WHY? because the ‘sulfur’ or sulfat in BM level is too high in ptronas… and this material is the main cause of engine damage. Ya, up to 0.5% sulfur oxide. Imagine how many you already feed into your car. No wonder their ads keep showing cleaner engine…. ya loo… the sulfur cut engine material maa. Doesnt told you meh!

thats one of reason the fuel not famous aboard. And have to focus on selling syntatic lubricant instead.

Since the ptronas is very large market share in local… wondering what makes this local company digging petroleum from own country… can selling at 1.92 as well.

even in bangladesh, they produca lots of NG gas… those gas are gov harvest and later selling at lowest price. Until most vehicle are converted into ng… imagine how cheap is that.

And why can the petrol we dig from own land cant sell cheap at local?

another concern is that local fuel will be empty in short coming 5-7 years (as i reading a aus review).

April 17, 2007 @ 1:59 pm

I fill up with Petronas. Somehow the Carl Fogarty association and now Sauber etc. have made an impact on me subconsciously. Does it really matter what brand? Would be interesting if there’s a survey here for readers to take.

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kei9 said,

April 17, 2007 @ 3:01 pm

wahtever fuel……….i will say that all are the same.shell, projet or petronas.

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juggernaut said,

April 25, 2007 @ 7:12 pm

FOOOLSSSSS!!!… all fuels are filled at the bloody same depot at port klang….

just different scents…

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Actually, each oil company processes their fuel differently with different chemical mixtures and octane ratings.

The main differences between the companies comes from the actual quality of petroleum they use in the first place, followed by their processing techniques and chemical additives.

Petronas actually drills some of the highest quality petroleum in the world, but they don't use it here. Instead they export it and buy back cheaper oil. This is why Malaysia's oil import is still considered zero although we do import oil.

As for the chemicals, the companies usually have their own criterias and objectives for their fuel. Some want it for milage, some for perfomance and others for other issues. Each of this invokes different chemicals and the chemicals themselves have different quality levels. If I'm not mistaken, one of the chemicals Shell uses is something they call Vapron which is supposed to make their petrol evaporate faster.

This allows those little droplets of petrol in your cyclinder to vaporate and form even smaller droplets, thus making your burning much cleaner and giving you much more power. I think the V in V-Power refers to Vapron (not too sure about this).

Likewise, other companies have other criterias to fullfil and there are many many criterias ranging from power and milage to petrol's lubricative effects.

Regarding fuels being filled in the same depot:

Not all the fuels in the depot are the same. You can store many different fuels in one place yet keep them separated. There's also another depot owned by Petronas near Cyberjaya. I always see Petronas tankers as well as Shell tankers going in and out. Dosen't mean they're carrying the same fuel.

just different scents…

Here in Kota Damansara, there are 2 ProJets. Now with the new deal, there will be 3 Shell stations! Woohoo!

If there's no value to buy ProJet, do you think a few companies will bid for it?

i've experienced this a lot of times…

Primax 3, Shell Super, etc = rm1.92/L

got any difference about the quality of their product mer??

Looks like Shell will continue to lead the market here this year, but Petronas is fast catching up.

Of the three bidders (Thailand's PTT, Shell & Petronas) PTT is the front runner of the pack for the RM700m deal which consist of 147 gas station.

f I were SHELL’s boss, Since Shell already having 830 over station in Malaysia, there are sufficient numbers of station to serve customers already. By adding additional 44 stations from ProJET which most of the station are closed to the existing one is really doesn’t MAKE any sense. Furthermore, Most of the ProJET station I knew are very close to SHell Station. Almost 70% of it

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alo brader do you know what you talking about? petronas station almost double in total compare to shell. plus to build shell petrol station need a approval from petronas top management. now who's monopoly the business?

please do investigation before 'tuduh' other party.

transformer said,

when Shell are building 10 stations nation wide, Petronas are 30!

so who are the one that plays monopoly game… when there are Shell, a Petronas would “guard” nearby…

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totally agree with you about the station

so who are the one that plays monopoly game… when there are Shell, a Petronas would "guard" nearby…

for any average consumer, when there lucky draw, both also can…. Me too!

If got cash to buy V-power is good, but expensive to me, if want budget buy 1 octane booster and add 1 full tank of ron97 fuel. I guarantee your car will fly high.. lol just kidding.. Any brand also can, but i prefer Penzoil. Besides that, check your fuel filter,spark plugs, and also plug cables. Sometime is ur ignition system going crazy but not the fuel.. Anywayz my wira 1.6 auto can get 150km out of RM20 using shell, that RM0.13/km? Felt less compare to my friend kelisa manual, can get RM0.10/km. Damn!

To answer your questions.

1) Expanding? What opportunity being offered to SHell? On the other hand, its only cost SHELL more on operating cost. No business expanding thought. Why having 2 or 3 station at the same location especially on the same side?

2) Honestly, ProJET should have sold it to those who had have no station around or their station are at least 2km away from ProJET's station. You might be correct, Maybe SHELL beat all the competitors by putting a highest offer to PRojet. ProJET had no second choice.

My opinion, after all SHELL moved seems to be moving towards Monopoly business not only for expanding I think. Hey Kawan, Its only my opinion NO OFFENSE Okay! CHeers~

everytime i pump shell, my car like no power like that…and it has lower mileage!!!!

ProJet is one of the better one around… !!!

shell and projet are non-govt private corporations. If projet for whatever reason wants to exit the malaysian market, they put up their assets for sale, and the highest bidder buys it.. for shell and projet, its a win-win.. shell get to expand their business, without having to build new stations, just incorporate the existing projets into their network. projet gets to re-coup some of their initial investment.

If Projet are serious about continuing their business in Malaysia, they wouldnt put up their stations for sale. They are not "forced" to sell to shell. if not shell, someone else would have bought it. We only know the successful bidder which is shell

auctioncenter2u, if you are right, please help me answer these question then…

1) So are shell supposed to ignore this opportunity to expand their business?

2) Should Projet just shut down, and abandon their stations and lose all their money they've invested without selling anything to anyone?

i never try out any Projet because neighbourhood here don't have Projet station. I prefer PETRONAS, feel it gives more power & mileage. My ranking will be1) Petronas 2) Caltex others will only be emergency choice. i use shell before & even my wife can feel the mileage drop & engine less responsive.

Based on my experience, let me share my experience :

Smoothness : Mobil & Esso, Petronas

Value For money : Esso & Mobil, Shell

Performance : Esso & Mobil

** Caltex / BHP / Projet : Not good for my car as it give me rough rides…..

After changing from Iswara to Avanza 2 months ago, I conclude that Shell gives me better mileage and value for money…. as my ful tank for avanza is RM 65 can go up to 450km and more (about RM 0.14/km)…

This is just my 2cents…..

April 17, 2007 @ 10:32 am

Hey Kawan, if you wanna to expand your business you don't have to buy out all your competitors rights? Slowly Buying up your competitors also means Wanna to do MONOPOLY business, Now ProJET, next maybe BP, Next ….. until left SHell could be.