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	<title>Comments on: Datuk Moktar: &#8220;Don&#8217;t entertain scrapping proposal!&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: PTAllTheBest</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/04/26/datuk-moktar-dont-entertain-scrapping-proposal/#comment-84518</link>
		<dc:creator>PTAllTheBest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 03:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scrapping proposal? 
I think it should be entitle for malaysian made cars. 
Just like my Kancil. After 4 years using it always have problem. 
Here broken there broken. The noise even gets louder. 
BTW Mercedes and BMW are still tough even after 15 years old. </description>
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<p>I think it should be entitle for malaysian made cars.</p>
<p>Just like my Kancil. After 4 years using it always have problem.</p>
<p>Here broken there broken. The noise even gets louder.</p>
<p>BTW Mercedes and BMW are still tough even after 15 years old. </p>
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		<title>By: Joe Ooi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/04/26/datuk-moktar-dont-entertain-scrapping-proposal/#comment-84276</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Ooi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 22:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hondadriver, one more point you miss is implement acceptable safety standard in auto industry like NCAP rating or environmental comply. Any unsafe new car like stoneage Iswara milo tin on the wheel should be discontinue production. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hondadriver, one more point you miss is implement acceptable safety standard in auto industry like NCAP rating or environmental comply. Any unsafe new car like stoneage Iswara milo tin on the wheel should be discontinue production. </p>
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		<title>By: hondadriver</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/04/26/datuk-moktar-dont-entertain-scrapping-proposal/#comment-84126</link>
		<dc:creator>hondadriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 12:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>new perdana should be RM28K or lower? 
please dont make brainless comments.  
 
I think we should be looking at scrapping with an open mind.  
Personally, i support a car scrapping policy, but it should be 100% voluntary.  Also, together with this policy, there should be inspections for private vehicles as well, at set intervals.  The inspections should be done to ensure the road worthiness of a vehicle regardless of the age.  I think its only in our own best interests that other cars that share the road with us should be in good mechanical condition. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>new perdana should be RM28K or lower?</p>
<p>please dont make brainless comments. </p>
<p>I think we should be looking at scrapping with an open mind. </p>
<p>Personally, i support a car scrapping policy, but it should be 100% voluntary.  Also, together with this policy, there should be inspections for private vehicles as well, at set intervals.  The inspections should be done to ensure the road worthiness of a vehicle regardless of the age.  I think its only in our own best interests that other cars that share the road with us should be in good mechanical condition. </p>
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		<title>By: nmh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/04/26/datuk-moktar-dont-entertain-scrapping-proposal/#comment-84025</link>
		<dc:creator>nmh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 00:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the roadtax according to vehicle class...not cc...max 2k/annum....not more than this....then proceed </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the roadtax according to vehicle class&#8230;not cc&#8230;max 2k/annum&#8230;.not more than this&#8230;.then proceed </p>
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		<title>By: nmh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/04/26/datuk-moktar-dont-entertain-scrapping-proposal/#comment-84024</link>
		<dc:creator>nmh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 00:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>new perdana shud be 28K or lower...then proceed </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>new perdana shud be 28K or lower&#8230;then proceed </p>
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		<title>By: the man</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/04/26/datuk-moktar-dont-entertain-scrapping-proposal/#comment-83995</link>
		<dc:creator>the man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 22:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah suck the vendor....proton/p2 price always going up.....becoz vendor all sub con to tier2 vendor...tier2 sub con to tier 3 vendor.....and the list go on.....in the end we pay unbelivable price for stupid cost down vehicle.....even japanese laugh to hear car price in malaysia..... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah suck the vendor&#8230;.proton/p2 price always going up&#8230;..becoz vendor all sub con to tier2 vendor&#8230;tier2 sub con to tier 3 vendor&#8230;..and the list go on&#8230;..in the end we pay unbelivable price for stupid cost down vehicle&#8230;..even japanese laugh to hear car price in malaysia&#8230;.. </p>
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		<title>By: tokmoh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/04/26/datuk-moktar-dont-entertain-scrapping-proposal/#comment-83871</link>
		<dc:creator>tokmoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 13:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Japan is one of them, as that S&#039;gor assc guy said. Meanwhile, our neighbor also hv COE per car system, where after ten years, they need to renew their COE, else, they cannot drive the car otr. Bt to renew it is extremely xpnsv, it makes more sense to just buy a new car. 
 
You nt satisfy wit ur salary, just &quot;KELUAR DARI MALAYSIA&quot;. If u wish to see Msia improve, just vote the &quot;other&quot; party, got it? Make LKS Msia&#039;s nxt PM or GTFO out of this junk country. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Japan is one of them, as that S&#039;gor assc guy said. Meanwhile, our neighbor also hv COE per car system, where after ten years, they need to renew their COE, else, they cannot drive the car otr. Bt to renew it is extremely xpnsv, it makes more sense to just buy a new car.</p>
<p>You nt satisfy wit ur salary, just &quot;KELUAR DARI MALAYSIA&quot;. If u wish to see Msia improve, just vote the &quot;other&quot; party, got it? Make LKS Msia&#039;s nxt PM or GTFO out of this junk country. </p>
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		<title>By: epalhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>epalhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Screw the vendor.............selfish scumbag. 
excuse that they have is that...&quot;other country has done the move long time ago&quot; 
Screw you. which country? Japan? UK? 
imagine these... 
through my experience working in the UK...(although x sampai one yr) but still i wanna share the experience.. 
my salary there they pay weekly. when comes to interview they allways offer salary per year like 50K/annum etc.... 
 
Proton Impian (WAJA) cost &#194;&#163;11000 
my salary per month after deduction income tax is &#194;&#163;3000 
 
Here my salary is RM 3500/month 
Waja cost me RM60000 
 
Can u all spot the different? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Screw the vendor&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.selfish scumbag.</p>
<p>excuse that they have is that&#8230;&quot;other country has done the move long time ago&quot;</p>
<p>Screw you. which country? Japan? UK?</p>
<p>imagine these&#8230;</p>
<p>through my experience working in the UK&#8230;(although x sampai one yr) but still i wanna share the experience..</p>
<p>my salary there they pay weekly. when comes to interview they allways offer salary per year like 50K/annum etc&#8230;.</p>
<p>Proton Impian (WAJA) cost &Acirc;&pound;11000</p>
<p>my salary per month after deduction income tax is &Acirc;&pound;3000</p>
<p>Here my salary is RM 3500/month</p>
<p>Waja cost me RM60000</p>
<p>Can u all spot the different? </p>
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		<title>By: hameed koyakuti</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/04/26/datuk-moktar-dont-entertain-scrapping-proposal/#comment-83849</link>
		<dc:creator>hameed koyakuti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what they suggessted is how to move forward since 660k used cars are stucked and are not selling. 
 
Scapping of old ( unroadwortiness ) cars is good. By this it can generate volume and momentum of a developed economy. It should be observed with car price tremendous reduction ie Wira around RM 10~15k. Environment factor is also been taken into consideration ( exhaust emission ).  
 
Datuk Mokhtar is only looking on a short term basis. I believe, one its get the nod, a lot of other things will need to be change as well.  
 
Old / classic cars will still be allowed to be driven, but the cost of possessing it will be higher. This is due to sentimental value etc. I think the gomen wil introduce higher roadtax for this or restricted weekend roadtax only....... 
 
Malaysia Boleh maaaa...........Scrap or no scrap..........Lets go Ijok...!!!!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what they suggessted is how to move forward since 660k used cars are stucked and are not selling.</p>
<p>Scapping of old ( unroadwortiness ) cars is good. By this it can generate volume and momentum of a developed economy. It should be observed with car price tremendous reduction ie Wira around RM 10~15k. Environment factor is also been taken into consideration ( exhaust emission ). </p>
<p>Datuk Mokhtar is only looking on a short term basis. I believe, one its get the nod, a lot of other things will need to be change as well. </p>
<p>Old / classic cars will still be allowed to be driven, but the cost of possessing it will be higher. This is due to sentimental value etc. I think the gomen wil introduce higher roadtax for this or restricted weekend roadtax only&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Malaysia Boleh maaaa&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..Scrap or no scrap&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.Lets go Ijok&#8230;!!!!!! </p>
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		<title>By: Infinitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Infinitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bullshit idea. Datuk Mokhtar..i sure vote you hehe.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bullshit idea. Datuk Mokhtar..i sure vote you hehe.. </p>
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		<title>By: BettaSplendens</title>
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		<dc:creator>BettaSplendens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Executor:  &#226;&#8364;&#339;Selangor Car Dealers and Credit Companies Association&#226;&#8364;(??) 
Mastermind:  P1 
Objective:  Clear stock &amp; SUCK more money frm rakyat </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Executor:  &acirc;&euro;&oelig;Selangor Car Dealers and Credit Companies Association&acirc;&euro;(??)</p>
<p>Mastermind:  P1</p>
<p>Objective:  Clear stock &amp; SUCK more money frm rakyat </p>
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		<title>By: ergo_etc</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/04/26/datuk-moktar-dont-entertain-scrapping-proposal/#comment-83828</link>
		<dc:creator>ergo_etc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>indecent proposal! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>indecent proposal! </p>
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		<title>By: azrai</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/04/26/datuk-moktar-dont-entertain-scrapping-proposal/#comment-83810</link>
		<dc:creator>azrai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 08:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Illogical proposal. </description>
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		<title>By: azrai</title>
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		<dc:creator>azrai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 08:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Illilogical proposal. </description>
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		<title>By: tokmoh</title>
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		<dc:creator>tokmoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 03:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm......this is a bit tough for me. On one side, I agree the need to scrap those rly, rly old mobile rusty junks I see once in a while (or should it be a common sight?), bt if some are gud enuf like the Mercedes which the 5th Gear gal tested, why scrap that one? At this point, it may nt be appealing to this country then. 
 
Bt I dun like this Kinabatangan guy either, to totally ignore this proposal is kinda absurb to me, is he to tell me SG n Japan, two far more advanced countries than ours, are wrong to implement that scrapping policy? Besides, you&#039;ll get RM5k incentive to scrap them, surely, that&#039;s nt &quot;forcing&quot;, that&#039;s &quot;encouraging&quot; for the better. 
 
IMHO, there is a need to constantly check cars ageing more than 15 years old, say, annually? This looks like a job for PUSPAKOM, so long they are nt in a position to pose any danger to other road users, they should be allowed to be otr. Else, obliterate them. They&#039;re a sickening sight for a petrolhead like me, so much that I feel like bazooka-ing them on the spot whenever I see them. 
 
In the end, both sides lose my support. Neither&#039;s bad, bt neither&#039;s appealing either way. Bt even then, my suggestion isn&#039;t that great either cuz *cough* PUSPAKOM *cough* are the most &quot;reliable&quot; body in this country. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm&#8230;&#8230;this is a bit tough for me. On one side, I agree the need to scrap those rly, rly old mobile rusty junks I see once in a while (or should it be a common sight?), bt if some are gud enuf like the Mercedes which the 5th Gear gal tested, why scrap that one? At this point, it may nt be appealing to this country then.</p>
<p>Bt I dun like this Kinabatangan guy either, to totally ignore this proposal is kinda absurb to me, is he to tell me SG n Japan, two far more advanced countries than ours, are wrong to implement that scrapping policy? Besides, you&#039;ll get RM5k incentive to scrap them, surely, that&#039;s nt &quot;forcing&quot;, that&#039;s &quot;encouraging&quot; for the better.</p>
<p>IMHO, there is a need to constantly check cars ageing more than 15 years old, say, annually? This looks like a job for PUSPAKOM, so long they are nt in a position to pose any danger to other road users, they should be allowed to be otr. Else, obliterate them. They&#039;re a sickening sight for a petrolhead like me, so much that I feel like bazooka-ing them on the spot whenever I see them.</p>
<p>In the end, both sides lose my support. Neither&#039;s bad, bt neither&#039;s appealing either way. Bt even then, my suggestion isn&#039;t that great either cuz *cough* PUSPAKOM *cough* are the most &quot;reliable&quot; body in this country. </p>
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		<title>By: ingolstadt</title>
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		<dc:creator>ingolstadt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cars that should be scrapped? 15 year old? YES!!  
 
BUT ONLY CARS THAT ENDED UP IN 2nd CAR DEALERS THAT ARE 15 YEAR OLD, and they are willing to give it up for some fast cash vouchers. 
 
YOU CAN&#039;T FORCE PEOPLE TO GIVE UP THEIR CARS. BUT YOU CAN GIVE 2nd CAR DEALERS RM5000 FOR SCRAPPING THEIR STUPID JUNKS AND ASK THEM BUY PROTONS INSTEAD AND SELL PROTONS.  
 
THAT WOULD GIVE PROTON A SURVIVING EDGE, AND CAR DEALERS WOULD BE HAPPY FOR THEIR JUNKS AND PEOPLE COULD BUY PROTON AT CHEAPER PRICES WHEN ECONOMIES OF SCALE HAPPENS, AND CAR DEALERS RACE TO SELL THEIRS OFF.  
 
I just bought my 10 year old Audi, and i had a 7 year repayment. And that thing could last another 20 years if i take good care of it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cars that should be scrapped? 15 year old? YES!! </p>
<p>BUT ONLY CARS THAT ENDED UP IN 2nd CAR DEALERS THAT ARE 15 YEAR OLD, and they are willing to give it up for some fast cash vouchers.</p>
<p>YOU CAN&#039;T FORCE PEOPLE TO GIVE UP THEIR CARS. BUT YOU CAN GIVE 2nd CAR DEALERS RM5000 FOR SCRAPPING THEIR STUPID JUNKS AND ASK THEM BUY PROTONS INSTEAD AND SELL PROTONS. </p>
<p>THAT WOULD GIVE PROTON A SURVIVING EDGE, AND CAR DEALERS WOULD BE HAPPY FOR THEIR JUNKS AND PEOPLE COULD BUY PROTON AT CHEAPER PRICES WHEN ECONOMIES OF SCALE HAPPENS, AND CAR DEALERS RACE TO SELL THEIRS OFF. </p>
<p>I just bought my 10 year old Audi, and i had a 7 year repayment. And that thing could last another 20 years if i take good care of it. </p>
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		<title>By: Notoriez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Notoriez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hail Datuk Mokhtar.. 
 
You guys must be wondering why does he opposed the Selangor Car Dealers and Credit Companies Association proposal to scrap those 15 year old cars right? As Datuk Mokhtar hailed from Sabah like myself, he knew that most Sabahan currently are driving old cars especially those poor people lived in the Kampungs and youngsters who likes to mod their old toyotas, nissans and hondas to use it in for their daily chores. So maybe it&#039;s either he really understand the rakyat&#039;s feelings or just said those remarks to gain votes from poor sabahans in the coming elections. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hail Datuk Mokhtar..</p>
<p>You guys must be wondering why does he opposed the Selangor Car Dealers and Credit Companies Association proposal to scrap those 15 year old cars right? As Datuk Mokhtar hailed from Sabah like myself, he knew that most Sabahan currently are driving old cars especially those poor people lived in the Kampungs and youngsters who likes to mod their old toyotas, nissans and hondas to use it in for their daily chores. So maybe it&#039;s either he really understand the rakyat&#039;s feelings or just said those remarks to gain votes from poor sabahans in the coming elections. </p>
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		<title>By: cyborgx</title>
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		<dc:creator>cyborgx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT IS SO OBVIOUS THAT THE CAR INDUSTRY IS DESPERATE FOR SALES. YET, IT&#039;S THE BEST TIME THAT WE, THE CONSUMER TO FIGHT BACK AGAINST THOSE BLOOD SUCKING PARASITES THAT HAVE BEEN SUCKING OUR BLOOD FOR 20 YEARS.  
 
UNREASONABLE HIGH DUTIES IMPOSED ON IMPORTS, LOW QUALITY JUNKS THAT THESE PPL FORCE INTO OUR THROAT. I SAY TOTALLY BOIKOT BUYING NEW/USED CARS NOW FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT IS SO OBVIOUS THAT THE CAR INDUSTRY IS DESPERATE FOR SALES. YET, IT&#039;S THE BEST TIME THAT WE, THE CONSUMER TO FIGHT BACK AGAINST THOSE BLOOD SUCKING PARASITES THAT HAVE BEEN SUCKING OUR BLOOD FOR 20 YEARS. </p>
<p>UNREASONABLE HIGH DUTIES IMPOSED ON IMPORTS, LOW QUALITY JUNKS THAT THESE PPL FORCE INTO OUR THROAT. I SAY TOTALLY BOIKOT BUYING NEW/USED CARS NOW FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL! </p>
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		<title>By: NeedGoodCar</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/04/26/datuk-moktar-dont-entertain-scrapping-proposal/#comment-83760</link>
		<dc:creator>NeedGoodCar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i fully support to scrap cars over 15 years old, or even shorter period. BUT the car prices must be reasonable and so that rakyat can afford them. 
 
&quot;Selangor Car Dealers and Credit Companies Association&quot;??? they also want to survive what, they also need to feed their loved ones what, why do they care about you??? 
 
all this crap would not be here if not for P1 and its partner, the nap, when the prices are artificially inflated, at the end, when the market force comes, this is what happens to 2nd hand car, to solve the problem? look no further, the root is...  u and i and all of us know. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i fully support to scrap cars over 15 years old, or even shorter period. BUT the car prices must be reasonable and so that rakyat can afford them.</p>
<p>&quot;Selangor Car Dealers and Credit Companies Association&quot;??? they also want to survive what, they also need to feed their loved ones what, why do they care about you???</p>
<p>all this crap would not be here if not for P1 and its partner, the nap, when the prices are artificially inflated, at the end, when the market force comes, this is what happens to 2nd hand car, to solve the problem? look no further, the root is&#8230;  u and i and all of us know. </p>
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		<title>By: thaya79</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/04/26/datuk-moktar-dont-entertain-scrapping-proposal/#comment-83753</link>
		<dc:creator>thaya79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if cars are subjected to be scrapped in 15 years,car will be valued much lesser in the market  than now 
meaning by the time your car is lets say 7 years old.. it will drop drastically to less than half of the original purchase price.. and the loan amout will be much more...in fact its already happening now.. 
Cars prices in malaysia is so hyped up that the moment its out of the show room immediately the resale value drops approx 10 - 20k, which means the car price minus the 10k is actually is the price of the car... 
basically this is everyone&#039;s problem. we need to realise why is this happening to us? why are we allowing this thing to happen? is having a little luxury a meant for the rich only? 
cars in UK and US are considered really cheap if you look dollar: dollar... 
 
A fren of mine bought a  secondhand Porsche GT( he was a student and got AP) used it for couple of years and shipped it back to malaysia, and he eventually sold it for much more value than he originally bought the car.. 
basically this what is happening to us, the big business men buys the cars for cheaper price and sell them for 100% more.i bet they still can make 50% even after minus the costs of shpping and taxes..think abt it guys </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if cars are subjected to be scrapped in 15 years,car will be valued much lesser in the market  than now</p>
<p>meaning by the time your car is lets say 7 years old.. it will drop drastically to less than half of the original purchase price.. and the loan amout will be much more&#8230;in fact its already happening now..</p>
<p>Cars prices in malaysia is so hyped up that the moment its out of the show room immediately the resale value drops approx 10 &#8211; 20k, which means the car price minus the 10k is actually is the price of the car&#8230;</p>
<p>basically this is everyone&#039;s problem. we need to realise why is this happening to us? why are we allowing this thing to happen? is having a little luxury a meant for the rich only?</p>
<p>cars in UK and US are considered really cheap if you look dollar: dollar&#8230;</p>
<p>A fren of mine bought a  secondhand Porsche GT( he was a student and got AP) used it for couple of years and shipped it back to malaysia, and he eventually sold it for much more value than he originally bought the car..</p>
<p>basically this what is happening to us, the big business men buys the cars for cheaper price and sell them for 100% more.i bet they still can make 50% even after minus the costs of shpping and taxes..think abt it guys </p>
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		<title>By: Joe Ooi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/04/26/datuk-moktar-dont-entertain-scrapping-proposal/#comment-83737</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Ooi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 22:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really want and think of every possible way to suck rakyat for usage of car&#039;s life cycle from &quot;cradle to grave&quot;. Now they want to &quot;peg&quot; the car to &quot;grave&quot; at 15 years to force rakyat to buy new P1.  
 
Do these Car Dealers and car loan provider have any credential or technical knowledge pertaining to &quot;safe and road worthy car&quot;? 
 
STOP THE BUYING, STOP THE SUCKING? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really want and think of every possible way to suck rakyat for usage of car&#039;s life cycle from &quot;cradle to grave&quot;. Now they want to &quot;peg&quot; the car to &quot;grave&quot; at 15 years to force rakyat to buy new P1. </p>
<p>Do these Car Dealers and car loan provider have any credential or technical knowledge pertaining to &quot;safe and road worthy car&quot;?</p>
<p>STOP THE BUYING, STOP THE SUCKING? </p>
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		<title>By: kei9</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/04/26/datuk-moktar-dont-entertain-scrapping-proposal/#comment-83736</link>
		<dc:creator>kei9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 22:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>u know i think dat they want us to buy proton cars only.........n how bout the well cared cars? i think that they have to have a car checking policy.......... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>u know i think dat they want us to buy proton cars only&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;n how bout the well cared cars? i think that they have to have a car checking policy&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. </p>
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		<title>By: intermilan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/04/26/datuk-moktar-dont-entertain-scrapping-proposal/#comment-83734</link>
		<dc:creator>intermilan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 22:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this gahmen aaaa... very kejam one..  
 
woi!! lu ingat kami ni bodoh sangat ka tak tau &#039;baca&#039; lu punya complete vicious cycle in transportation sector? 
 
ini association cuma anjing kurap saja.. buat kerja kotor untuk boss and others for free.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this gahmen aaaa&#8230; very kejam one.. </p>
<p>woi!! lu ingat kami ni bodoh sangat ka tak tau &#039;baca&#039; lu punya complete vicious cycle in transportation sector?</p>
<p>ini association cuma anjing kurap saja.. buat kerja kotor untuk boss and others for free.. </p>
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		<title>By: gigganet</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/04/26/datuk-moktar-dont-entertain-scrapping-proposal/#comment-83729</link>
		<dc:creator>gigganet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Selangor Car Dealers and Credit Companies Association&quot; - what kind of assc is this? got car dealers and credit companies together??? what kind of credit companies i wonder. and they can propose policies to the government? must be very powerful assc. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Selangor Car Dealers and Credit Companies Association&quot; &#8211; what kind of assc is this? got car dealers and credit companies together??? what kind of credit companies i wonder. and they can propose policies to the government? must be very powerful assc. </p>
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		<title>By: cyborgx</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/04/26/datuk-moktar-dont-entertain-scrapping-proposal/#comment-83726</link>
		<dc:creator>cyborgx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;100% agree and support Datuk Moktar!!!&quot; 
 
lol you guys are so easily deceived. 
 
maybe I m oversuspicious or something, Election is coming, hes saying that to gain votes? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;100% agree and support Datuk Moktar!!!&quot;</p>
<p>lol you guys are so easily deceived.</p>
<p>maybe I m oversuspicious or something, Election is coming, hes saying that to gain votes? </p>
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		<title>By: japankiller</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/04/26/datuk-moktar-dont-entertain-scrapping-proposal/#comment-83723</link>
		<dc:creator>japankiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3rd class country but always dream to be like 1st class. Malaysia you are not there yet!!!!still long way to go, may be wait until 2057 lah... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3rd class country but always dream to be like 1st class. Malaysia you are not there yet!!!!still long way to go, may be wait until 2057 lah&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/04/26/datuk-moktar-dont-entertain-scrapping-proposal/#comment-83722</link>
		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If our monthly salary like Japanese where 3 months salary can buy new car then no prob. Here 3 years salary also sometimes not enough. So you want that someone to be in debt all the time then by making it compulsory. Then what about those old kampung people, still moving in old old caruburator cars </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If our monthly salary like Japanese where 3 months salary can buy new car then no prob. Here 3 years salary also sometimes not enough. So you want that someone to be in debt all the time then by making it compulsory. Then what about those old kampung people, still moving in old old caruburator cars </p>
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		<title>By: Malaysia BoXXX</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/04/26/datuk-moktar-dont-entertain-scrapping-proposal/#comment-83713</link>
		<dc:creator>Malaysia BoXXX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a hidden secret why our public transport system is never a priority since about 20 years ago....think about it ! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a hidden secret why our public transport system is never a priority since about 20 years ago&#8230;.think about it ! </p>
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		<title>By: ab</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/04/26/datuk-moktar-dont-entertain-scrapping-proposal/#comment-83710</link>
		<dc:creator>ab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>come on, this is a scam by the govt to force all the &#039;poor&#039; people to get rid of their old cars so that they will buy new protons... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>come on, this is a scam by the govt to force all the &#039;poor&#039; people to get rid of their old cars so that they will buy new protons&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/04/26/datuk-moktar-dont-entertain-scrapping-proposal/#comment-83702</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now Proton regret la why they made their cars (year 1990~2000) so good quality and can last until today still running good on the road :) 
 
So in order to secure the Proton business in future, all new Proton should be produced in such a way it will &quot;reput&quot; within 15 years. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now Proton regret la why they made their cars (year 1990~2000) so good quality and can last until today still running good on the road <img src='http://s2.paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So in order to secure the Proton business in future, all new Proton should be produced in such a way it will &quot;reput&quot; within 15 years. </p>
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