Comments on: Proton and Lotus Engineering develop Proton GEN2 EVE Hybrid Concept

By: kenneth1985

kenneth1985 — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 04:34:38 +0000

Does anyone knows the reason why Malaysia is lagging behind in introducing this technology? Thanks.

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By: encik98

encik98 — Tue, 01 May 2007 14:18:15 +0000

Just found out it is a CVT from a company called Punch (Used to be ZF Ecotronic, I think), so if Proton wanted to, they could probably buy the rights to use the technology in existing Gen2’s, if it already works in the EVE Gen2 – fair comment?

By: kei9

kei9 — Tue, 01 May 2007 13:28:46 +0000

nah! dude thats a long time ago! but it might be possible….

By: kei9

kei9 — Tue, 01 May 2007 13:25:27 +0000

nah! dont think so…………………thats a long time ago man!

By: encik98

encik98 — Tue, 01 May 2007 10:47:05 +0000

A little late, but I just found this – looks like Lotus had started talking about CVT back in 1991 – is the CVT in the EVE car a result of 16 years of effort?
findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3165/is_n7_v27/ai_11008659

By: buggygil

buggygil — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:10:02 +0000

I don’t know about the car. The engine cover looks a lot nicer, not to say the hybrid engine. But did they improve the door opener? They better, before displaying it in any auto show.
By the way, the LCD screen looks weird and ugly.

By: normal_user

normal_user — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 00:30:53 +0000

First time I seeso many people praising proton on Paul’s blog. haha.

But the car is very nice if Proton can make it into production and price it a bit lower than the City/Vios at RM65K-70K. Sure meletup!

By: ilmondo

ilmondo — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:27:15 +0000

great 2 c this! hope it enters d market soon 2 boast up sales.. really gives us hope.. hope its reasonably priced, improved quality, safety, handling, reliability… its things r planned properly, it wil b very very +ve.

those rims are superb on dis car.. goodluck proton

By: proton GL

proton GL — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:22:30 +0000

still where is CPS

By: kevyeoh

kevyeoh — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:44:35 +0000

wooo hooo… great news…i hope this product will be out soon…and at a very competitive price…if come out RM100k…then forget it la…if same price as city/vios, i will still go for city/vios because of their reputation of giving a better/reliable car…

if around RM70k region, then it’s very tempting… then i can trade in my wira junk already for this new hybrid proton…

whoooooo !!!

By: mystvearn

mystvearn — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 12:49:59 +0000

Nice move, but I don’t think it will ever come here…

By: narrowband

narrowband — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 09:07:56 +0000

Indeed a positive step forward for Proton. Hopefully build/materials quality improves too.

By: transformer

transformer — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 08:59:37 +0000

nice move P1! but make sure its realiable!
at least last for 3-5years before its KONG!

another important things is, don’t charge owner so high when they need to change or repair the unit! ( either the CVT or the EVE )

(heard from forumner that a new CVT for City cost Rm20K+)

By: szw

szw — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 08:49:15 +0000

good move, if the cvt ever make into proton cars, this will reduce fuel economy .
are they supplying the manual override ?

By: nmh

nmh — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 07:38:24 +0000

FUNNY monitor..LOL

By: aesthari

aesthari — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 07:16:43 +0000

Finally something noteworthy from Proton, would be great if they can make it reliable and suitable for mass production, at a reasonable price of course.

By: e-nabilll

e-nabilll — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 07:16:35 +0000

here we go again…aaaaaanyway , any idea if the CVT is 100% build by lotus or borrowed from somewere?

By: volvolover

volvolover — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 05:36:56 +0000

hey Joe Ooi my friend long time no see, u mean the hybrid is not good as advertised. Need to cut my petrol expenses. hehehe. But again buying a car may costs way more than petrol cost. My satria is 11 years old. I plan to change at only 15 years old or more. So I am still being cautious of what new models is coming out.My I hate the old satria interior. Jeremy Clarkson said it’s either cheap and nasty or expensive and cheerful. There is nothing as cheap and cheerful. Let me tell you this, it is expensive and nasty. I bought a 1996 satria at RM60K. Those days RM60K is like RM100K or more in today’s money. Today’s proton model is “cheap”. It’s cheap compared to foreign cars because of AP kings and excise duties. There is about 10-20% tax on local cars. Much lower than foreign cars. So when they price it “cheap” it’s not cheap but cheap compared to foreign cars.

By: Joe Ooi

Joe Ooi — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 05:24:57 +0000

volvolover, my friend better don’t buy Gen-2 or any other model. Look at other P1’s model advert. All claim and come with brilliant catch phrase!!!!!!!!!! For P1 case, don’t judge to book buy it cover, and don’t there is water in the drum if it is empty!

By: volvolover

volvolover — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 05:04:10 +0000

I don’t mind buying a Gen 2 to replace my proton satria 1996 model if it is that good as advertised.

By: e-nabilll

e-nabilll — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 04:59:28 +0000

y top speed stil the same at 190km/h??? my std gen2 easily go 190km/h…..sting amiss here,most hybrid come with smaller wheels to help even more saving fuel , bt this one comes with wat look like 17rims with lower profile !

By: Paul Tan

Paul Tan — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 04:28:47 +0000

4G63T DSM: “Torque rises from the stock 148Nm at 4,000rpm to 233Nm at 1,500rpm.”

By: gogo2

gogo2 — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 04:19:44 +0000

Proton Gen2 140hp hibrid engine with rear wheel drive. Who wants to buy? Made of Galvanish5 metal.

By: Xoomie

Xoomie — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 04:00:52 +0000

“(3) Continuously Variable Transmission configuration

MPG (EU combined cycle): 41 (5% increase from baseline)
Max torque: 148Nm @ 4000rpm
Max power: 82kW / 110hp @ 6000rpm
0-62 mph (0-100kph): 12.6 sec
Top speed: 118mph
CO2 (combined cycle): 164g/km (5% reduction from baseline)”

Paul, CVT doesn improves performance is it?
Its the same as baseline Gen2

By: 8918

8918 — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 04:00:33 +0000

Are they for real?Unless it’s purely based on Latus Engineering.
Otherwise proton will have an embarrass car(still remember wira 2.0diesel?People who own the diesel car=repair more than driving).

By: msmar_453

msmar_453 — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 03:50:35 +0000

i think CVT will be attached to the new coming soon WAJA instead of GEN2.
source : NST CBT

By: honda_driver

honda_driver — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 03:25:51 +0000

from what the press release says, i think the most exciting thing about “eve” is not so much that proton may have a hybrid car soon, but any car manufacturer can have it as well without spending too extensively on R&D.

It seems that this product is in a way a “bolt-on” hybrid kit(like a bolt-on turbo), using components that are already largely available in the market. If the product kicks off well, it could lead to lotus engineering getting some decent business from car manufacturers who dont already have a hybrid programme but want one.. they can instead, get lotus’s help to incorporate the technology into their existing car models and engines like how it is applied with the GEN2 shown.

By: lone_rider

lone_rider — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 03:25:06 +0000

Not to forget the maintenance howdy…Not only the cost, but do they well prepared to countermeasure the incoming problem with that hybrid system while still strugling to solve a lot of “regular” problem. Anyway, I do impress with the direction proton heading. Hybrid?? Thats Awesome folk!!. Seems like they start gaining something from Lotus. Well done.

By: 4G63T DSM

4G63T DSM — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 03:18:58 +0000

acbc said,
March 7, 2007 @ 9:26 am

If it ever make it to our shores, it has to be the best thing ever produced by Proton.

Now, I wonder if it has performance problem since Campro only has power after 4000RPMs.

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Actually it WILL solve the low end torque problem of the Campro. Max torque was not quoted in the specs, but typically of electric motors, you get max torque at 0 rpm. Depending on gearning, you could get as much as 100Nm of torque from that electric motor of that size. So technically, at lower RPM, it should perform more like a N/A 2.0L engine if not better .