May 8, 2007 @ 12:28 am

Perhaps you may possess such a mountain-high knowledge pertaining car’s design, technical aspect, headlamps, RnD and price but i am damn bloody sure that you know nothing but shite about the total automotive industry generally and its business particularly. Otherwise you won’t always cry with that all same sounds.

==this boy know nothing much about automotives. he just drive and read car magazines only. u r just giving him some lectures only. u should laugh it when u read his comments. so childish..hahaha…

May 5, 2007 @ 12:17 pm

Bashing from person who hv experienced own the car ( eventho as company car)…

Bashing from person who hv 6 years experienced stay in Japan (perodua car’s country of origin)

Bashing from person who hv alot japanese friends, can read japenese car magazine and can share knowledge about Japs car.. esp. about japanese taste

This is what we called
“EDUCATED BASHING”

prrrfthhhhh

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Heh this pity boy think he’s the only one could rule and bang P2 Viva vehemently with the ‘Japan-experienced credential’ he had. Heh ahoka..iikagenseiyou omei honmani..

You might did honorable job should yourself criticize P2 positively but the way you bang and bash P2 all the way with your ’syok sendiri’ style only reveal the credulous side of you and never sounds to me such as so-called “EDUCATED BASHING”.

Perhaps you may possess such a mountain-high knowledge pertaining car’s design, technical aspect, headlamps, RnD and price but i am damn bloody sure that you know nothing but shite about the total automotive industry generally and its business particularly. Otherwise you won’t always cry with that all same sounds.

Yup i agree that this coming Pro2 model is not that blessed in terms of design but hey boy who cares as long as it can sells and leastwise it meets with Toyota Quality Control which is globally renowned. You always bark noisily that Pro2 lineup models including this coming Viva are Daihatsu re-badged. So what ? I don’t give a shite..Pro2 don’t give a shite..Daihatsu don’t give a shite and after all the majority of Malaysian and Japanese don’t give a damn shite about that. The well-known fact is DMC owns 51% in Pro2 manufacturing arm (this of course included the RnD & styling etc) and TMC on the other hand owns 51% in DMC Japan. So please academically explain what the heck on earth should PERODUA waste the billions of bloody dime and time on developing a different model from scratch whereas they could save that billions and invest it on other significant elements like human capital development, pay the shareholder with handsome dividend, pay the employees with windfall bonuses and the government with great cash. So what do you expect ? Pro2 to produce their own engine, transmission and engine even though they might still not have sufficient technical & technology expertise on that ? Heh boy..boy..face the rationality and embrace the reality.

If you know the automotive industry really well you won’t only bash Pro2 violently for doing this re-badging job. The fact that this ‘thing’ is already widely practiced globally among car manufacturers. How are you going to explain about Suzuki and GM, Renault and Nissan, Ssang Yong and Merc, Audi and Volkswagen, Ford and Mazda, Toyota and Daihatsu (Passo=Boon, Bb=Coo, Camry=Altis, DYna=Hijet, Rush=Beego etc). I reckon one difference is that they might be more developed and advance in terms of design and styling which on some models they change a bit but the rest 100% equivalent except the emblem.

So how are you going to say about this ? Waiting for your cockily so-called “Educated Explanation”

Welcome to the GLOBALIZATION boy..face it and admit it.
Well If you don’t like Malaysian made Pro2 cars..fine. It’s your right and kindly don’t ever buy’em. Here in Japan, if people don’t like any product, just leave it and go for another. That’s it. By then, corporations or manufacturers will be kicked on their arse and conduct necessary measures. You don’t have to bark and shout say nasty needless thing to the shirts or shoes you ain’t buy..so that law applies here too. However in spite of great bashing from you, just want to let you know that Pro2 now is making bloody great cashflow and the one of biggest contributor to the profit and revenues of DMC Japan and UMW Holdings. That’s reflect all…………..

P/s: Even Japanese and English like Pro2 design better than original Daihatsu made but when back in Malaysia, it’s the bloody own people that always throw baseless and credulous says toward the nation’s car manufacturers even some are acceptable and agreeable, most are rubbish and junk. How weird !

Let rationality leads your bloody mind instead of emotionality.

Wakaruka…mada rikaidekinakattara, motto benkyou seiiyaa..

Ijyoudesu.

May 7, 2007 @ 1:59 am

I know that the saga is an old model, but if anyone’s budget to buy a 660 for moderate everyday use, the saga is a better choice i think. Maybe the 660 for office ladies to drive only to work daily can lar. My friend told me the saga is a turnoff for the chicks, but hey, I don’t think the 660 is a babes magnet also right?

==hahaha, have confidence on yourself. not on the car, my friend. right babes doesn’t matter on ur car, and is nothing to do with it. you have to believe me.

May 6, 2007 @ 2:23 pm

After owning a Savvy for almost 2 years, i’ve thought of buying another Savvy. Driving the MYVI feels like S*%T after driving the Savvy. Ya, the parts a expensive compared to other makes, but to me personally i still think its within my budget. And i also agree that some people not only want reliability. Some people want RELIABILITY, PERFORMANCE, and SAFETY all in one package, and when it comes to PERFORMANCE, Perodua vehicles DON’T DELIVER. This is my personal opinion of Perodua: RELIABILITY? YES. SAFETY? DOUBTFUL.

Aiyohh, sorry out of topic lah! Leave Savvy out of this!

==quite agree with u, savvy is out of topic. anyway savvy is better in performance compared to myvi but what about this perodua new model? after all myvi is not a performance car. of course, lots of consumers expect lots from a car. how can they expect a normal car to be a performance car? you can’t expect much safety when driving like hooligans, even from a mercedes. get a reliable car for daily usage is the best to ask for, i believe so. doesn’t care much what brand or country it’s from. right?

May 5, 2007 @ 4:43 pm

People in japan can get reliable car at a cheaper price even though labor cost in their country is damn high. As for the protection, its not as bad as BOLEH land.

==i don’t deny that car price is cheaper in japan. but can u tell me what about those imported models? german, french, etc car price? cheaper than overhere? what about those criteria to own a car overthere such as carpark bay or price, roadtax, insurance and etc? of course their income is higher. but what is the price and requirement to keep an old car? 5 years to be scrap? i believe a certain reasons that their local is selling cheap. am i right?

Aiyohh, sorry out of topic lah! Leave Savvy out of this!

Anyway i just come back from the spare part shop.. They say the plug of all cars including savvy never drop prices.. Who say the plug is cheaper n cheaper? And one more, the secondhand spare part must be cheaper.. But does Japan market have that half-cut? All the savvy spare part must be new.. And new means more $$$..

The more cheaper cheaper spare part? I think is either fake or take other manufacture product.. If you totally buy it from P1 i think it will cost ur head off.. Luckily P1 savvy still got Warranty.. If no warranty i think their head will almost chop off already.. You tot i got no friend pandu savvy? He went into P1 service center each time nearly RM300 just change oil, filter and inspection.. U say chop or not head? Went to road side mechanic, RM150 with AC Delco 5-50 fully-systetic oil… That why a lot ppl don’t want go to the blood sucking P1 service center.. Inside the center, almost 80% of the workers are newbies and a few are seniors.. So? Expensive got warranty, cheap save more..he also tell me that engine problem no warranty in P1 even you service annually.. WTF? Dont believe ask all car users here.. Even some insurance company don’t pay for it..

I’m gonna start passing pop corn n keropok lekor!! Anyone want? Help urself!!

Wow… This is what i call rojak car laa… but 1 thing.. P1 savvy spare parts are damn Expensive! Even the plugs are not the same! So in long run, savvy is not a reliable car.. coz its spare part will be hard to find or very expensive!.. Just like the Tiara.. totally no value! P1 cars are expensive to P2, but when P2 car want to resale, the value is higher then P1 car’s look at his Kelisa and Kenari, now still selling RM22-25K for 01′-03′.. this price is high compare to Saga resale value.. i think it just left RM15-18k.. At 01-03 Saga is over RM30k.. So rethink again..
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savvy spare very expensive… i admit its quiet expensive when savvy just launched time… but now, savvay owner can source spare parts w reasonable price.. and the price going cheaper and cheaper..

i reckon “savvy spare parts so expensive” minded just come from hearsay, story from ur friends, ur aunties and ppl who never owned savvy.

Nowadays all used car price , no matter proton/perodua drop drastically

I think that mira is in waiting list to scrap already.. LOL!
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yeah.. in Japan it will be going to scrap..
but in malaysia it will be launched soon

funny rite

prrrfthhh

May 5, 2007 @ 11:28 am

oh dear.. i found my ShinBun Haitatsu company car picture..miss it so much..prrrfthhh
it was 3 doors car… most of japanese use it as company car
credit to savoc.net
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d92/flyingsavvy/MIRASIDE.jpg

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I think that mira is in waiting list to scrap already.. LOL!

The Savvy’s engine was based on a Renault and it’s chassis was made entirely by Lotus, not Proton and the transmission was also from somewhere else. I’m not saying that Perodua is any better at their designs but anyone else criticizing Perodua and glorifies a Proton inadvertently would mean rendering their very own contradictions as a farce.

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Wow… This is what i call rojak car laa… but 1 thing.. P1 savvy spare parts are damn Expensive! Even the plugs are not the same! So in long run, savvy is not a reliable car.. coz its spare part will be hard to find or very expensive!.. Just like the Tiara.. totally no value! P1 cars are expensive to P2, but when P2 car want to resale, the value is higher then P1 car’s look at his Kelisa and Kenari, now still selling RM22-25K for 01′-03′.. this price is high compare to Saga resale value.. i think it just left RM15-18k.. At 01-03 Saga is over RM30k.. So rethink again..

==why so much nonsense? whether is mira or viva, first thing is it reliable or not? if it is reliable and dependable for daily usage why talk about price. at least time and money can be saved from going to workshop so often. after all face the fact that almost every country have car protection. live with it.”

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People in japan can get reliable car at a cheaper price even though labor cost in their country is damn high. As for the protection, its not as bad as BOLEH land.

May 5, 2007 @ 2:08 pm

e-nabilll said,
May 5, 2007 @ 1:37 pm

badge snobs…really badge snobs…very uneducated customers…ofcourse thy wil give all sort of excuses to justify the car n its high price…bt its so obvious for all to see….
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U r rite
malysian ppl not stupid.. we all know original price of mira in Japan… we all know perodua has no RnD cost to pay ( maybe just need to pay royalty to Japan).. and dvvt is nothing for Japanese..

don’t say this car is high price becoz of DVVT…

==why so much nonsense? whether is mira or viva, first thing is it reliable or not? if it is reliable and dependable for daily usage why talk about price. at least time and money can be saved from going to workshop so often. after all face the fact that almost every country have car protection. live with it.

badge snobs…really badge snobs…very uneducated customers…ofcourse thy wil give all sort of excuses to justify the car n its high price…bt its so obvious for all to see….
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U r rite
malysian ppl not stupid.. we all know original price of mira in Japan… we all know perodua has no RnD cost to pay ( maybe just need to pay royalty to Japan).. and dvvt is nothing for Japanese..

don’t say this car is high price becoz of DVVT…

Bashing from person who hv 6 years experienced stay in Japan (perodua car’s country of origin)

Bashing from person who hv alot japanese friends, can read japenese car magazine and can share knowledge about Japs car.. esp. about japanese taste

This is what we called
“EDUCATED BASHING”

prrrfthhhhh

May 5, 2007 @ 11:41 am

tec96248 said,
oh boy, just don’t think u r the only one have driven a car in japan. do u? by the way, headlamps change the bumper/grille also required to change to suit the finishing line. hmm…..am i rite?
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u might be rite.. i am not the only one hv driven the car.. but i believe those m’sian who were staying in Japan and hv experience drive thiscar might hv different view compared to malaysian who know everything about this car from internet..
simply overrated..

beside headlamp, bumper , perodua oso relocate the plate number that the only thing perodua can do and aprroved by Japanese Bosses

prrrfthhhhh

==hahaha…lol, why prrrfthhhhh??? i didn’t drive this car before when i was in japan. it wasn’t launched yet at that time. my company car was toyota corolla. is not good to tease others who have never driven this car before, coz others who have driven a ferrari would have teased u the same way. oh boyboy don’t be mad. hahaha.

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peYno said,

May 5, 2007 @ 11:47 am

Dear tec96248

i talked alot about this car here.. no need to repeat again n agin

happy reading
http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/01/perodua-viva-d18d-to-launch-on-10th-may-2007/

==why don’t wanna repeat again and again since u have bashed and bashing nonstop. ……….lol.

i talked alot about this car here.. no need to repeat again n agin

happy reading
http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/01/perodua-viva-d18d-to-launch-on-10th-may-2007/

beside headlamp, bumper , perodua oso relocate the plate number that the only thing perodua can do and aprroved by Japanese Bosses

prrrfthhhhh