And once again.. Never buy P2 as your FIRST car… you’ll be regret especially during ‘balik kampung’ time… and have children at the back…

If as your second/city car… then ok.. cheers… P1 OK… P2 pun ok.. but with reasons… Your Money..You Decide!

For normal user who want less fuss i prefer timing belt. Correction “timing chain”

i prefer timing chain..

Timing belt are better for ppl who want performance. If u want to mode your cam into racing i prefer timing belt. But you need to change it every 100,000km. That the cost. Is what you need, for a toyota or daihatsu normal car i dont think you are gonna mode it into a stock racing car izzit? If u want to race why not buy sport cars to mode..

For normal user who want less fuss i prefer timing belt. Even you say the cost of changing it will be expensive.. but at 250,000km timing belt have to change 2 times already. So the expense add all is almost the same, just that maybe before you reach that amout of km.. the car already sell it or went to scrap already. And i found out that a lot of malaysian dont even know when to change timing belt.. I have saw a lot of car timing belt putus, cam rode spoils and even valve and piston crack… Well i just saw 1 Get.2 a few weeks back just clock 80,000km and his timing belt putus.. And cost him more then RM1000 to make his car running again.. So? Conclution, i prefer timing chain for normal used cars with less fuss.. If i not mistaken, Nissan engine also using timing chain izzit? How’s ur S14? Their timing chain is the best in Japan..

Anywayz VVT technology is old technology already.. I don’t blame if their FC is worst compare to other new engine.. But compare to P1 Campro engine.. is more better then it, Timing chain+VVT. these 2 are already more better then P1 current Campro, unless P1 came out the new CPS engine to test..
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pls dont say VVti la…
u think ur myvi is toyota ka??? DVVt la
most of ppl know about it.. esp japs car followers.. but for those who never driven PURE Japanase car… like malyasian who just converting kancil to mira ..or myvito to passo.. surely will impressed w perodua products… pity malaysian japanese wannabe… this kind of ppl “kagum” with words of Dvvt /vvti/ whatever ( that y original passo/siriom/boom hv no DVVT /VVTi emblem sticker at the car.. but Myvi /Kembara does… they hv BIG DVVT emblem and u can see from 1 km fdistance..prrrfthhh)… and assuming this is new tech from Japan

anyway.. timing chain hs pro/con… old Toyota UNSER oso using Timing chain…prrrfthhh

A lot of ppl think that turbo=Bad FC, WRONG! low pressure turbo=Good FC! Coz they kick in a lot of Torque at low rpm, When u have a lot of power you dont need to push hard on the pedal to get the speed.. A lot of ppl complain turbo easy to spoil.. Have u seen a Volvo low pressure turbo car rosak turbo? If the turbo quality is good and regular service it can last more then 10 years.. I have driven my friend’s daddy Volvo S60 2.0T, Well shocking is that his car is powerfull and more better FC then P1 Perdana.. his car only take 16-18 cents/KM. Using Rm20 i can get 150++KM on highways and city a bit low 110++KM.. Coz volvo cars are heavy to accelerate.. That why i want to mod my kancil to turbo.. In this website you can compare the VVT/Turbo technologies. Eventually turbo save more then VVT over vehicle lifetime by 600$US..
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/tech_engine_more.shtml#vvt

I own a kancil turbo, and i can say the FC save more then the normal caburrated engine.. But i think myvi auto gearbox ratio must be altered or remapping of the ECU again to match Malaysian ppl driving style… Sometime P2 just take everything from Japan and used it.. that why some ppl don’t like it.. But before seeing them complaining about FC, i saw a lot of ppl putting 17′ big rims in their myvi.. Well for only 1.3L i dont think they have the performance like a Skyline izzit? Even Skyline only use 17′ as standard..
well i have some website to show how to improve FC.. Driving habits is the one that can coz a lot of damage..

“Aggressive driving (speeding, rapid acceleration and braking) wastes gas. It can lower your gas mileage by 33 percent at highway speeds and by 5 percent around town. Sensible driving is also safer for you and others, so you may save more than gas money.” http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/driveHabits.shtml

well see it? Aggressive driving can lower your gas mileage by 33%.. I don’t make this out.. but is from the website..

It won’t be pisang goreng panas like MyVI. that was a one-off coz people negative sentiments against potong and euphoria on availability of affordable ‘latest’ and ‘amazing’ tech i.e. VVT was very high.

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agree w u.. if u ask perodua customer service.. Bad FC is the most complaint issue from customer..
Y??
Because ppl were expecting dvvt =Good FC ..Now they realise and feel like been cheated by perodua salesman..

prrrfthhhh

but viva most probably gonna further canibalise sale of lower-end potong models like saga, iswara and wira if price competitively.

God luck potong on fighting the losing battle with P2.

Naza Suria (1.1 Auto, I believe No Airbags, ABS) is also priced at RM45K.

I believe, the top-of-the-line Viva (1.0 Auto, Dual Airbags, ABS) will be priced around RM45K.

There are much cheaper Superminis out there (Sutera, QQ etc…)
In terms of pricing, lets see how this car is priced. We’ll wait and see. But if it is priced at RM45K, it will almost be the same price as a Myvi 1.3 Manual. UGHHHHHHH!!!

Agree with you on “purchase and sales department”.

As for Turbo Charged Kancil, Me to like to have one as my weekend ride. But that doesn’t meant i must loose my right to complain on what Perodua is doing to Rakyat Malaysia (by launching obsolete model).

peYno said,

i was talking about Mira as compony car …
In Japan they hv alot of option (K car) .. why most of them choose Mira as company car and not other K cars???

because , most of japs ppl don’t wanna own it ..prrrrfthhhh

Well the company purchase and sales department has the decision to choose the best.. I don’t think they are forced to buy it? But i think is the price war that determine the car’s..

Forza Ferrari……..

American muscles, conti cars, Japs speedsters, Koreans junkies, Msian tin milos, all crappppp……………make cars with passion, hehehe, JC think Britons are better manufacturer, talk kock only, no action, thats why all British manufacturers sold to foreigners, they talk talk talk only…………

you don’t even own a car?

i was talking about Mira as compony car …
In Japan they hv alot of option (K car) .. why most of them choose Mira as company car and not other K cars???

because , most of japs ppl don’t wanna own it ..prrrrfthhhh

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Are you sure?

Oh sorry PeYno.. Actually K-car in Japan save a lot of tax, parking fees.. that why is a lot of company buy that car…
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i was talking about Mira as compony car …
In Japan they hv alot of option (K car) .. why most of them choose Mira as company car and not other K cars???

because , most of japs ppl don’t wanna own it ..prrrrfthhhh

Well when u and ur co-workers r bored on driving the stupid car, sure will say stupid things on it (Just like me bored driving my father’s wira); Coz u cant drive something better in Japan is it?
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off topic,
i owned nissan silvia s14… that mira was my part time job’ company car

Oh sorry PeYno.. Actually K-car in Japan save a lot of tax, parking fees.. that why is a lot of company buy that car… Well my friend in Hokkaido Working as an engineer driving his company car which is a Subaru Forester to work in highlands to maintain power supply generators.. I don’t think he complain so much, but he said to me Wow! You should get 1 and is cost cheap in Japan (But in reality in Malaysia, AP cars are $$$)…
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ur freind said “WOW” becoz he tot Mira =Viva… actually viva is DOWNGRADED version of mira… if i felt original Mira =cheapo plastic and crap car… the new viva wud be even teruk(a lot of cut cost terms will be done by perodua..localized parts etc)

ask ur friend… perodua seling Viva 660cc at 28kRM = near to Yen100man
…sure it will make his jaw drop

haha

Basically P2 is doing a great job. Let’s see wonders this coming 10th. So kudos to P2 and as for P1, you are not even in a stupid ppl choice so dun count the smart one ok.

Not let me try… prfffffthhh… cough…cough… damm! I really have no talent on this, am I…sigh*