Comments on: Daihatsu Mira Custom http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sat, 26 May 2012 06:51:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: javed rana http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-526072 javed rana Mon, 05 Sep 2011 11:09:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-526072 How to buy a cheap Mira model of 2007 or beyond. Please guide me into buying any car that gives clear edge on less consumption of petro. How to buy a cheap Mira model of 2007 or beyond. Please guide me into buying any car that gives clear edge on less consumption of petro.

]]> By: Isaax http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-298104 Isaax Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:33:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-298104 Although the interior looks spacious, it's less sportier because of the gear knob.... feels like 1960s! Although the interior looks spacious, it's less sportier because of the gear knob…. feels like 1960s!

]]> By: faten dasuki http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-266388 faten dasuki Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:10:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-266388 what is the price range about? what is the price range about?

]]> By: faten dasuki http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-266384 faten dasuki Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:06:33 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-266384 what is the price range? what is the price range?

]]> By: D-Heart http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-93785 D-Heart Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:51:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-93785 Hey guys. I m a newbie here. I think you all probably made a mistake to assume resemblence of the Perodua Viva to the Daihatsu Mira. Think again. The body line of the Mira is far too streamline compared to Viva. I'll shad some light on this issue. The viva is actually base on the discontinue version of Daihatsu Cuore(1999-2003). Never heard before? Viva is the 5 door version of Daihatsu Cuore. Of course, the Viva have the same engine spec as Cuore. Pening ?..... Well check this out. <a href="http://www.daihatsu.com/catalogue/cuore/spec/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.daihatsu.com/catalogue/cuore/spec/inde...</a> Well....Don't argue with each other. Just.... Happy comparing. Hey guys. I m a newbie here. I think you all probably made a mistake to assume resemblence of the Perodua Viva to the Daihatsu Mira. Think again. The body line of the Mira is far too streamline compared to Viva. I'll shad some light on this issue. The viva is actually base on the discontinue version of Daihatsu Cuore(1999-2003). Never heard before? Viva is the 5 door version of Daihatsu Cuore. Of course, the Viva have the same engine spec as Cuore. Pening ?….. Well check this out.
http://www.daihatsu.com/catalogue/cuore/spec/inde…
Well….Don't argue with each other. Just…. Happy comparing.

]]> By: evaluator.v3 http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-92306 evaluator.v3 Fri, 08 Jun 2007 16:47:24 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-92306 I've noticed a little thing about the Viva's range of engines, and here are my findings: Model EF-VE ED-VE EJ-VE cc 659 847 989 kW/rpm 35/7200 39/6000 45/6000 Nm/rpm 58/4400 76/4000 90/3600 The top-of-the-range EJ-VE is inarguably a tuned version of the EJ-VE found in Myvi 1.0L, with higher power and torque. And it is also the latest generation of 1000cc engines from Daihatsu/Toyota (correct me if I'm wrong). The 850cc ED-VE, in my opinion, is a little mixed-bag. I theorised that ED-VE's roots came from ED-DE, the reduced-displacement version of Kelisa/Kenari's 1 litre EJ-DE. Such theory came from the fact that Daihatsu does not have a 850cc engine since long ago. ED-DE was used in Kancil 850 Automatic (latest model) and Kelisa 850. Now, it is used in Viva, albeit equipped with DVVT. If my theory is correct, then ED-VE would be a slightly inferior engine since it is adapted from the older ED-DE (and thus the EJ-DE). Furthermore, according to official figures, it has fuel efficiency that is lower than the 1 litre EJ-VE (17.4km/l vs. 17.5km/l) despite having lower displacement. This would reinforce the inferiority argument as well. (Again, correct me if I’m wrong.) The 660cc EF-VE is actually the second (or possibly third, if you count EF-VD) latest generation of non-turbo 660cc engine from Daihatsu <a href="http://(http://web.archive.org/web/20041119214445/http://www.daihatsu.co.jp/showroom/lineup/mira/mecha_spec/top_02_01.htm)" rel="nofollow">(http://web.archive.org/web/20041119214445/http://www.daihatsu.co.jp/showroom/lineup/mira/mecha_spec/top_02_01.htm)</a>. However, compared to the Daihatsu's EF-VE, the Viva’s version has lower maximum power (35kW/7200rpm vs. 43kW/7600rpm) and torque (58Nm/4400rpm vs. 64Nm/4000rpm). My question is what modifications or compromises that Perodua engineers have made to result in less maximum power and torque ratings from the original EF-VE? Could the Viva’s EF-VE possibly be made to match Daihatsu’s EF-VE performance (through after-market modifications)? What are the tradeoffs to achieve this? Would be very grateful if someone could shed some light on this. I've noticed a little thing about the Viva's range of engines, and here are my findings:

Model EF-VE ED-VE EJ-VE

cc 659 847 989

kW/rpm 35/7200 39/6000 45/6000

Nm/rpm 58/4400 76/4000 90/3600

The top-of-the-range EJ-VE is inarguably a tuned version of the EJ-VE found in Myvi 1.0L, with higher power and torque. And it is also the latest generation of 1000cc engines from Daihatsu/Toyota (correct me if I'm wrong).

The 850cc ED-VE, in my opinion, is a little mixed-bag. I theorised that ED-VE's roots came from ED-DE, the reduced-displacement version of Kelisa/Kenari's 1 litre EJ-DE. Such theory came from the fact that Daihatsu does not have a 850cc engine since long ago. ED-DE was used in Kancil 850 Automatic (latest model) and Kelisa 850. Now, it is used in Viva, albeit equipped with DVVT. If my theory is correct, then ED-VE would be a slightly inferior engine since it is adapted from the older ED-DE (and thus the EJ-DE). Furthermore, according to official figures, it has fuel efficiency that is lower than the 1 litre EJ-VE (17.4km/l vs. 17.5km/l) despite having lower displacement. This would reinforce the inferiority argument as well. (Again, correct me if I’m wrong.)

The 660cc EF-VE is actually the second (or possibly third, if you count EF-VD) latest generation of non-turbo 660cc engine from Daihatsu (http://web.archive.org/web/20041119214445/http://www.daihatsu.co.jp/showroom/lineup/mira/mecha_spec/top_02_01.htm). However, compared to the Daihatsu's EF-VE, the Viva’s version has lower maximum power (35kW/7200rpm vs. 43kW/7600rpm) and torque (58Nm/4400rpm vs. 64Nm/4000rpm). My question is what modifications or compromises that Perodua engineers have made to result in less maximum power and torque ratings from the original EF-VE? Could the Viva’s EF-VE possibly be made to match Daihatsu’s EF-VE performance (through after-market modifications)? What are the tradeoffs to achieve this?

Would be very grateful if someone could shed some light on this.

]]> By: kei9 http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87818 kei9 Fri, 18 May 2007 14:56:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87818 proton GL said, May 18, 2007 @ 11:39 am honda stream front? nah! more like honda jazz........ proton GL said,

May 18, 2007 @ 11:39 am

honda stream front?

nah! more like honda jazz……..

]]> By: proton GL http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87805 proton GL Fri, 18 May 2007 11:39:48 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87805 honda stream front? honda stream front?

]]> By: albagmane http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87739 albagmane Thu, 17 May 2007 22:20:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87739 brilliant!!! the start/stop button izit mean tat keyless to start the engine? gosh... if so, this is the latest breakthrough for k-cars! brilliant!!! the start/stop button izit mean tat keyless to start the engine? gosh… if so, this is the latest breakthrough for k-cars!

]]> By: ryanregeno http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87730 ryanregeno Thu, 17 May 2007 21:41:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87730 Vey nice car, got passion, sure perodua will copy and paste again, Proton is "National Car" boleh, leran from Toyota, Honda, Mitsubishi...for perodua, listen design your own engine first, already more then 10 years, dont know how to walk ah, may be physical disable lah, kereta cacat. Vey nice car, got passion, sure perodua will copy and paste again,

Proton is "National Car" boleh, leran from Toyota, Honda, Mitsubishi…for perodua, listen design your own engine first, already more then 10 years, dont know how to walk ah, may be physical disable lah, kereta cacat.

]]> By: karl.shamel http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87685 karl.shamel Thu, 17 May 2007 17:24:53 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87685 FYI our Mira based on outgoing Daihatsu Mira Avy/Mira VI. As a comparison we can say this is 'heavy facelift' version like Mercedes-Benz E klasse, Volvo 850/V70, Peugeot 307/new facelift 307 (still a same model 'coz dimensions still similar though rear-end/front-end through TICK makeover. Never dream to have one at least in 6 years time. Actually we 'force' Daihatsu to do this; we accept everything through their representative here P2. If we reject VIVA than possibility to see better model, sooner. FYI our Mira based on outgoing Daihatsu Mira Avy/Mira VI. As a comparison we can say this is 'heavy facelift' version like Mercedes-Benz E klasse, Volvo 850/V70, Peugeot 307/new facelift 307 (still a same model 'coz dimensions still similar though rear-end/front-end through TICK makeover.

Never dream to have one at least in 6 years time. Actually we 'force' Daihatsu to do this; we accept everything through their representative here P2. If we reject VIVA than possibility to see better model, sooner.

]]> By: sxe10r http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87671 sxe10r Thu, 17 May 2007 16:04:07 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87671 New move ??? so P2 Viva copy with mira which generation ?? nvm but at less P2 will sell new model in market .... if P1 .... saga 22year old still selling in market ... wira ... lancer 1994 model already stop since 13 year ... waja almost 7 year still selling wif new grill only ... ... sorry say about P1 i will mad ... This new mira interior nice looking !! like drive in the MPV feel ... but the exterior ... looks same as viva ?? still driving the 660DOHC turbo ?? no enough to boost .... New move ??? so P2 Viva copy with mira which generation ?? nvm but at less P2 will sell new model in market …. if P1 …. saga 22year old still selling in market … wira … lancer 1994 model already stop since 13 year … waja almost 7 year still selling wif new grill only … … sorry say about P1 i will mad … This new mira interior nice looking !! like drive in the MPV feel … but the exterior … looks same as viva ?? still driving the 660DOHC turbo ?? no enough to boost ….

]]> By: Joe v2.0 http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87665 Joe v2.0 Thu, 17 May 2007 15:35:14 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87665 On the 25k per liter of fuel, I really think you will never get it when driving in here. I bet ther tested those figure in Japan in a much milder climate than ours. The heat in our country will give impact on fuel consumption, and IF our local company when bringing in the car and just put up the figure 25k per liter or based on the japan manufacturer testing, than it is just something plain stupid to con malaysian buyers. On the 25k per liter of fuel, I really think you will never get it when driving in here. I bet ther tested those figure in Japan in a much milder climate than ours. The heat in our country will give impact on fuel consumption, and IF our local company when bringing in the car and just put up the figure 25k per liter or based on the japan manufacturer testing, than it is just something plain stupid to con malaysian buyers.

]]> By: punisher http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87664 punisher Thu, 17 May 2007 15:29:33 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87664 the gear is cool,, the gear is cool,,

]]> By: rushmode http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87661 rushmode Thu, 17 May 2007 15:09:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87661 it's not fair to compare this with viva since viva is an older version of mira. but i wish mira have that dasboard.. it's not fair to compare this with viva since viva is an older version of mira.

but i wish mira have that dasboard..

]]> By: kei9 http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87647 kei9 Thu, 17 May 2007 14:21:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87647 sweet........ sweet……..

]]> By: khimfoh http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87646 khimfoh Thu, 17 May 2007 14:21:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87646 Dashboard of the Mira custom looks way more cooler than the that of the Viva Dashboard of the Mira custom looks way more cooler than the that of the Viva

]]> By: BrakeFader http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87641 BrakeFader Thu, 17 May 2007 14:16:45 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87641 It does look like an Astra. Overall it is a great looking car and the interior is more premium looking like from a higher end class. It does look like an Astra. Overall it is a great looking car and the interior is more premium looking like from a higher end class.

]]> By: nmh http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87636 nmh Thu, 17 May 2007 13:57:43 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87636 our viva exterior looks better, mira's interior better than us our viva exterior looks better, mira's interior better than us

]]> By: mystvearn http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87621 mystvearn Thu, 17 May 2007 12:58:00 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87621 looks ok but front grille to much work. Need less work there looks ok but front grille to much work. Need less work there

]]> By: Infinitt http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87603 Infinitt Thu, 17 May 2007 11:55:41 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87603 Nice car, nice interior..by the time P2 going to do reverse engineering to this car, Daihatsu already move to another 1..poor malaysian..always get low cost old type model but with expensive price..viva ?? kusoxxxxtarooo.. Nice car, nice interior..by the time P2 going to do reverse engineering to this car, Daihatsu already move to another 1..poor malaysian..always get low cost old type model but with expensive price..viva ?? kusoxxxxtarooo..

]]> By: aesthari http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87602 aesthari Thu, 17 May 2007 11:51:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87602 Rear lamps and interior is interesting, definitely beats the bland dashboard in the Vivas. Rear lamps and interior is interesting, definitely beats the bland dashboard in the Vivas.

]]> By: eezarm http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87564 eezarm Thu, 17 May 2007 09:40:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87564 cool..i like the interior and rear light...the viva's interior look cheap even for the 1000cc model. I like the steering for this car. it has buttons on it? Wow!!!...a small car but nice! cool..i like the interior and rear light…the viva's interior look cheap even for the 1000cc model. I like the steering for this car. it has buttons on it? Wow!!!…a small car but nice!

]]> By: azrai http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87561 azrai Thu, 17 May 2007 09:32:55 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87561 Ah Bengs' VIVA. Ah Bengs' VIVA.

]]> By: gepochai http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87559 gepochai Thu, 17 May 2007 09:13:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87559 i just saw a ractis somewhere near sentul and jalan pahang a few days back. dunno how me managed to buy it. haha i just saw a ractis somewhere near sentul and jalan pahang a few days back. dunno how me managed to buy it. haha

]]> By: kody http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87544 kody Thu, 17 May 2007 08:22:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87544 wahlaueh... with the FC figure, if we drive here heee... 2 weeks only one time to petrol station. It saves a lot of fuel. wahlaueh…

with the FC figure, if we drive here heee… 2 weeks only one time to petrol station. It saves a lot of fuel.

]]> By: acbc http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87541 acbc Thu, 17 May 2007 08:09:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87541 Can't wait for new owners of Viva to do a full transplant / conversion. Can't wait for new owners of Viva to do a full transplant / conversion.

]]> By: nikanasz http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87533 nikanasz Thu, 17 May 2007 07:52:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87533 58hp from a 660cc engine, that's impressive, even better than kelisa/kenari engine. but what to do, we never get the latest technology here in malaysia. 58hp from a 660cc engine, that's impressive, even better than kelisa/kenari engine. but what to do, we never get the latest technology here in malaysia.

]]> By: normaluser http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87530 normaluser Thu, 17 May 2007 07:50:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87530 sad to see our new local cars are 5-20 years behind.... sad to see our new local cars are 5-20 years behind….

]]> By: transformer http://paultan.org/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87529 transformer Thu, 17 May 2007 07:48:41 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/17/daihatsu-mira-custom/#comment-87529 IMHO, the front looks a bit Astra'ish! seems like some interior bits comes from Ractis/share from! when would Ractis or this Mira reach bolehland ??? IMHO, the front looks a bit Astra'ish!

seems like some interior bits comes from Ractis/share from!

when would Ractis or this Mira reach bolehland ???

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