Comments on: Volvo to drop R performance badge http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sat, 26 May 2012 02:41:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: proton GL http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81882 proton GL Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:29:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81882 did see red 850 R ,hard to spot here ,yearsss ago. excites me interestingly 240 TURBO, is by R-Sport, see it stamped on the seat, was that it? did see red 850 R ,hard to spot here ,yearsss ago. excites me

interestingly 240 TURBO, is by R-Sport, see it stamped on the seat,

was that it?

]]> By: tenent_ec http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81878 tenent_ec Thu, 12 Apr 2007 17:09:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81878 My family has been using volvo for more than a decade. Starting from 244, 240 GLT(1990-91),740 Turbo Intercooler (1991-2003: brought from UK), 940GL (1997), 940 Soft Turbo (2001-2002), 940 Turbo (2002-2005), S70 2.5 (2002-03), V70 2.0T (2003-05), S70 2.0T (2004-currently) till S80 2.0T(2005-currently). well, rite now i m looking for a V70 T5..since u guyz are talking about "R", i was wondering...is there any V70 R around here?? i have no idea... My family has been using volvo for more than a decade. Starting from 244, 240 GLT(1990-91),740 Turbo Intercooler (1991-2003: brought from UK), 940GL (1997), 940 Soft Turbo (2001-2002), 940 Turbo (2002-2005), S70 2.5 (2002-03), V70 2.0T (2003-05), S70 2.0T (2004-currently) till S80 2.0T(2005-currently).

well, rite now i m looking for a V70 T5..since u guyz are talking about "R", i was wondering…is there any V70 R around here?? i have no idea…

]]> By: cbljkkj http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81841 cbljkkj Wed, 11 Apr 2007 23:54:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81841 Volvo S60R 0-100km/h Manual Transmission: 5.7secs Volvo V70R 0-100km/h Manual Transmission: 5.9secs Volvo S60R 0-100km/h Auto Transmission: 7.5secs Volvo V70R 0-100km/h Auto Transmission: 7.7secs Volvo S60R 0-100km/h Manual Transmission: 5.7secs

Volvo V70R 0-100km/h Manual Transmission: 5.9secs

Volvo S60R 0-100km/h Auto Transmission: 7.5secs

Volvo V70R 0-100km/h Auto Transmission: 7.7secs

]]> By: proton GL http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81831 proton GL Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:20:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81831 is it v70r dash to 100kmh, in 7.4 sec, ? is it v70r dash to 100kmh, in 7.4 sec, ?

]]> By: cbljkkj http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81780 cbljkkj Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:04:41 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81780 The V70R is also a hefty beast weighing in at 3646 pounds but the point i would like to stress is that it is only utilizing a turbocharged 2.5-liter five-cylinder 300 hp/295 lb-ft engine and cars like the M5 use 5 litre 507hp V10. The V70R is also a hefty beast weighing in at 3646 pounds but the point i would like to stress is that it is only utilizing a turbocharged 2.5-liter five-cylinder 300 hp/295 lb-ft engine and cars like the M5 use 5 litre 507hp V10.

]]> By: hondadriver http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81508 hondadriver Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:42:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81508 anyways, despite weight saving measures, the M5 and M6 are still pretty hefty cars in the weight dept. more than 1.5 tons. on another note, i dont think an E36 328i is a good comparison with an 850T5. the 328i only makes 193hp. anyways, despite weight saving measures, the M5 and M6 are still pretty hefty cars in the weight dept. more than 1.5 tons.

on another note, i dont think an E36 328i is a good comparison with an 850T5. the 328i only makes 193hp.

]]> By: cbljkkj http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81499 cbljkkj Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:07:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81499 hondadriver: I was merely trying to draw a line between a super-car in its own right and a super saloon/wagon. I am aware that cars like the Subaru Forester and Audi Avant Wagons. My uncles got a Forester himself. hondadriver:

I was merely trying to draw a line between a super-car in its own right and a super saloon/wagon.

I am aware that cars like the Subaru Forester and Audi Avant Wagons. My uncles got a Forester himself.

]]> By: 4G63T DSM http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81495 4G63T DSM Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:42:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81495 The 850 T5R is the fastest/quickest wagon in the world when it was launched. These things were quick, and un-restricted. Once, many many moons ago, a E36 328 owner got to find out rather embarasingly just how quick these are on the highway, and that was just a regular T5. Those days the 850 T5 was still a "new" model and rather inconspicuous. The niche category of sport wagons was born due to the popularity of the 850 Wagon. Been shopping around for a good used 850 T5 but since this is a buyer's market, I really dont have a rush to get one. The 850 T5R is the fastest/quickest wagon in the world when it was launched. These things were quick, and un-restricted.

Once, many many moons ago, a E36 328 owner got to find out rather embarasingly just how quick these are on the highway, and that was just a regular T5. Those days the 850 T5 was still a "new" model and rather inconspicuous.

The niche category of sport wagons was born due to the popularity of the 850 Wagon.

Been shopping around for a good used 850 T5 but since this is a buyer's market, I really dont have a rush to get one.

]]> By: hondadriver http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81412 hondadriver Tue, 10 Apr 2007 09:14:19 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81412 cbljkkj, isnt an "R" badged volvo also essentially a "tuned sports cars from the parent manufacturer." there are also the subaru wagons, as well as the audi 'super' wagons.. cbljkkj, isnt an "R" badged volvo also essentially a "tuned sports cars from the parent manufacturer."

there are also the subaru wagons, as well as the audi 'super' wagons..

]]> By: neurra http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81401 neurra Tue, 10 Apr 2007 06:31:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81401 lmao.. i didn't even know there was the R performance for Volvos.. xD lmao.. i didn't even know there was the R performance for Volvos.. xD

]]> By: cbljkkj http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81398 cbljkkj Tue, 10 Apr 2007 04:03:12 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81398 True a lot of cars can achieve 0-100km/h in 5 seconds or so but what sort of cars are those? People fail to realize this is just a family sedan/station-wagon. The M5/M6/Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution/Jaguar/Insert whatever you like are tuned sports cars from the parent manufacturer. People also have not taken weight into consideration as I'm sure these things are not light in anyway but the other competing models in the 5 seconds range have had some sort of diet program like the Evo had the carbon fibre roof and the M5 and M6 that also had something similar in the weight shaving dept. True a lot of cars can achieve 0-100km/h in 5 seconds or so but what sort of cars are those? People fail to realize this is just a family sedan/station-wagon. The M5/M6/Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution/Jaguar/Insert whatever you like are tuned sports cars from the parent manufacturer.

People also have not taken weight into consideration as I'm sure these things are not light in anyway but the other competing models in the 5 seconds range have had some sort of diet program like the Evo had the carbon fibre roof and the M5 and M6 that also had something similar in the weight shaving dept.

]]> By: tHe CuLpRit http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81397 tHe CuLpRit Tue, 10 Apr 2007 03:58:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81397 gwen in baju kurung.... hmmmm... yea, i got a fetish for chicks in baju kurung, so sue me.. gwen in baju kurung…. hmmmm…

yea, i got a fetish for chicks in baju kurung, so sue me..

]]> By: hondadriver http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81395 hondadriver Tue, 10 Apr 2007 00:49:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81395 i think 0-100km/h in 5.4 secs says nothing much about a cars overall performance nowadays. i think 0-100km/h in 5.4 secs says nothing much about a cars overall performance nowadays.

]]> By: cbljkkj http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81392 cbljkkj Tue, 10 Apr 2007 00:09:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81392 No lah, its just that Volvo has built up a great reputation on their safety and comfort features that nobody takes them seriously about performance because it has become so stereotyped that way. Volvo has at least shown that they can pull off 0-100km/h in 5.4 seconds and that is good enough for me. The target psycho-graphics are more likely to choose it for their safety rather than performance. Most of the time you see moms and dads buying these sort of cars. 0-100km/h in 5.4 secs, nearly M5 and M6 territory. Pretty darn impressive if you ask me. No lah, its just that Volvo has built up a great reputation on their safety and comfort features that nobody takes them seriously about performance because it has become so stereotyped that way.

Volvo has at least shown that they can pull off 0-100km/h in 5.4 seconds and that is good enough for me. The target psycho-graphics are more likely to choose it for their safety rather than performance. Most of the time you see moms and dads buying these sort of cars.

0-100km/h in 5.4 secs, nearly M5 and M6 territory. Pretty darn impressive if you ask me.

]]> By: s60t http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81382 s60t Mon, 09 Apr 2007 23:26:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81382 volvos are safe tough cars.new generation of cars also look stylish compared to the boxy old models.but as a performance car the cornering and handling can't match the BMW's or Audi's. second hand units are relatively cheap to buy compared to other premium brands but beware as parts and repairs can be an expensive affair. volvos are safe tough cars.new generation of cars also look stylish compared to the boxy old models.but as a performance car the cornering and handling can't match the BMW's or Audi's.

second hand units are relatively cheap to buy compared to other premium brands but beware as parts and repairs can be an expensive affair.

]]> By: kei9 http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81348 kei9 Mon, 09 Apr 2007 21:29:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81348 hope to have some magic in their "R" ....... hope to have some magic in their "R" …….

]]> By: ingolstadt http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81339 ingolstadt Mon, 09 Apr 2007 21:02:53 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81339 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ! !! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO since Audi no longer wants understated styling..... Volvo's the last resort........................ NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DOES EVERY CAR NEED TO LOOK LIKE THEY'RE TRYING TO SCARE THE HELL OUT OF YOU TO SELL ? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ! !! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

since Audi no longer wants understated styling….. Volvo's the last resort…………………… NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

DOES EVERY CAR NEED TO LOOK LIKE THEY'RE TRYING TO SCARE THE HELL OUT OF YOU TO SELL ?

]]> By: mystvearn http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81337 mystvearn Mon, 09 Apr 2007 21:01:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81337 maybe people think "R" means fast, fast means dangerous, dangerous means not a volvo? maybe people think "R" means fast, fast means dangerous, dangerous means not a volvo?

]]> By: Cire http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81299 Cire Mon, 09 Apr 2007 19:12:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81299 The R series in the Volvo is actually very respected models. Its a dream to own, and to add to that dream, Volvo brought in just a handful or so units for our shores. Before the Audi quattros comes into play in the BTCC, Volvos 850Ts were dominating the scene. They are fast and furious cars..(* of that era ofcourse). The R series in the Volvo is actually very respected models. Its a dream to own, and to add to that dream, Volvo brought in just a handful or so units for our shores.

Before the Audi quattros comes into play in the BTCC, Volvos 850Ts were dominating the scene. They are fast and furious cars..(* of that era ofcourse).

]]> By: gtmaniac http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81293 gtmaniac Mon, 09 Apr 2007 18:54:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81293 DrM & DtG, Gwen Steffani would looks even more delicous with baju kurung! Kinda like real wolf in sheep clothing... Anyway I agree with protonGL. My opinion is that it is one way of attract real pertolheads to consider to buy them, even if they are not in their wish list in the first place. A letter or two (plus some improvement in looks & power) to differentiate them from the garden-variety would be a good way to boost interest, and not to mention to boost their exclusivity & future value. May be the letter 'R' is a little bit overkill for a volvo. Then, they should consider other letter(s)... which is less 'provocative'. DrM & DtG,

Gwen Steffani would looks even more delicous with baju kurung! Kinda like real wolf in sheep clothing…

Anyway I agree with protonGL. My opinion is that it is one way of attract real pertolheads to consider to buy them, even if they are not in their wish list in the first place. A letter or two (plus some improvement in looks & power) to differentiate them from the garden-variety would be a good way to boost interest, and not to mention to boost their exclusivity & future value.

May be the letter 'R' is a little bit overkill for a volvo. Then, they should consider other letter(s)… which is less 'provocative'.

]]> By: proton GL http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81268 proton GL Mon, 09 Apr 2007 18:08:43 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81268 every car deserve to have this, r, opc, amg, m, r3(oops) ,abarth, etc.. regardless how much peformance they put into,maximum or minumum, its a piece of excitement in automotive world every car deserve to have this, r, opc, amg, m, r3(oops) ,abarth, etc..

regardless how much peformance they put into,maximum or minumum,

its a piece of excitement in automotive world

]]> By: renyeo http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81255 renyeo Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:51:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81255 Maybe to attract a more wholesome group of buyers than Civic Type-R upgraders :) Maybe to attract a more wholesome group of buyers than Civic Type-R upgraders :)

]]> By: DtG http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81253 DtG Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:50:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81253 drM... dressing Gwen Stefani in a baju kurung... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! drM… dressing Gwen Stefani in a baju kurung… HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

]]> By: aesthari http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81242 aesthari Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:35:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81242 Perhaps they need to do something more to give the "R" significance? Like Honda's Type Rs. When you think of it, you think of better engines, suspensions, bodykits, performance bits, lightweight stuff, and less fuss in the interior. Just something to make it break away from the usually family or executive looking Volvos. Perhaps they need to do something more to give the "R" significance? Like Honda's Type Rs. When you think of it, you think of better engines, suspensions, bodykits, performance bits, lightweight stuff, and less fuss in the interior. Just something to make it break away from the usually family or executive looking Volvos.

]]> By: hondadriver http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81212 hondadriver Mon, 09 Apr 2007 16:54:32 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81212 i think the reason is very clear, obviously, the "R" brand isn't working with the kind of customers volvo have. those sales numbers are actually quite low. Another reason could be, that true performance enthusiasts are not fooled by the "R" branding, and still see the cars as just a powerful "volvo" and nothing much else. i think the reason is very clear, obviously, the "R" brand isn't working with the kind of customers volvo have. those sales numbers are actually quite low.

Another reason could be, that true performance enthusiasts are not fooled by the "R" branding, and still see the cars as just a powerful "volvo" and nothing much else.

]]> By: transformer http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81201 transformer Mon, 09 Apr 2007 16:38:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81201 aiks... dashboard bend ???? couldnt imagine that to happen on a continental makes.....??? thirsty are very well known on Volvo! aiks… dashboard bend ???? couldnt imagine that to happen on a continental makes…..???

thirsty are very well known on Volvo!

]]> By: drM http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81200 drM Mon, 09 Apr 2007 16:38:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81200 dropping the 'R' version is something like you want to be in a slower car. why you do that? its like dressing gwen stefani in a baju kurung. its not fun anymore. it is boring. dropping the 'R' version is something like you want to be in a slower car.

why you do that?

its like dressing gwen stefani in a baju kurung. its not fun anymore. it is boring.

]]> By: ckengyo http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81196 ckengyo Mon, 09 Apr 2007 16:32:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81196 my mom after crashed her 740 turbo & upgraded 2 850. but after we know a used unit of 850 t5 r, she trade in & own it. it was a dream at 1st, but later, dont know y the dashboard bend out. may b due 2 the high temperature. the turbo not as efficient anymore. need more petrol 2 push & very thirsty. later trade in 4 a used s60t5. my mom after crashed her 740 turbo & upgraded 2 850. but after we know a used unit of 850 t5 r, she trade in & own it. it was a dream at 1st, but later, dont know y the dashboard bend out. may b due 2 the high temperature. the turbo not as efficient anymore. need more petrol 2 push & very thirsty. later trade in 4 a used s60t5.

]]> By: transformer http://paultan.org/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81162 transformer Mon, 09 Apr 2007 15:41:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/04/09/volvo-to-drop-r-performance-badge/#comment-81162 the previous V70R is superlicious! but never reach our shores... that time(2years ago) my desktop are V70R(in titanium black) picture! Damn cool! i think its a TRUE car! (for me!) i love V70 very much! from LPT to HPT till the extreme R! but the price and rarity keep an average joe away.... sigh! the previous V70R is superlicious! but never reach our shores… that time(2years ago) my desktop are V70R(in titanium black) picture! Damn cool!

i think its a TRUE car! (for me!)

i love V70 very much! from LPT to HPT till the extreme R!

but the price and rarity keep an average joe away…. sigh!

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