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	<title>Comments on: Volkswagen drops tie-up plans with Proton?</title>
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		<title>By: fandango</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-78670</link>
		<dc:creator>fandango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 14:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe the singaporean camp is being shrewd; if i&#039;m not mistaken, they do hv some shares in Proton, and, maybe they know the REAL news, so they are spreading a misleading one to make others sell, so they can buy and PROFIT when the REAL news in made known!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe the singaporean camp is being shrewd; if i&#8217;m not mistaken, they do hv some shares in Proton, and, maybe they know the REAL news, so they are spreading a misleading one to make others sell, so they can buy and PROFIT when the REAL news in made known!</p>
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		<title>By: GlowJo</title>
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		<dc:creator>GlowJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intermilan, 
how about u be the actor for the porn movie? go and buy potong and manage it.. laa u guys know to talk only...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intermilan,<br />
how about u be the actor for the porn movie? go and buy potong and manage it.. laa u guys know to talk only&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Ooi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-78180</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Ooi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalk only ....................... no deal ah by 1 April fool lor .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalk only &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. no deal ah by 1 April fool lor &#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: intermilan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-78101</link>
		<dc:creator>intermilan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>see see... all clown only.

no need to ask anti-potong whether they are happy if potong is no more. no need to say &#039;wait to be seen&#039;; why can you get it? most ppl here are jijik with this porn wayang ... entitled &#039;Potong&#039; and of course all its production crew, film director, choreography director, sound editor, advertising agents, fans etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see see&#8230; all clown only.</p>
<p>no need to ask anti-potong whether they are happy if potong is no more. no need to say &#8216;wait to be seen&#8217;; why can you get it? most ppl here are jijik with this porn wayang &#8230; entitled &#8216;Potong&#8217; and of course all its production crew, film director, choreography director, sound editor, advertising agents, fans etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Tan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-78070</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>update: talks are still on

http://paultan.org/archives/2007/03/30/volkswagen-says-proton-talks-still-on/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>update: talks are still on</p>
<p><a href="http://paultan.org/archives/2007/03/30/volkswagen-says-proton-talks-still-on/" rel="nofollow">http://paultan.org/archives/2007/03/30/volkswagen-says-proton-talks-still-on/</a></p>
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		<title>By: familyman</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-78049</link>
		<dc:creator>familyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proton so resilient laaahh.. why ahh
always something keeping it from getting into shape..
die die die proton....
(just for the sake of it) hahaha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proton so resilient laaahh.. why ahh<br />
always something keeping it from getting into shape..<br />
die die die proton&#8230;.<br />
(just for the sake of it) hahaha</p>
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		<title>By: dzat46</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-78048</link>
		<dc:creator>dzat46</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>outspoken said,
March 30, 2007 @ 1:21 pm 

rilekla.. trick je ni.. share prices of course will tumble to hear these kind of runours.. Then VW/Proton will announce that they have reached an agreement.. By that time, VW already bought Proton shares at a very low price, an no body would know it until its too late..

so.. go an buy proton shares now!! Mega sale..
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Yep, u&#039;re damn right!!...let get proton shares now be4 VW&amp;P1 announce their tie-up!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>outspoken said,<br />
March 30, 2007 @ 1:21 pm </p>
<p>rilekla.. trick je ni.. share prices of course will tumble to hear these kind of runours.. Then VW/Proton will announce that they have reached an agreement.. By that time, VW already bought Proton shares at a very low price, an no body would know it until its too late..</p>
<p>so.. go an buy proton shares now!! Mega sale..<br />
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<p>Yep, u&#8217;re damn right!!&#8230;let get proton shares now be4 VW&amp;P1 announce their tie-up!!</p>
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		<title>By: REDDEVIL</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-78041</link>
		<dc:creator>REDDEVIL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHY.........? Because the cronies, I believe most of them are the MPs in the current Cabinet are too reluctant and selfish to let go their interests in Proton VW are clever to let go the tie-up because Proton is a mess, full of politics and uncertainty, it&#039; not just a genuine JV between companies, it involves dirty politics and self interests..  

We live in a beautiful country ruined by Fxxx-up Government.. they are sucking our money, selfish, incompetence, talking nonsense etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHY&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;? Because the cronies, I believe most of them are the MPs in the current Cabinet are too reluctant and selfish to let go their interests in Proton VW are clever to let go the tie-up because Proton is a mess, full of politics and uncertainty, it&#8217; not just a genuine JV between companies, it involves dirty politics and self interests..  </p>
<p>We live in a beautiful country ruined by Fxxx-up Government.. they are sucking our money, selfish, incompetence, talking nonsense etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: meejawa</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-78037</link>
		<dc:creator>meejawa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 06:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason I think the partner will be local (either DRB Hicom or Naza, although my money&#039;s on Naza), is because even after the partnership, Proton will still be protected. Whoever sleeps with Proton, will reap the benefits as well. The high prices of imported or non-local cars are due to the taxes imposed by the government, which in turn is used to subsidize Proton, as the protectionism mantra goes. So in terms of profit margins, local cars actually have more. 

In a way this is not ba, since local+local companies can have higher revenue, and theoretically the quality will improve, although we all know not to the level if Proton were to partner a foreign brand. That in turn will keep more money in the country. Reality however proves that the money will only go to the few chosen ones.

So at the end, we will get slightly improved cars, at a price we can afford, with more money to the cronies.

Come AFTA 2010, when all forms of taxes and duties are leveled, do you think Proton/Naza&#039;s cars will be at least at par, quality and price wise, to the other marques? How will they compete then? They only have 3 years to go, and Proton has been in the business for more than 20 years!

This is what Proton should be thinking: SHAPE UP BY GETTING A GENUINE PARTNER WITH THE TECHNOLOGY AND PASSION.

Sadly, that&#039;s not gonna happen. I&#039;m keeping my iswara till it goes to the scrap yard; hopefully it can last until 2010. Then, here I come Beemer 330i at RM150k!! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason I think the partner will be local (either DRB Hicom or Naza, although my money&#8217;s on Naza), is because even after the partnership, Proton will still be protected. Whoever sleeps with Proton, will reap the benefits as well. The high prices of imported or non-local cars are due to the taxes imposed by the government, which in turn is used to subsidize Proton, as the protectionism mantra goes. So in terms of profit margins, local cars actually have more. </p>
<p>In a way this is not ba, since local+local companies can have higher revenue, and theoretically the quality will improve, although we all know not to the level if Proton were to partner a foreign brand. That in turn will keep more money in the country. Reality however proves that the money will only go to the few chosen ones.</p>
<p>So at the end, we will get slightly improved cars, at a price we can afford, with more money to the cronies.</p>
<p>Come AFTA 2010, when all forms of taxes and duties are leveled, do you think Proton/Naza&#8217;s cars will be at least at par, quality and price wise, to the other marques? How will they compete then? They only have 3 years to go, and Proton has been in the business for more than 20 years!</p>
<p>This is what Proton should be thinking: SHAPE UP BY GETTING A GENUINE PARTNER WITH THE TECHNOLOGY AND PASSION.</p>
<p>Sadly, that&#8217;s not gonna happen. I&#8217;m keeping my iswara till it goes to the scrap yard; hopefully it can last until 2010. Then, here I come Beemer 330i at RM150k!! <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: noAP4u</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-78033</link>
		<dc:creator>noAP4u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 06:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deadline is tomorrow. Najib already showed the govt&#039;s hand -- they won&#039;t make it. wtf has MITI and MoF reports got to do with this? It is squarely on Khazanah&quot;s board to decide the matter or to carry out the negotiation for the sale of its assets. (well, looking at this from the proper corporate point-of-view)

Anyway, VW have never come across as too keen to negotiate this second time around, after their first experience. And what with the govt dragging their feet and passing the buck around, it&#039;s reasonable to assume that their team is already totally fed-up. I would, if I was their negotiator. 

I mean, dealing with indecisive people is the worst thing that can happen in a JV. How can product lineups be decided upon, vendors selection requirements reviewed and agreed? Will this new JV be stuck bickering as the race to release new models into the market heats up? Opportunities are gonna pass them by, if the conduct of this protracted negotiation is any indication. This will weigh heavily on their top mgmt decison-making.

Germans are inbred with efficiency. This nonsense will not do. Worst of all, it really makes the country look like a bunch of idiotic Elbonians in the eyes of the global automotive industry. (Our govt can&#039;t even properly conduct a straight forward business negotiation, and our people elected them...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deadline is tomorrow. Najib already showed the govt&#8217;s hand &#8212; they won&#8217;t make it. wtf has MITI and MoF reports got to do with this? It is squarely on Khazanah&#8221;s board to decide the matter or to carry out the negotiation for the sale of its assets. (well, looking at this from the proper corporate point-of-view)</p>
<p>Anyway, VW have never come across as too keen to negotiate this second time around, after their first experience. And what with the govt dragging their feet and passing the buck around, it&#8217;s reasonable to assume that their team is already totally fed-up. I would, if I was their negotiator. </p>
<p>I mean, dealing with indecisive people is the worst thing that can happen in a JV. How can product lineups be decided upon, vendors selection requirements reviewed and agreed? Will this new JV be stuck bickering as the race to release new models into the market heats up? Opportunities are gonna pass them by, if the conduct of this protracted negotiation is any indication. This will weigh heavily on their top mgmt decison-making.</p>
<p>Germans are inbred with efficiency. This nonsense will not do. Worst of all, it really makes the country look like a bunch of idiotic Elbonians in the eyes of the global automotive industry. (Our govt can&#8217;t even properly conduct a straight forward business negotiation, and our people elected them&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-78032</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 06:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasting time only la ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasting time only la &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: iosis</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-78030</link>
		<dc:creator>iosis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 06:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i p1 doesnt pair up wif a foreign partner, i&#039;d sell of my gen2. it sucks anyway...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i p1 doesnt pair up wif a foreign partner, i&#8217;d sell of my gen2. it sucks anyway&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: freeze</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-78026</link>
		<dc:creator>freeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 05:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess Proton was infected with AIDS shortly after being born. It took some years before the symptoms started to show. Now its reaching the end, after failure to develope a vaccine. It&#039;s gonna die soon, sufferingly. It should look into euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess Proton was infected with AIDS shortly after being born. It took some years before the symptoms started to show. Now its reaching the end, after failure to develope a vaccine. It&#8217;s gonna die soon, sufferingly. It should look into euthanasia.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaboda</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-78022</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaboda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 05:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can pray to all the gods and once, call in the bomoh, sacrifice a goat, and nothing will come of this pathetic car company. National Pride was what I heard someone earlier described if we let Proton go. How about face the facts this is a national joke, so we have punchline when is this going to end. 

This is just the nail in the coffin for this company, VW a company that could give proton a clue into car manufacturing pulling out of this signals the end. 

I second the call to let this company die, if they are going to bleed our EPF to keep this going let the conspiracy become obvious. But dont support this leech, its quickening our downfall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can pray to all the gods and once, call in the bomoh, sacrifice a goat, and nothing will come of this pathetic car company. National Pride was what I heard someone earlier described if we let Proton go. How about face the facts this is a national joke, so we have punchline when is this going to end. </p>
<p>This is just the nail in the coffin for this company, VW a company that could give proton a clue into car manufacturing pulling out of this signals the end. </p>
<p>I second the call to let this company die, if they are going to bleed our EPF to keep this going let the conspiracy become obvious. But dont support this leech, its quickening our downfall.</p>
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		<title>By: outspoken</title>
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		<dc:creator>outspoken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 05:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rilekla.. trick je ni.. share prices of course will tumble to hear these kind of runours.. Then VW/Proton will announce that they have reached an agreement.. By that time, VW already bought Proton shares at a very low price, an no body would know it until its too late..

so.. go an buy proton shares now!! Mega sale..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rilekla.. trick je ni.. share prices of course will tumble to hear these kind of runours.. Then VW/Proton will announce that they have reached an agreement.. By that time, VW already bought Proton shares at a very low price, an no body would know it until its too late..</p>
<p>so.. go an buy proton shares now!! Mega sale..</p>
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		<title>By: e-nabilll</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-78019</link>
		<dc:creator>e-nabilll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wd bl**dy hate it if it if proton ends up in local hands....anyway,this is jus a rumour....lets not jump into conclusion n consider a rumour as a true story....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wd bl**dy hate it if it if proton ends up in local hands&#8230;.anyway,this is jus a rumour&#8230;.lets not jump into conclusion n consider a rumour as a true story&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: hotwheeler</title>
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		<dc:creator>hotwheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well...to all muslims, lets pray for proton after friday prayer...amin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well&#8230;to all muslims, lets pray for proton after friday prayer&#8230;amin.</p>
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		<title>By: hondadriver</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-78014</link>
		<dc:creator>hondadriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no matter what happens, life goes on la.  i&#039;m trying to imagine the scenario...
if proton shuts down tommorow, we will still be burdened by fuel hikes, toll rates, water rates, electricity..etc. etc.  rich will still get richer, AP kings still get their AP&#039;s..  car prices still high (government collects more taxes, why should they stop?)   

we lose the chance of buying cheap protons..

so i suppose the normal malaysian will end up buying china, perodua and naza cars because they are the cheapest at the moment.  when power window problems end with proton, we will end up complaining about power window problems in china cars, naza cars.. perodua cars..etc.

so will any of the proton bashers here be any happier if proton shuts down tommorow?  i think that remains to be seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no matter what happens, life goes on la.  i&#8217;m trying to imagine the scenario&#8230;<br />
if proton shuts down tommorow, we will still be burdened by fuel hikes, toll rates, water rates, electricity..etc. etc.  rich will still get richer, AP kings still get their AP&#8217;s..  car prices still high (government collects more taxes, why should they stop?)   </p>
<p>we lose the chance of buying cheap protons..</p>
<p>so i suppose the normal malaysian will end up buying china, perodua and naza cars because they are the cheapest at the moment.  when power window problems end with proton, we will end up complaining about power window problems in china cars, naza cars.. perodua cars..etc.</p>
<p>so will any of the proton bashers here be any happier if proton shuts down tommorow?  i think that remains to be seen.</p>
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		<title>By: auctioncenter2u</title>
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		<dc:creator>auctioncenter2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nazi? Hmm.......Just another type of CLOWN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nazi? Hmm&#8230;&#8230;.Just another type of CLOWN</p>
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		<title>By: auctioncenter2u</title>
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		<dc:creator>auctioncenter2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who wants to be PARTNER with a group of CLOWNs?

When you talk to a clown, Every answers from them are JOKING, Maybe, Not sure........No conclusion........is for sure.

NOT a Surprise to me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who wants to be PARTNER with a group of CLOWNs?</p>
<p>When you talk to a clown, Every answers from them are JOKING, Maybe, Not sure&#8230;&#8230;..No conclusion&#8230;&#8230;..is for sure.</p>
<p>NOT a Surprise to me!</p>
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		<title>By: Xoomie</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-78011</link>
		<dc:creator>Xoomie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go Naza Go..!</description>
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		<title>By: digiman</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-78009</link>
		<dc:creator>digiman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe Temasek wants to take over Proton? since the are losing shin corp now, you might just never know. As we all know, Singapore national car is Toyota and Nissan, and they really need a new national car, why not Proton since the potential to grow is tremendous...

Why i say that? well, an image of the company can be changed over time. Proton already has the manufacturing capabilities and the techno know how, so the growth potential is tremendous.. serious, i see proton as a very rough diamond, just like in Blood Diamond, the the uncut pink diamond stored in the vault... Proton is just like that, think of Van de Kaap is Gov&#039;t, and Leo Di Caprio as DrM for finding the diamond, whereas the black guy is some one with Proton idea... so now we need someone to actually cut the diamond...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe Temasek wants to take over Proton? since the are losing shin corp now, you might just never know. As we all know, Singapore national car is Toyota and Nissan, and they really need a new national car, why not Proton since the potential to grow is tremendous&#8230;</p>
<p>Why i say that? well, an image of the company can be changed over time. Proton already has the manufacturing capabilities and the techno know how, so the growth potential is tremendous.. serious, i see proton as a very rough diamond, just like in Blood Diamond, the the uncut pink diamond stored in the vault&#8230; Proton is just like that, think of Van de Kaap is Gov&#8217;t, and Leo Di Caprio as DrM for finding the diamond, whereas the black guy is some one with Proton idea&#8230; so now we need someone to actually cut the diamond&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ed0r</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed0r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 03:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well usually they piss us off first lol

but last few days in the Parliament shahrir samad questioned why they (the southern country) are interested in the high speed train project (the one YTL has started initiating) to be built up to there... why not up to JB only. Well... i guess. The rest *shrugs*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well usually they piss us off first lol</p>
<p>but last few days in the Parliament shahrir samad questioned why they (the southern country) are interested in the high speed train project (the one YTL has started initiating) to be built up to there&#8230; why not up to JB only. Well&#8230; i guess. The rest *shrugs*</p>
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		<title>By: superman</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-77993</link>
		<dc:creator>superman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 03:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>meejawa said,
March 30, 2007 @ 10:19 am 

... itâ€™s just that if weâ€™re gonna partner with someone, shouldnâ€™t it be with someone more experienced and knowledgeable. NAZA is an assembler, PROTON is a manufacturer. Why seek out someone lower at the food chain?
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Good Point ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>meejawa said,<br />
March 30, 2007 @ 10:19 am </p>
<p>&#8230; itâ€™s just that if weâ€™re gonna partner with someone, shouldnâ€™t it be with someone more experienced and knowledgeable. NAZA is an assembler, PROTON is a manufacturer. Why seek out someone lower at the food chain?<br />
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<p>Good Point <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: superman</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-77991</link>
		<dc:creator>superman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 03:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hondadriver said,
March 30, 2007 @ 11:02 am 

its a singaporean conspiracy!!! iâ€™ve checked all the worldwide news sites, and theyâ€™re the only one carrying the storyâ€¦ i wonder why??
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Have we pissed our neighbours lately??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hondadriver said,<br />
March 30, 2007 @ 11:02 am </p>
<p>its a singaporean conspiracy!!! iâ€™ve checked all the worldwide news sites, and theyâ€™re the only one carrying the storyâ€¦ i wonder why??<br />
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<p>Have we pissed our neighbours lately??</p>
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		<title>By: Hikaru</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-77985</link>
		<dc:creator>Hikaru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 03:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weird, news are comflicting. First, the &quot;advance stage news&quot;  that the top VW official said and have even planned to introduce a new model. Then now the tie is off. So these two are conflicting and look who is gaining. The stock market. 

So it&#039;s probably the case of some one using the controversy in this deal to make some quick (huge) profits. Some one is feeding the media with news. They might be called spin doctors. 

We the citizens are just being take for a joyride. No much point keep a close eye on it. Even the names appearing in the papers are just pawns for a bigger chess games. I have lost confidence to say the least in this deal. I was hoping and dreaming of a Malaysian good quality volkswagen (folk wagon i.e. ppl can afford). I think some one said before &quot;it&#039;s the malaysian was, or leave the country&quot;, in terms of car, i will look towards Jap or Europe cars. No local or china cars for me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weird, news are comflicting. First, the &#8220;advance stage news&#8221;  that the top VW official said and have even planned to introduce a new model. Then now the tie is off. So these two are conflicting and look who is gaining. The stock market. </p>
<p>So it&#8217;s probably the case of some one using the controversy in this deal to make some quick (huge) profits. Some one is feeding the media with news. They might be called spin doctors. </p>
<p>We the citizens are just being take for a joyride. No much point keep a close eye on it. Even the names appearing in the papers are just pawns for a bigger chess games. I have lost confidence to say the least in this deal. I was hoping and dreaming of a Malaysian good quality volkswagen (folk wagon i.e. ppl can afford). I think some one said before &#8220;it&#8217;s the malaysian was, or leave the country&#8221;, in terms of car, i will look towards Jap or Europe cars. No local or china cars for me</p>
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		<title>By: normaluser</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-77981</link>
		<dc:creator>normaluser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 03:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Protectionism and arrogance has taken its toll againts the average Malaysian car buyers. Now, all my dreams of quality &amp; affordable cars to the masses are shattered. So dissapointed with how the G and its cronies run this country. If business and politics are mixed together, this is what happened. Rakyat suffered in silence yet some priviledged few became filthy rich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Protectionism and arrogance has taken its toll againts the average Malaysian car buyers. Now, all my dreams of quality &amp; affordable cars to the masses are shattered. So dissapointed with how the G and its cronies run this country. If business and politics are mixed together, this is what happened. Rakyat suffered in silence yet some priviledged few became filthy rich.</p>
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		<title>By: nmh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-77979</link>
		<dc:creator>nmh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 03:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proton still interested with chery kot....early before all this partnership crap....can u remember. haha crap. proton better &#039;die&#039;lah. leave p2 alone rebadging toyota and daihatsu for both market, the end</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proton still interested with chery kot&#8230;.early before all this partnership crap&#8230;.can u remember. haha crap. proton better &#8216;die&#8217;lah. leave p2 alone rebadging toyota and daihatsu for both market, the end</p>
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		<title>By: mofo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/03/30/volkswagen-drops-tie-up-plans-with-proton/#comment-77977</link>
		<dc:creator>mofo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 03:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good, here come P1 dive into drain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good, here come P1 dive into drain.</p>
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		<title>By: cyder300</title>
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		<dc:creator>cyder300</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 03:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow it is not surprising at all, anyhoo, as I&#039;ve said earlier, it will be taken over by a local player. Too bad, it could have been better, wonder why they cant do what Perodua did? How hard was that? It appears that it is very hard indeed :( Shame, shame, shame. Malaysia Boleh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow it is not surprising at all, anyhoo, as I&#8217;ve said earlier, it will be taken over by a local player. Too bad, it could have been better, wonder why they cant do what Perodua did? How hard was that? It appears that it is very hard indeed <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  Shame, shame, shame. Malaysia Boleh!</p>
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