Comments on: Mid-May 2007 Proton talks update

By: adamccl

adamccl — Tue, 29 May 2007 04:19:44 +0000

Speaking of which, they made a far-fetched promise to me and my 40-over sponsored apprentice coursemates – a job secured for all of us. Now they’re saying that they’ve to release some of us – HAH!
“We have RM…” Nice statement, but is that true now?
Your COE (Centre of Excellence) is a Half-Half actually, outer looks – good, COSE (service side) and Sales (also known as ‘Baiduri’) – HELL! Negative!
And you still want to put us in there? Good! Congrats, you’ll have more technicians (more like “Cherry Tree” Mechanics to me) to ‘lepak’ with you!
Extra – Your technicians said that we’re no good, so what does that mean? Look at your Pre-Delivery Inspection-turned-into-Technicians! One of them don’t even know how to change a bloody steering linkage and they call us a “Don’t-Know”? I WAS THE ONE WHO HAVE TO SHOW HIM HOW TO CHANGE, OR ELSE THE BLOODY WORK WILL BE ABANDONED! Then he was doubtful. Then, when the foreman said it was true, then only he believed. WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?! TRYING TO BE STUPID OR WHAT???
I don’t have hope for you, Proton Edar. I hope you’ll just disappear forever…

By: kei9

kei9 — Sat, 26 May 2007 07:30:49 +0000

yeah! agreed on you….F**k is !@@#$$$%!

By: LittleFire85

LittleFire85 — Wed, 23 May 2007 17:46:42 +0000

Shit is nothing.. but FXXK.. this is rude.. Anywayz just found an interesting book at stores in Popular.. It is very unofficial… “May 13″, just launch few weeks ago.. If want to buy this book went to Popular book store and ask the selling/information account about May13 (no open to public,must ask..), only cost RM20.. I read a few page just now.. The May 13 book is directed by Dr.M to the author to come out this book to warn us that May 13 may come if no take action againts those racism ppl in the parlimen.. Haiz.. I even know our Deputy minister now.. at 1987 support against the Chinese… and actually UXXO the biggest parti in Malaysia planned the May 13 issue.. Why polis and army work so slow? Read the book and guess… Maybe Dr.M don’t want the voters to vote for BN next election.. i think we malaysian ppl should know the truth of racism and discrimination in our own country, just we have been covered by the education minister for a long time… Inside there also got something to do wif our G stupid decision… Haiz..

By: kei9

kei9 — Wed, 23 May 2007 07:31:22 +0000

kaboda….dont use s**t…….there are kid guest here………except me of course…..im in my midteens…

By: kei9

kei9 — Wed, 23 May 2007 07:11:11 +0000

kaboda…….x use the s**t word…hehehe…there are kid guest here…..im not because in in my teens..

By: Kaboda

Kaboda — Wed, 23 May 2007 06:59:36 +0000

I don’t know why we don’t concentrate on doing what we are good at doing. Like Oil palm, just buang this car business for whatever contributes to the nation instead of leeching from it.

And you get these type of comments from Proton, one day its like some Never Ending Story. Same shit different day.

By: johnyong5933

johnyong5933 — Wed, 23 May 2007 05:34:43 +0000

sigh..
they only know how to talk only……….
now people dun even care wat they uttering about…
juz like mosquitoes..

By: LittleFire85

LittleFire85 — Wed, 23 May 2007 03:45:29 +0000

well the non bumi working in P1 is very less… Even the vendors i heard is 30% non bumi’s… They follow the G requirement.. But mostly non bumi are on high rank.. Coz they choose the best from non bumi to work with.. So non bumi not that shame yet..

By: ys

ys — Tue, 22 May 2007 09:49:39 +0000

well digiman, sort of agree with u..
good value company lead by spoilt apples.
but thats what happening in malaysia on all areas.
i am not sure how proton can screw up until become national joke.

pardon me… i just wonder how many non bumi’s in Proton?

By: digiman

digiman — Tue, 22 May 2007 09:32:47 +0000

my 2 cents…

drive up the share price.. so a few shareholder will benefit from the market followers (ie: aunties and uncles who play shares and no knowledge of the proper share trading)…

now drive share price down.. so that when announce of selling price, can claim proton shares sold at a premium (masked benefits) then the premium goes where? that we shall have our own little private opinion that i will not dwell into… and when sold, can claim that new partner paid a higher premium because of higher book value.. say give it another few more months…

why the drag on? i can only suspect of one thing.. clean up the books before future partner send external auditors in…

why drag on also? because couldn’t decide who shall benefit more from it…

poor proton… haih.. company of great value.. lead by spoilt apples.. if only i have the credentials to join a automaking company.. oh well.. life goes on..

oh bla di oh bla da.. life goes on, on na na na na na na na…

By: matomyam

matomyam — Tue, 22 May 2007 02:28:38 +0000

after getting the s 320,,thts the only word tht i can describe proton,shitty,,honest

By: matomyam

matomyam — Tue, 22 May 2007 02:19:09 +0000

“Since Protonâ€™s substantial majority stake is controlled by the government and since the government with the whole system itself is controlled by a bunch of morons”= Malaysian gets to drive shitty cars

By: ys

ys — Tue, 22 May 2007 00:20:38 +0000

talk can still talk… but why not get somebody who very clever to talk… like our “close one eye” MP… i think he can get GM to close one and team up with P1. next he will make sure all tax payer in Malaysia “bocor”… haha…what a joke. shame shame la..

By: torishimeyakuin

torishimeyakuin — Mon, 21 May 2007 14:32:13 +0000

Yeah intermilan, that’s part of what i meant in my previous posting.

Let’s wait and watch their cha-chas and tangos. See how far and for how long they can keep dancing like wolves. Perhaps until their bellies are full enough with the Malaysian people’s monies. Even that is doubtful since they seem never to feel enough heh !

Proton is being abused blatantly by some invincible hands of morons. All those manipulation and speculation only bring more harms but nothing good to the intrinsic value of Malaysian automotive industry generally and the Proton itself particularly.

Dance like a wolf with a foxy move !!

However, i am sure they are several men in the industry aware of this yet the point is whether they can stand tall and face the bloody stinky tide or not. Dubious !!

By: intermilan

intermilan — Mon, 21 May 2007 13:30:43 +0000

‘They’ are on their way to successfully make the share of potong go down. The share now is at 5.30 compared to a high of 8.10 in end of Feb – it has been on the slide ever since. All this done until ‘they’ execute the next course of action.

Their plan gonna work eventually coz they control the time (of annoucing the buyout/merger whatever).

These set of people are one of the many ‘neo-con’ of Malaysia.

By: digiman

digiman — Mon, 21 May 2007 09:29:41 +0000

the most wishful headline ever..

PROTON HAS GONE TO BMW!

BMW DECIDE TO TURN TANJUNG MALIM INTO BMW’S SEA MANUFACTURING PLANT!

PROTON CARS TO BE INSTALLED WITH BMW TECH AND QUALITY!

WAJA TO BE INSTALLED WITH LATEST ENGINE TECH FROM BMW!

GEN2 TO BE TURNED INTO BMW ENTRY LEVEL LIGHT WEIGHT SPORT CAR FOR BMW! FITTED WITH REVOLUTIONARY H2O ENGINE!

MANAGEMENT TEAM OF PROTON NOW FILLED WITH GERMANS AND MALAYSIAN WITH PASSION!

like i said.. wishful… only in dream land that can happen

By: nmh

nmh — Mon, 21 May 2007 07:30:14 +0000

hmm…maybe its just me 2 have bad bad experience with GM product (korean chevy). But i still can trust another american, ford of course. Camon ford take a chance.

By: kei9

kei9 — Mon, 21 May 2007 07:01:18 +0000

thta true Littlefire85….haiz….

By: LittleFire85

LittleFire85 — Mon, 21 May 2007 07:00:09 +0000

If our G got brain sure choose VW, If G only greed.. haiz.. any company who have more cash can get P1 including naza.. This is sad reality to be face in Malaysia..

By: kei9

kei9 — Mon, 21 May 2007 06:40:26 +0000

hahahaha!

By: tec96248

tec96248 — Mon, 21 May 2007 06:29:50 +0000

#
nmh said,

May 19, 2007 @ 7:59 pm

tec96248

yeaâ€¦i agree it might drive like continentalâ€¦but how bout cheap material and safety. Most GM and its korean partner product are the least safe vehicle eg. escalade(please search article), aveo(ncap 0 star), optra(forbes review on US suzuki ver), cheap material issue in most cadillac(JC review in TheGoodTheBad&TheUgly) and many other. I believe that GM just want to make money while VW and other Germans really make car.

==hahaha, mate, u can’t judge the whole by few of its brand or models saying it is cheap in material and safety. even, VW, Merc or BMW don’t hv perfect material and safety. must remember one thing our climate might not suite to their design. what will u choose, if there’s only GM and P1? think…ahahaha.

By: kei9

kei9 — Mon, 21 May 2007 05:56:54 +0000

haiz…………no comment..

By: auctioncenter2u

auctioncenter2u — Mon, 21 May 2007 01:38:25 +0000

>>>Second Finance Minister Nor Mohamed Yakcop. â€œNot yet. I will let you know one day â€¦ just give us a little time. We will resolve it,â€ he said.

By: dcwhz83

dcwhz83 — Sun, 20 May 2007 06:32:02 +0000

If P1 doesnt find a partner soon, P1 wont be in trouble…
its us who will be in trouble! our taxpayers money pour out to the drain… our money eventually goes to the cronies or became P1 junks in the junkyards…

By: LittleFire85

LittleFire85 — Sun, 20 May 2007 06:18:34 +0000

Yup.. that’s why P1 cars are low in quality.. including the new Lotus Europa S Sucks! If u are in the secondhand car market.. you can survey that the quality inside the P1 are cheap plastic, the signal light button on the dash board easily fade out… Even an old Wira dashboard are more better then the Waja, Gen.2, Saga and Satria Neo.. I just don know why the situation is more worst then the first generation of Saga.. Even the door of Waja squeak when open and close… The most problem of P1 is the power window.. if any of you broke them, don’t buy new one from P1.. Better get it from the secondhand parts shop.. The japanese half-cutes are more better then our local new products… Haiz.. this is reality..

By: ckengyo

ckengyo — Sun, 20 May 2007 04:36:08 +0000

Prem3377, we don’t have the scale of economy 2 bargain 4 the part as cheap as what they can supplier 2 other brand. do u know that an old e class parts is more cheaper than a kelisa when this 2 car smash in an accident in reality? the purpose we r buying lotus was bcos pre crisis our big brother Indonesia take over Lamborghini. as u know our nation don’t like 2 left behind since we should b consider as a car nation long b4 Thailand emerging out b4 1997 so it was the only option which proton can afford. talking about lotus’ campro engine when lotus don’t even have their own engine in Elise. they r putting toyota engine in it. y not campro since a lot of local think it as good as vtec from honda? either vw or gm partnership wont get us quality car. cos they have losing a lot of money recently & inorder u success again they need 2 replicate their only formula again, which is low quality car + high price = huge profit. so that they can contributed the money back 2 its founder cum advisor.

By: torishimeyakuin

torishimeyakuin — Sun, 20 May 2007 04:30:46 +0000

Yeah Prem 3377 basically what are you saying is fundamentally right.

Well, it is vehemently sad to see what is happening upon Malaysian automotive industry. All those flaws and illogical absurdness that cloaking the whole industry is crystal-clearly caused by the useless morons’ hands who snobbishly intervened and messed up the things for the sake of their own bloody belly’s.

Malaysia can’t definitely grooms its automotive industry to a very reasonable level or moreover what the folks dream of unless those morons leave all the matters to the eligible experts and men who are purely in the industry to do their jobs.

Nevertheless, this kind of paradigm shift might be such a bloody impossible thing to do as those morons hands have already been stinking and playing the scene since the day one.

I never heard any country’s useless politicians dare to intervene or what else to impose undeniable commands on their national car makers for the sake of their own bloody belly’s.

I’ve never heard any of such a bloody mess intervention in the successful Japanese, Europeans or Americans car manufacturers.

The fundamental element to keep up Proton survival is its leadership and human resources. Proton might probably possess such a good leader of its Managing director, well-trained workers or world class facilities but after all the one who have the ultimate power of maneuvering are the useless morons.

Since Proton’s substantial majority stake is controlled by the government and since the government with the whole system itself is controlled by a bunch of morons, this is what you gonna get folks !!!

By: kevyeoh

kevyeoh — Sun, 20 May 2007 03:37:22 +0000

it’s ok…slowly talk and take your very own sweet time…
doesn’t really matter to me cause i’m eyeing for my next car which will not be a proton…

By: transformer

transformer — Sun, 20 May 2007 01:50:02 +0000

this news would help P1 to get more $
everyone want earn some from shares… so wait to see if P1 share shoot rocket high! HOPEFULLY!!!

few moths later, another makes want also…. zzZ!

By: Prem3377

Prem3377 — Sat, 19 May 2007 20:59:07 +0000

another thing that make me wonder..i am not very sure but its logic if u think about it!!Proton used around rm 500 million to develop proton waja.they have world class r&d facilities and also manufacturing plant!!thy used around rm 100 million to develop proton GEN 2!which shares the same platform with WAJA!!both 1.6 L cars and now price also almost similar!!why did they develop GEN2 then?ok lets forget bout this but if they have the same 100 million the can develop a MPV with waja’s chassis..what is stopping them now?ok lets say its money..if they use the same money which they wanna pay vss for the proton dealers they atleast can develop another right?we have lotus with us so why must we be worried about technological advance cars or engine?ok if you need latest technology products in your car proton can always buy from bosch,siemens and etc.they sell thier technology..even BMW buy from them!!transmission can buy from ZF.sure they have their 5 speed tranny which kinda outdated by now for a bargain price??modern engine..we have campro i mean not what is GEN2 but with similar technology as vvti or vtec!!and one of proton share holder has a super good engine!!Petronas which take years to develop the engines but they sold it to a chinese car manufacturer..so why proton never used it before??something is wrong some where!!!everything is wrong!!!sure there is something to do with the G..anyone know why all this was not possible?and whats the logic behind these?