the RX-8... Mayonnaise, what is the Mazda 8? Is that the JDM model for the US CX-9?

The CX-9 is priced similarly to the Toyota Harrier/Lexus LX300 and Nissan Murano, except that it’s a 7-seater. Definitely a plus for those families out there who have enough cash to spare. I really do hope they bring it in. Not that I’ll buy one, my money is on the RX-8…

]]> By: Grey_Fox http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62834 Grey_Fox Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:03:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62834 nice post paul, great pictures. nice post paul, great pictures.

]]> By: J http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62812 J Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:41:58 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62812 I heard that Mazda is the most "European" feel among the Japanese makes.. Anyone agree ? :) I heard that Mazda is the most “European” feel among the Japanese makes.. Anyone agree ? :)

]]> By: protonGL http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62719 protonGL Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:06:33 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62719 not enough quirk to make it exciting, ..simply in normal diciplined manner, .....yeah its mazda,,, not lancer or nor alfa, not enough quirk to make it exciting, ..simply in normal diciplined manner,
…..yeah its mazda,,, not lancer or nor alfa,

]]> By: albagmane http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62715 albagmane Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:02:59 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62715 still using the "zoom zoom" theme??? looks like this car really zoom zoom!!! still using the “zoom zoom” theme??? looks like this car really zoom zoom!!!

]]> By: Paul Tan http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62697 Paul Tan Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:36:58 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62697 activematic is just a normal torque converter auto with manual shifting the ford group of companies does not have a clutchless manual yet, apparently the first one will be in a volvo. activematic is just a normal torque converter auto with manual shifting

the ford group of companies does not have a clutchless manual yet, apparently the first one will be in a volvo.

]]> By: karheng http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62695 karheng Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:32:39 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62695 There is an activematic transmission which is pretty much manual without a clutch. I think there will not be much of a difference in the 2.4 Camry facelifted version compared to the told one because I read somewhere that it was merely facelifted while the core of the car was retained. There is an activematic transmission which is pretty much manual without a clutch.

I think there will not be much of a difference in the 2.4 Camry facelifted version compared to the told one because I read somewhere that it was merely facelifted while the core of the car was retained.

]]> By: dawgHause http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62649 dawgHause Tue, 30 Jan 2007 07:42:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62649 can C&C bring in manual for the mazda 6. its so irritating that we aren't offered a simple manual transmission for cars like these. what good is handling if you don't have a manual? can C&C bring in manual for the mazda 6.
its so irritating that we aren’t offered a simple manual transmission for cars like these.
what good is handling if you don’t have a manual?

]]> By: òmnícp http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62646 òmnícp Tue, 30 Jan 2007 07:21:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62646 wait a minute, i am confused by mayo. is there a mazda 8 in the market? or mayo is referring to RX-8? wait a minute, i am confused by mayo. is there a mazda 8 in the market? or mayo is referring to RX-8?

]]> By: maibatsu_thunder http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62636 maibatsu_thunder Tue, 30 Jan 2007 06:16:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62636 Mazdaspeed version would be damn nice to have!! Mazdaspeed version would be damn nice to have!!

]]> By: familyman http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62634 familyman Tue, 30 Jan 2007 06:01:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62634 there's 5door version of mazda 6. you can check it out at mazdausa site. Paul, if you have 140k to spare.. would it be mazda 6 2.0 or mazda 3 2.0 ? there’s 5door version of mazda 6. you can check it out at mazdausa site.

Paul, if you have 140k to spare.. would it be mazda 6 2.0 or mazda 3 2.0 ?

]]> By: Jiun 88 http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62631 Jiun 88 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 05:44:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62631 Wait a sec. Is the Mazda6 considered 4-doors or 5-doors?? Can someone plz clarify?? Thx... =P Wait a sec. Is the Mazda6 considered 4-doors or 5-doors?? Can someone plz clarify??

Thx…

=P

]]> By: kington http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62620 kington Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:11:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62620 I had a spin in the 2.0 litre version when it was launched a few years ago, but it came with 45 series Potenza 050 tyres, unlike what Paul has specified here. I've yet to try to 2.3 litre version though. I quite like the way it handles, though the interior was a bit off thanks to its all red light illumination, something that would certainly stir my soul within the 1st few weeks of ownership. Accelration was good in the old 2.0litre unit, and crusing on the highway was pleasant enough though the previos Camry was more comfortable. I had a spin in the 2.0 litre version when it was launched a few years ago, but it came with 45 series Potenza 050 tyres, unlike what Paul has specified here. I’ve yet to try to 2.3 litre version though.

I quite like the way it handles, though the interior was a bit off thanks to its all red light illumination, something that would certainly stir my soul within the 1st few weeks of ownership. Accelration was good in the old 2.0litre unit, and crusing on the highway was pleasant enough though the previos Camry was more comfortable.

]]> By: Mayonaise http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62619 Mayonaise Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:10:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62619 C&C will be bringing in the CX-7 and MX-5 this year. No news on whether they'll bring in the Mazda 8 (it's way too expensive to bring it in here from Japan). I've test drove Mazda 6 2.3 just 2 weeks ago, and from my point of view, it is quite different from the pre-facelift version. It's just too bad that C&C decided not to bring in the hatchback version, I love that one. C&C will be bringing in the CX-7 and MX-5 this year. No news on whether they’ll bring in the Mazda 8 (it’s way too expensive to bring it in here from Japan).

I’ve test drove Mazda 6 2.3 just 2 weeks ago, and from my point of view, it is quite different from the pre-facelift version.

It’s just too bad that C&C decided not to bring in the hatchback version, I love that one.

]]> By: KY http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62611 KY Tue, 30 Jan 2007 02:41:48 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62611 macam encyclopedia entry macam encyclopedia entry

]]> By: tishaban http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62609 tishaban Tue, 30 Jan 2007 02:24:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62609 Any more fun Mazda cars to come officially from C&C? The CX-7 and CX-9 look awesome. Any more fun Mazda cars to come officially from C&C? The CX-7 and CX-9 look awesome.

]]> By: BrakeFader http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62605 BrakeFader Tue, 30 Jan 2007 01:50:27 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62605 I would say Mazda 6 is placed at the same level as Camry. If the Camry is for current old geezer/serious executives, then the Mazda 6 is for new generation old geezer/serious executives who knows how to have fun. :) I would say Mazda 6 is placed at the same level as Camry. If the Camry is for current old geezer/serious executives, then the Mazda 6 is for new generation old geezer/serious executives who knows how to have fun. :)

]]> By: Hikaru http://paultan.org/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62601 Hikaru Tue, 30 Jan 2007 01:18:37 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/01/30/mazda-6-20-and-23-test-drive/#comment-62601 This might be seen as an unfair comparison but at the 2.0 price is within in the price range of a 2002/3 BMW 318 or if more sporty perhaps a 2001 BMW 325 with the later giving a bigger kick. Reason for saying this is because i think the Mazda is still short of what the BMW can do in terms of technology and dynamically. May the both can't be compared because when bought new the BM cost nearly twice as more but then when it is 2nd hand, it is a worthy consideration, not to mention the better depreciation and sellability of BM over Mazda and maintanance. Maybe Paul has a comment on the twice cars? This might be seen as an unfair comparison but at the 2.0 price is within in the price range of a 2002/3 BMW 318 or if more sporty perhaps a 2001 BMW 325 with the later giving a bigger kick. Reason for saying this is because i think the Mazda is still short of what the BMW can do in terms of technology and dynamically. May the both can’t be compared because when bought new the BM cost nearly twice as more but then when it is 2nd hand, it is a worthy consideration, not to mention the better depreciation and sellability of BM over Mazda and maintanance.

Maybe Paul has a comment on the twice cars?

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