Comments on: Golf GTI W12 650 Engine Bay http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:18:58 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: kei9 http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88795 kei9 Sun, 27 May 2007 04:34:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88795 hahaha ! if you stamd too close to the fan.....you'll get suck in to it! ugh1 grusome... hahaha ! if you stamd too close to the fan…..you’ll get suck in to it! ugh1 grusome…

]]> By: blazerSST http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88794 blazerSST Sun, 27 May 2007 03:34:58 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88794 Those fans itself must be drawing at leat 2-3 HP each. Those fans itself must be drawing at leat 2-3 HP each.

]]> By: layman http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88793 layman Sun, 27 May 2007 02:44:41 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88793 armandd said, May 26, 2007 @ 7:05 pm we should enjoy the glorious sound of these amazing engines while we still have time, heheh.. ------------------------------------ Yeah you are right, and leave the $hit to the next generation. armandd said,
May 26, 2007 @ 7:05 pm

we should enjoy the glorious sound of these amazing engines while we still have time, heheh..
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Yeah you are right, and leave the $hit to the next generation.

]]> By: AMDunFreak http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88786 AMDunFreak Sun, 27 May 2007 00:52:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88786 look at the air vent at the side of the car... look at the rear bumper...... it's really a masterpiece of design..... what is sucks about our national car? we can't design engine, it's ok, maybe engine is too complicated. we can't design exterior also? well, that not really too good if we can't design exterior...... look at the air vent at the side of the car…
look at the rear bumper……
it’s really a masterpiece of design…..

what is sucks about our national car?
we can’t design engine, it’s ok, maybe engine is too complicated.

we can’t design exterior also? well, that not really too good if we can’t design exterior……

]]> By: PTAllTheBest http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88782 PTAllTheBest Sat, 26 May 2007 21:17:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88782 i know that the veyron has w16 engine i know that the veyron has 8000cc i know that the veyron has quad turbo that the 16.4 stands for 16 cylinder equip with 4 turbos which produce not just 1000hp but 1001hp. but i think this car would be similar but just it is a smaller car and less sensational than the veyron. i know that the veyron has w16 engine
i know that the veyron has 8000cc
i know that the veyron has quad turbo that the 16.4 stands for 16 cylinder equip with 4 turbos which produce not just 1000hp but 1001hp.
but i think this car would be similar but just it is a smaller car and less sensational than the veyron.

]]> By: cbljkkj http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88781 cbljkkj Sat, 26 May 2007 20:51:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88781 PTAllTheBest The Veyron's displacement is 8 liters not 6.5 and is a W16. The fact about the petrol tank being emptied in 12 minutes only applies to the Veyron at full speed at 253mph. I doubt the Golf W12 650 can go that fast because of it's significantly different aerodynamic properties and power which is marginally lower by 448hp than the Veyrons 998hp/1000ps. PTAllTheBest

The Veyron’s displacement is 8 liters not 6.5 and is a W16. The fact about the petrol tank being emptied in 12 minutes only applies to the Veyron at full speed at 253mph. I doubt the Golf W12 650 can go that fast because of it’s significantly different aerodynamic properties and power which is marginally lower by 448hp than the Veyrons 998hp/1000ps.

]]> By: jonnyblaze http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88773 jonnyblaze Sat, 26 May 2007 16:20:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88773 "Question here. From the looks of the fan, it supposed to suck air in. I know the reason why they have a huge “mouth” at the back of the car to move the heat away. The side vents is to suck air in but where does the fan gets the air to blow the engine in a closed quarters?" Can't know whether a fan suck or blow air just by the look of it. By the look of it, if the fans spin anti-clockwise, then air will suck into the cabin. If the fans spin clockwise, then air will be sucked from the cabin and blown down below the carbon bodywork and exit through the big opening in the rear bumper. The latter makes more sense. Cool air-cond air will helps the W12 maintains operational temperature. Apparently, there's a gap between the c-pillar and the rear glass window, which acts like an air scoop to draw in cool air for the fans to suck on. Wonder whether the driver will experience difficulty in breathing once those huge fans start spinning.. :) “Question here. From the looks of the fan, it supposed to suck air in. I know the reason why they have a huge “mouth” at the back of the car to move the heat away. The side vents is to suck air in but where does the fan gets the air to blow the engine in a closed quarters?”

Can’t know whether a fan suck or blow air just by the look of it.

By the look of it, if the fans spin anti-clockwise, then air will suck into the cabin. If the fans spin clockwise, then air will be sucked from the cabin and blown down below the carbon bodywork and exit through the big opening in the rear bumper. The latter makes more sense. Cool air-cond air will helps the W12 maintains operational temperature.

Apparently, there’s a gap between the c-pillar and the rear glass window, which acts like an air scoop to draw in cool air for the fans to suck on.

Wonder whether the driver will experience difficulty in breathing once those huge fans start spinning.. :)

]]> By: transformer http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88770 transformer Sat, 26 May 2007 15:48:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88770 the Ultimate Frog ! an engineering master piece but please don't mass pro this! CO2 would choke our earth! the Ultimate Frog !

an engineering master piece but please don’t mass pro this!
CO2 would choke our earth!

]]> By: alpha0201 http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88769 alpha0201 Sat, 26 May 2007 15:01:16 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88769 Question here. From the looks of the fan, it supposed to suck air in. I know the reason why they have a huge "mouth" at the back of the car to move the heat away. The side vents is to suck air in but where does the fan gets the air to blow the engine in a closed quarters? Question here. From the looks of the fan, it supposed to suck air in. I know the reason why they have a huge “mouth” at the back of the car to move the heat away. The side vents is to suck air in but where does the fan gets the air to blow the engine in a closed quarters?

]]> By: PTAllTheBest http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88762 PTAllTheBest Sat, 26 May 2007 13:03:27 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88762 6.5l w12??? like the veyron, it sucks up all the petrol in your tank within 12 minutes. 6.5l w12???
like the veyron, it sucks up all the petrol in your tank within 12 minutes.

]]> By: mmcwei http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88754 mmcwei Sat, 26 May 2007 12:38:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88754 good job VW... good job VW…

]]> By: LittleFire85 http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88750 LittleFire85 Sat, 26 May 2007 12:03:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88750 i dont think this car will be mass produce... only a few limited version will come out... Even the price tag wont be cheap.. W12 6.5L engine? Even road tax already kill us in Malaysia... How about insurance some more... Haiz.. I think only the Datuk's and high officer can buy in this Boleh Land... i dont think this car will be mass produce… only a few limited version will come out… Even the price tag wont be cheap.. W12 6.5L engine? Even road tax already kill us in Malaysia… How about insurance some more… Haiz.. I think only the Datuk’s and high officer can buy in this Boleh Land…

]]> By: cbljkkj http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88747 cbljkkj Sat, 26 May 2007 11:45:08 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88747 Armandd is right, all european cars must pass strict emissions test to make them road legal. Even exhaust sound decibels are measured and properly regulated to make them ear friendly. If they were to market this car, they would have to adhere to these strict policies to sell them to the general public. Point is, the Bentley Continental and the Volks Phaeton too have W12 engines but you dont see them being banned do you? Even the Veyron which has a W16 engine is out prowling the streets. I'm no anti-enviromentalist but creativity is what makes the world go round, concepts push us forward so we can gain more knowledge and data. If everybody was so pessimistic, the whole world would look like a giant Toyota Prius. Without motorsports knowledge, would you think we would have gotten VVT-I? Sometimes people have to take a step back and analyze so we can make amendments for the future. Armandd is right, all european cars must pass strict emissions test to make them road legal. Even exhaust sound decibels are measured and properly regulated to make them ear friendly. If they were to market this car, they would have to adhere to these strict policies to sell them to the general public.

Point is, the Bentley Continental and the Volks Phaeton too have W12 engines but you dont see them being banned do you? Even the Veyron which has a W16 engine is out prowling the streets. I’m no anti-enviromentalist but creativity is what makes the world go round, concepts push us forward so we can gain more knowledge and data.

If everybody was so pessimistic, the whole world would look like a giant Toyota Prius. Without motorsports knowledge, would you think we would have gotten VVT-I? Sometimes people have to take a step back and analyze so we can make amendments for the future.

]]> By: ab http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88746 ab Sat, 26 May 2007 11:41:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88746 Oooh, those sexy rear turbines....they should call it the Volkswagen Golf GT-RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!! Oooh, those sexy rear turbines….they should call it the Volkswagen Golf GT-RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!

]]> By: armandd http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88745 armandd Sat, 26 May 2007 11:05:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88745 layman said, May 26, 2007 @ 2:11 pm "...Putting a 6L engine in this car is stupid and not helping the environment, and it just a poser act." ----------------------------------------------------------------- i beg to differ. people who buy this kind of performance machine couldn't care less about fuel consumption. also, i think all euro cars must pass strict emission standards right? think about it this way; as the oil reserves around the world deplete, we should enjoy the glorious sound of these amazing engines while we still have time, heheh.. layman said,

May 26, 2007 @ 2:11 pm

“…Putting a 6L engine in this car is stupid and not helping the environment, and it just a poser act.”

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i beg to differ. people who buy this kind of performance machine couldn’t care less about fuel consumption. also, i think all euro cars must pass strict emission standards right? think about it this way; as the oil reserves around the world deplete, we should enjoy the glorious sound of these amazing engines while we still have time, heheh..

]]> By: drM http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88744 drM Sat, 26 May 2007 10:38:45 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88744 sicko germans. first they did that rear end engine placement. then they put into several hundreds of horsepowers and torques. like i said, this german is sick sicko germans.

first they did that rear end engine placement.

then they put into several hundreds of horsepowers and torques.

like i said, this german is sick

]]> By: Dogster http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88740 Dogster Sat, 26 May 2007 09:14:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88740 I am gonna copy and paste the design into myvi !!!!!! :P It will be a killer!! I am gonna copy and paste the design into myvi !!!!!! :P It will be a killer!!

]]> By: Charger http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88739 Charger Sat, 26 May 2007 08:52:12 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88739 motherker: FWD only. motherker: FWD only.

]]> By: motherker http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88738 motherker Sat, 26 May 2007 08:48:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88738 just wanna ask u guys, the current golf gti at msia, the 2.0FSI version, is it all wheel drive or FWD only? just wanna ask u guys, the current golf gti at msia, the 2.0FSI version, is it all wheel drive or FWD only?

]]> By: kei9 http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88732 kei9 Sat, 26 May 2007 07:00:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88732 BTW thwe turbine fans really look great......whuuuu! BTW thwe turbine fans really look great……whuuuu!

]]> By: Joe Ooi http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88731 Joe Ooi Sat, 26 May 2007 06:54:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88731 4 exzos pipe, wow really so powerfull ah! 4 exzos pipe, wow really so powerfull ah!

]]> By: kei9 http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88728 kei9 Sat, 26 May 2007 06:42:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88728 im drulling over it....... im drulling over it…….

]]> By: hafreze http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88726 hafreze Sat, 26 May 2007 06:22:45 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88726 if laa proton can design a new car like this...price range around rm30k-rm40..I would surely buy...I dont care the performance..enuff to get 1.3 cc engine..why proton don't want to design like this arr..got a lot of designer here maa...hire them and give us cool and exotic design lor.. if laa proton can design a new car like this…price range around rm30k-rm40..I would surely buy…I dont care the performance..enuff to get 1.3 cc engine..why proton don’t want to design like this arr..got a lot of designer here maa…hire them and give us cool and exotic design lor..

]]> By: tbcheese http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88725 tbcheese Sat, 26 May 2007 06:12:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88725 gawd that interior is shite. certainly doesn't live up to the usual VW design. this looks much hotter on the outside compared to the clio v6 though gawd that interior is shite. certainly doesn’t live up to the usual VW design. this looks much hotter on the outside compared to the clio v6 though

]]> By: layman http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88724 layman Sat, 26 May 2007 06:11:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88724 In the Star Paper today, Pak Lah says 'Try using less energy and buy cars that use less petrol. If we do this, we will be able to manage our expenses even without salary increases'. Putting a 6L engine in this car is stupid and not helping the environment, and it just a poser act. In the Star Paper today, Pak Lah says ‘Try using less energy and buy cars that use less petrol. If we do this, we will be able to manage our expenses even without salary increases’.
Putting a 6L engine in this car is stupid and not helping the environment, and it just a poser act.

]]> By: aaron_38my http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88722 aaron_38my Sat, 26 May 2007 05:50:12 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88722 correction to the comment; its a W12 not a V12.well, the block is V but the cylinders are variably laid out in V. damn, a W12 in a GTI, i've heard of VR6 in a GTi but a W12?OMG, this is definitely going to be a kick-a$$ GTi.Not to mention its mid-mounted and the beautiful exterior. D^mn...only vulgar words can describe it casually.Beautiful...simply beautiful.... correction to the comment; its a W12 not a V12.well, the block is V but the cylinders are variably laid out in V.
damn, a W12 in a GTI, i’ve heard of VR6 in a GTi but a W12?OMG, this is definitely going to be a kick-a$$ GTi.Not to mention its mid-mounted and the beautiful exterior.
D^mn…only vulgar words can describe it casually.Beautiful…simply beautiful….

]]> By: aesthari http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88721 aesthari Sat, 26 May 2007 05:48:38 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88721 When a car looks this awfully good inside out, it cannot possibly be bad. I bet that the undercarriage of the car is beautifully laid out too! I'm in love, I truly want one of this! Supercar performance while not looking too out of place in everyday traffic. When a car looks this awfully good inside out, it cannot possibly be bad. I bet that the undercarriage of the car is beautifully laid out too! I’m in love, I truly want one of this! Supercar performance while not looking too out of place in everyday traffic.

]]> By: Vengeance http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88719 Vengeance Sat, 26 May 2007 05:33:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88719 oh my, a v12 on a 2 door hatchback? that's gonna fly! A compact supercar, new category? oh my, a v12 on a 2 door hatchback? that’s gonna fly!
A compact supercar, new category?

]]> By: moreno007 http://paultan.org/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88716 moreno007 Sat, 26 May 2007 04:36:39 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/05/26/golf-gti-w12-650-engine-bay/#comment-88716 wah....looks like the fan like my pc pc cooling fan!..kewl man! wah….looks like the fan like my pc pc cooling fan!..kewl man!

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