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	<title>Comments on: 2012 Range Rover L405 might go all-aluminium</title>
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	<description>Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry</description>
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		<title>By: Renato</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/05/29/2012-range-rover-l405-might-go-all-aluminium/#comment-376674</link>
		<dc:creator>Renato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 20:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Range Rover 2012</description>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better late than never on this subject.

Unfortunately Land Rover is trying to satisfy everyone. They satisfy the wealthier client by making it luxurious; the urban drag racer by making it faster and more powerful, and the style queens by making it look like all the other cars on the road. Of course today, there are few individuals who know what a true off-road vehicle is, or even know how to handle one. Land Rover now makes their vehicles capable of going off-road for the mentally impaired when they have to maneuver through the shopping mall parking lot. Heaven forbid if they were actually forced to deal with a situation that might ruffle their ever widening behinds.

Believe it or not, Land Rover made the earlier models with aluminum bodies, so this is nothing new. Of course nobody in this crowd bought them then. I&#039;ve owned three Land Rovers (one I drive daily today), starting with a 1969 which only had a 4 cylinder. It was a kidney killer, but man what an experience through New Mexico and Arizona. 

You bought one when you wanted, or needed to get yourself out of the mud, or sand, or go through the brush, where it didn&#039;t matter if the sides got scratched. They were all manual shift, and having to actually handle the vehicle made the experience even more meaningful. When you were through at the end of the day, you felt like you wrestled a bear, but the experience was exhilarating. Of course the well heeled crowd would never understand that kind of mentality; it might actually jostle their martini. The best Land Rover is the 110, but of course they don&#039;t import them here anymore; only to other countries where people actually use them for what they were intended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better late than never on this subject.</p>
<p>Unfortunately Land Rover is trying to satisfy everyone. They satisfy the wealthier client by making it luxurious; the urban drag racer by making it faster and more powerful, and the style queens by making it look like all the other cars on the road. Of course today, there are few individuals who know what a true off-road vehicle is, or even know how to handle one. Land Rover now makes their vehicles capable of going off-road for the mentally impaired when they have to maneuver through the shopping mall parking lot. Heaven forbid if they were actually forced to deal with a situation that might ruffle their ever widening behinds.</p>
<p>Believe it or not, Land Rover made the earlier models with aluminum bodies, so this is nothing new. Of course nobody in this crowd bought them then. I&#8217;ve owned three Land Rovers (one I drive daily today), starting with a 1969 which only had a 4 cylinder. It was a kidney killer, but man what an experience through New Mexico and Arizona. </p>
<p>You bought one when you wanted, or needed to get yourself out of the mud, or sand, or go through the brush, where it didn&#8217;t matter if the sides got scratched. They were all manual shift, and having to actually handle the vehicle made the experience even more meaningful. When you were through at the end of the day, you felt like you wrestled a bear, but the experience was exhilarating. Of course the well heeled crowd would never understand that kind of mentality; it might actually jostle their martini. The best Land Rover is the 110, but of course they don&#8217;t import them here anymore; only to other countries where people actually use them for what they were intended.</p>
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		<title>By: joseph</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/05/29/2012-range-rover-l405-might-go-all-aluminium/#comment-325831</link>
		<dc:creator>joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 02:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one thing isdriving a 4x4 in the city from monday to friday, where the range rover smothness and luxury is really appreciated, and another is a really off-road terrain, where a regular one is excellent and 500 kilograms do make difference, even when it would be still 2TN, heavier than many other SUV... 
so I think that a hybrid (without prius problems) would be demanded, it would be liek having two different cars...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one thing isdriving a 4&#215;4 in the city from monday to friday, where the range rover smothness and luxury is really appreciated, and another is a really off-road terrain, where a regular one is excellent and 500 kilograms do make difference, even when it would be still 2TN, heavier than many other SUV&#8230;<br />
so I think that a hybrid (without prius problems) would be demanded, it would be liek having two different cars&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hlayseka</title>
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		<dc:creator>hlayseka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>range rover has gone babanananaas </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>range rover has gone babanananaas </p>
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		<title>By: dnm_m7</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/05/29/2012-range-rover-l405-might-go-all-aluminium/#comment-127930</link>
		<dc:creator>dnm_m7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugly! most likely won&#039;t be purchasing a Range Rover after 2011 - if this is really what the 2012 model is set to look like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugly! most likely won&#8217;t be purchasing a Range Rover after 2011 &#8211; if this is really what the 2012 model is set to look like.</p>
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		<title>By: mothersuperior</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/05/29/2012-range-rover-l405-might-go-all-aluminium/#comment-90746</link>
		<dc:creator>mothersuperior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 19:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alu can be light, strong and TOUGH. There&#039;s more to it than pots and pans! 
When alloyed by Mg,Ti, etc it can be as strong as &quot;steel&quot;, and that is why it has been used for umpteen years on airplanes, armoured vehicles, sports ind. etc. Alu/alloys are used in the automotive industry for wide ranging parts, power, structural, panels etc. and in order to fulfil new legislation it can make cars even lighter and stronger. Even the GM Hummer uses an armour grade alu. The Range Rover is a superb car. Most popular vehicle with soccer stars in Britain. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alu can be light, strong and TOUGH. There&#039;s more to it than pots and pans!</p>
<p>When alloyed by Mg,Ti, etc it can be as strong as &quot;steel&quot;, and that is why it has been used for umpteen years on airplanes, armoured vehicles, sports ind. etc. Alu/alloys are used in the automotive industry for wide ranging parts, power, structural, panels etc. and in order to fulfil new legislation it can make cars even lighter and stronger. Even the GM Hummer uses an armour grade alu. The Range Rover is a superb car. Most popular vehicle with soccer stars in Britain. </p>
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		<title>By: kei9</title>
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		<dc:creator>kei9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 16:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice......sloping rooofline...go for the carbon fibre laa! just like the merc mclaren f1 </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice&#8230;&#8230;sloping rooofline&#8230;go for the carbon fibre laa! just like the merc mclaren f1 </p>
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		<title>By: albagmane</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/05/29/2012-range-rover-l405-might-go-all-aluminium/#comment-89366</link>
		<dc:creator>albagmane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 21:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow wow wow... when talking bout this high end luxury 4wd, i only manage to wow only lar... not tat lucky to have a chance to own this masterpiece... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow wow wow&#8230; when talking bout this high end luxury 4wd, i only manage to wow only lar&#8230; not tat lucky to have a chance to own this masterpiece&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: BanyakMasukWorkshop</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/05/29/2012-range-rover-l405-might-go-all-aluminium/#comment-89243</link>
		<dc:creator>BanyakMasukWorkshop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 14:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>acbc, aluminum by itself is soft and weak.  but with the proper engineering, it can can create a car chassis thats light, as well as very strong and stiff. 
Paul, any idea if Jaguar&#039;s alloy chassis was developed by lotus? i believe the allow chassis in the aston martin is by lotus. so i&#039;m guessing it must be. 
 
but aluminium use is nothing new for land rover.  even the old landrover series1 from 40 years ago uses aluminium body panels and continues with the landrover defender today. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>acbc, aluminum by itself is soft and weak.  but with the proper engineering, it can can create a car chassis thats light, as well as very strong and stiff.</p>
<p>Paul, any idea if Jaguar&#039;s alloy chassis was developed by lotus? i believe the allow chassis in the aston martin is by lotus. so i&#039;m guessing it must be.</p>
<p>but aluminium use is nothing new for land rover.  even the old landrover series1 from 40 years ago uses aluminium body panels and continues with the landrover defender today. </p>
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		<title>By: aesthari</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/05/29/2012-range-rover-l405-might-go-all-aluminium/#comment-89236</link>
		<dc:creator>aesthari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 13:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>15 years? Won&#039;t that make it 2021?? It&#039;ll be cool if they make the whole body unpainted aluminium, just like how DMC built Deloreans with a stainless steel body! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>15 years? Won&#039;t that make it 2021?? It&#039;ll be cool if they make the whole body unpainted aluminium, just like how DMC built Deloreans with a stainless steel body! </p>
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		<title>By: tokmoh</title>
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		<dc:creator>tokmoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 13:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;ll be extremely expensive if they use carbon fibre......T.T </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;ll be extremely expensive if they use carbon fibre&#8230;&#8230;T.T </p>
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		<title>By: motherker</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/05/29/2012-range-rover-l405-might-go-all-aluminium/#comment-89215</link>
		<dc:creator>motherker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 10:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why not got for carbon fibre then? its lighter and proven to be more stronger than steel </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why not got for carbon fibre then? its lighter and proven to be more stronger than steel </p>
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		<title>By: McQueen_CARz</title>
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		<dc:creator>McQueen_CARz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 23:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our old Proton Saga much better, using the &quot;Milo Tin&quot; material... Muahahaha... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our old Proton Saga much better, using the &quot;Milo Tin&quot; material&#8230; Muahahaha&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: acbc</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/05/29/2012-range-rover-l405-might-go-all-aluminium/#comment-89177</link>
		<dc:creator>acbc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 23:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aluminum is light and strong but not tough. Quite ok for Range Rover (it has become a luxury brand) because people tend to drive around town and city areas. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aluminum is light and strong but not tough. Quite ok for Range Rover (it has become a luxury brand) because people tend to drive around town and city areas. </p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
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		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 23:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>will it still be strong? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will it still be strong? </p>
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		<title>By: xg9</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/05/29/2012-range-rover-l405-might-go-all-aluminium/#comment-89166</link>
		<dc:creator>xg9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 21:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all aluminium.... just like my LG  handphone.. hahaha.. :P </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all aluminium&#8230;. just like my LG  handphone.. hahaha.. <img src='http://s2.paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: mmcwei</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/05/29/2012-range-rover-l405-might-go-all-aluminium/#comment-89163</link>
		<dc:creator>mmcwei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 21:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG...this is truly a beauty new range rover...land rover is the best off-roaders in the world!!! i love land rover...but still a long way to go before it launched...PAUL, can you provide more pic of the front, interior and others? will this new model using the previous range rover&#039;s engines-4.2 SC, TDV8, TDV6, 4.4 V8? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG&#8230;this is truly a beauty new range rover&#8230;land rover is the best off-roaders in the world!!! i love land rover&#8230;but still a long way to go before it launched&#8230;PAUL, can you provide more pic of the front, interior and others? will this new model using the previous range rover&#039;s engines-4.2 SC, TDV8, TDV6, 4.4 V8? </p>
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		<title>By: ab</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/05/29/2012-range-rover-l405-might-go-all-aluminium/#comment-89160</link>
		<dc:creator>ab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 20:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>itell u, even with all the weight savings plan, come 2012 they will still manage to load it up to over 2 tonnes </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>itell u, even with all the weight savings plan, come 2012 they will still manage to load it up to over 2 tonnes </p>
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		<title>By: transformer</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/05/29/2012-range-rover-l405-might-go-all-aluminium/#comment-89155</link>
		<dc:creator>transformer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 20:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool! 
 
this would help it to sprint faster! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool!</p>
<p>this would help it to sprint faster! </p>
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		<title>By: Capt Shopalot</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/05/29/2012-range-rover-l405-might-go-all-aluminium/#comment-89144</link>
		<dc:creator>Capt Shopalot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 20:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much friendly to environment </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much friendly to environment </p>
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		<title>By: szw</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/05/29/2012-range-rover-l405-might-go-all-aluminium/#comment-89143</link>
		<dc:creator>szw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 19:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>light 4x4 ? 
hmm... 
does it make much difference ? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>light 4&#215;4 ?</p>
<p>hmm&#8230;</p>
<p>does it make much difference ? </p>
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