I owned a 1995 Proton MPi 1.5i(A) UK-spec. I tell you this car feels like a Japanese car. Build quality’s superb, QUiet engine, Lancer Fiore Dashboard, ECU, Fuel tank, pump, filter even the fuel cap is Mitsubishi. I know coz my Fuel Pump KO, need to find Lancer. NO SQUEAKS. Very minimal rust.

I welcome a 1999 model Iswara Auto (the Carby light green ones) to compare. My friend owned 1 actually. Bodyshell is “thinner”, car is noisier, has squeaks, has RUST. Dashboard coming apart, glovebox can’t close properly. My car have Better ride and handling (harder suspension).

My Iswara MPI is for sale by the way for RM7800 NEG.

http://www.proton.co.uk/impian/offers/index.asp

“If you don’t want to put down a large deposit, you can put down just £15 and still walk away with a brand new Impian, for just £214 a month over five years.”

If this were the case in Malaysia, everyone would be ecstatic about their Waja too..

Oh, list some of the ways? That’s tricky, I’m thinking the best way is to just “”keluar dari Malaysia”,
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Seem like the rakyat not only have to patriotic and sacrifice hard earn money under NAP to pay for low quality, unsafe yet highly price car, but if in the event oyu rakyat complain, then someone up there ask you “keluar dari Malaysia”. Is this is the best way, big no. Why we have to take all kind of burden for P1 failure?

The solution to this calamity is STOP THE BUYING, STOP THE SUCKING! Kick out this NAP + P1 = Blood sucker from Malaysian auto industry! Go and close shop if they can’t improve (company law allow for that), not as rakyat to bear with all their incompetent!

Rakyat not happy do not need to migrate for P1 failured! But the right thing to do is close shop!

as for those who read about peYno, don’t hv to get mad with him. as i hv said earlier, he ’s car retarded. so be happy when read his claim, u will laugh nonstop which better than taking laughing pill. hahahahaha….just can’t stop it. whahahaha.

by the way, why so much comments til off topic? actually, doesn’t matter what car it is from, there will have willing buyers to buy any car, even proton in uk. just like overhere, chery were sold here. just depends on quantity only. someone also bought juara, tiara and arena, u don’t like it but some does. infact i do like driving waja, too bad it hv so much problem i sold it off. problem free makes us happy. hah………..

Components to build local cars = 45% import duty ( varies on parts )+ 30% sales tax
local cars = 50~70% excise duty

So sendiri mau ingat la why the local cars is more expensive than export cars eventhough the specs is the same.

* Kindly double check the tax figures due to update NAP. For comparison only.

You got me ponder for a while on a statement you made about

“how about pushing the gahmen to make this country’s market to be as competitive as theirs, and kick their useless cronies who provide lousy parts for Proton?”

Can you list down some of the ways?(Uh uh…those been tried before, you can’t list them, ok )

And erm… I bet I stop treating the car like gem if after three times of fixing while on my third installment (another 57 months to go…hehehe), I’ll still need to open my door to pay toll. I didn’t mention Proton did I?

I am in my second installment of my new Gems, it’s local and guess what? The condition of the windows are good that I regret buying that Smart Tag…Touch N’ Go will do just fine…man…Erm…I didn’t mention Perodua Myvi did I?

And as for Bro Joe Ooi,
Aiyah, bro…Why bother educate? The dude’s comments were so routine (twisted in so many way) every now and then whenever this topic arises. But of course, thank you and keep those useful info coming will ya? Hehe

alo brader..
Honda cars in US r manufuctered in Japan or US plant…
not in Honda melaka or Thailand la.. prrrfthhhh

some more US market does not sell 2nd class ja[s cars like City/vios/innova/avanza,those purposely designed for 3rd world country (SEA) market.. not in US la.. prrrfthhh
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It is true Honda car also assemble all over the world. And those market in US is produce in US simply because economy of scale reason. No doubt there may be a “variation” in quality!

As for Vios, Innova and Avanza, according to Toyota website, it is a “local best’ models design for specific geographical market. In this case, these models are consider as “entry level” as afforable car. Camry, Altis, Yaris, etc is “world best” models design for world market. “Local best” is not necessary is “inferior” to “world best” (most may perceive in that way for consumers in this part of world) as demonstrate by “local best” in US market is top of the range Toyota sedan car – AVALON

http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/overview.aspx?year=2007&make=Toyota&model=Avalon

If you all Proton bashers really bash Proton cuz u want them to improve and give better service, then how about pushing the gahmen to make this country’s market to be as competitive as theirs, and kick their useless cronies who provide lousy parts for Proton? But nope, we decided to “have confidence in the gahmen” and “keep democracy alive in this country”, thank you all, its a brilliant decision made my the majority, so why complain so much? Whatever happens, “it doesn’t matter”, as Najib has said, cuz Pak Lah “is still in control. Do you want him to become stricter?”

My friend used to tell me British police do have Satria GTi, but I found it hard to believe as the cars that their police use that I’ve seen have only been some Ford Focus and Vauxhall Astra. I guess it is probable that somewhere in the UK, there are Satria GTi police car.

@fastcx
I second ur opinion abt Msians treat Proton like junks, and then treat a foreign car like a gem. My fren’s Gen.2 have been in the SC twice for major accidents, yet, when he drives his dad’s Ford Escape, it felt like I was chauffeur-driven. Then, when he enters my dad’s Waja, he’ll slam the doors really hard, I was like “WTF!! Are you trying to ruin my dad’s car!??!!? Dah tau Proton senang hancur, lagi layan cam beruk…..” His response? “used to Gen.2’s style to close door, Proton mah….”

sigh…..all you need to use is 2 fingers to close the door, and he go and apply 1.0×10^99N of force to it. Go figure the other reason other than lousy parts provided by greedy cronies on why Proton cars break easily.

hehe Kumaresan…go for dominos pizza. A bit more expensive but will save you a few heart attacks.

irkeez.. if you have follow paultan.org for months.. you would have notice the bigger banner proton had before…

afnstingray… if that holds true.. hello upgrade!

i dont think it will, but what do you guys think? hehe im trying to find out cos my mum is looking for that waja replacement…..

the dashboard was the same plastic and the door felt the same (he let me open and shut it myself)

i purposely felt up the dashboard and seat materials to see if there was a difference (perhaps using softer plastics)

perhaps the older protons (based on jap cars) did have a different spec. But this waja felt identical.

i feel the only variable in question is the QC and perhaps the components for certain things (windows) are different brands maybe or from different suppliers for “localisation” purposes (in england u need heating)

qc and slightly differing components making that much of a difference?

i remember reading an article about tesco/sainsbury/asda branded goods…apparently they are made in the same factory as the “branded” stuff like kelloggs and mcvities but the only difference is freshness, less qc, and slighty lower quality ingredients…..

my theory is, proton can afford to do this to us. so they will. once there is more competition, they will be forced to be more efficient……

i mean they are in business to try and make money so if they can afford to squeeze us they will…the vios and city are providing ample competition now, and the quality lately has definitely improved….can imagine what will happen if we get even more competition. Hopefully we get UK quality protons haha.
Frankly i prefer the look and spaciousness of the waja to most of its competitors, i was quite disappointed that the altis has less legroom at the back than the waja. its really such a pity. the waja would be a great car if they just got it to work properly, maybe used nicer plastic and improved its safety a bit more……

If your statement hold true, then go and tell all TV, be it statelite or earth stations like RTM, TV3, Astro, etc to stop allow anything and everything that can and allow by the regulatory body to make commercial advetisement!

You make a pathetic statement, Paul is not a journalist but blogger make a decent and honest living out of internet/blog! So, BMW or other advert is part of his income to support him and this blog as well. Without revenue from BMW and other advert, Paul Tan don’t need to eat ah. If you like to condemn, then go and condemn pyramid or other the like scam like investment scheme, or XXX site, etc

I mean there are the few odd praises for Proton in M’sia but they are few and far between and it’s overwhelmed by insurmountible criticism. Even the writer was surprised with the overly positive sentiments dedicated to Proton cars in Hull from his own experience of having one.

So, is QC the main culprit here? Do double standards really exist between Proton for rakyat M’sia and Proton for overseas market? From reading the post and hearing stories from friends driving export Proton model, its quality is definitely better thn the rakyat’s model.

If this is true, then it seems Proton is dedicated to produce the best for one of the foreign forces it has declared independence from 50 years ago (and which our fore fathers fought hard for!)

Thus, “Belilah Barangan Buatan Malaysia” is but humour in poor taste and done at the expense of the rakyats hard earned money..

I know an engineer in Audi’s local assembly plant. They are very, very strict in QC. Final inspection is done ONLY by specially trained Germans to ensure that their final products are on par with their Germany plant. That’s QC even the Japanese manufacturers are lacking here.