Comments on: Proton Satria Neo Delivery Checklist

By: Malaysia BoXXX

Malaysia BoXXX — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:53:23 +0000

e-nabilll said,

June 10, 2007 @ 4:20 pm

TUV inspection ONLY applies to the savvy , not othr models , that explains y the savvy has almost no problem so farâ€¦.no matter how many times p1 changes management , end of the day its the guys on the assembly lines attitude that counts , p1 should be strong handed on themâ€¦.

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Or can we say this model never sell enough for the suffering voices to be heard ?

By: Irkeez

Irkeez — Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:42:58 +0000

Shy on you Mr Paul Tan. You are so materialistic. You sacrifice your blog for BMW advertisement only for the money. You are not the real man who love your blog. All of the audience of your blog now "sakit mata" with your advertisement in this blog… If you want money, go to work la…ok.

By: arcana

arcana — Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:56:29 +0000

helpful guide indeed but shouldnt proton themselves prepare a checklist when delivering a vehicle…..or they couldnt be bothered.

i bought a toyota 4 years back and had to spend about 1hour just going thru the checklist with the salesman and examining everything in the car before i drive it home.

By: kei9

kei9 — Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:15:12 +0000

it all comes down to the public view….about it.

By: BanyakMasukWorkshop

BanyakMasukWorkshop — Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:20:39 +0000

i think sometimes, its us Malaysian who need to kick ourselves in the pants. isn't it normal for us to hear about foreign makes having poor CKD quality in Malaysia as compared to their CBU versions? It also not confined to the car market, but to many things malaysian.

maybe its not just a "proton" problem, but a problem with ourselves in general as a country.

as for the neo, the handling is mind-blowing. you'd never expect steering response and grip in a car like this at this price.

By: Cire

Cire — Mon, 11 Jun 2007 07:58:58 +0000

Whether the car is developed in Nurb.or in LeMans, it is only the handling and performance that you will get out of this tracks, but the issues here are the built and parts' quality.

Satria Neo is a gigantuan positive leap for proton in terms of quality achievement, and it would be a waste of everyone's effort if the quality are not maintained and the people building it are not trained and updated from time to time. Well, hope that it did not deteriorated with the announcement of VW deals going on. Sort of demoralising for some, but also uplifting for others that are truly doing their job.

By: kei9

kei9 — Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:07:53 +0000

yeah..they might even spoil the VW cars IF it happens….But they just wanna 'choi chiak'…….

By: e-nabilll

e-nabilll — Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:20:56 +0000

TUV inspection ONLY applies to the savvy , not othr models , that explains y the savvy has almost no problem so far….no matter how many times p1 changes management , end of the day its the guys on the assembly lines attitude that counts , p1 should be strong handed on them….

By: Malaysia BoXXX

Malaysia BoXXX — Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:50:11 +0000

leechorwin said,

June 10, 2007 @ 1:37 pm

I thought Proton had improved the build quality and claim that they cars is certify with German quality assurance? Or the certify is bluff 1. haha.

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That TUV thing does not represent anything German at all, it's based in German but its a private entity on inspection & test audit and paid by those who hired them. Just like many financial audit firms generating fictatious report recently in Malaysia, there is always potential lack of integrity in these thing. They didn't mention what is the 'scope' of inspection, and nobody is smart to ask too.

IT IS REMARKABLE THAT 'POTONG' HAS ENTRUSTED THE FINAL QC CHECKING JOB TO THEIR BELOVED CUSTOMERS (SUCKERS).

By: leechorwin

leechorwin — Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:37:24 +0000

I thought Proton had improved the build quality and claim that they cars is certify with German quality assurance? Or the certify is bluff 1. haha.

Proton is Malaysia taxpayers money sucker!! A 20 years old company still alway need government to pump in money to sustain their business operation, really don't know what they really learn in the past 20 years.

By: Kevin Lee

Kevin Lee — Sun, 10 Jun 2007 09:30:26 +0000

anyways, i agree to the above checklist. My neo is reaching one year and so far so good. The only damage I had was self inflicted and there was once an engine mounting recall, so it was all done

By: proton GL

proton GL — Sat, 09 Jun 2007 23:25:50 +0000

its important what ever a newly proton produa other makes, check the engine bay ,water ,oil engine, any hose come off, loose connection, -those small thing might lead to a total engine destruction

its good to run a journey under heavy rain making sure of the body is perfectly sealed checked ,

and under-seal compound very well covered undercarriage and mud guard so that no bare metal exposed, stone chip might later caused rust,

before warrent ends..

allignment need to checked. itll save your tyre, if got money try avoid Sime Tyre, go for goodyear (malaysian ok) or batter brand (sometimes thailands)

kumho (crap)

By: kei9

kei9 — Sat, 09 Jun 2007 22:12:57 +0000

xtra checks……

By: ab

ab — Sat, 09 Jun 2007 22:00:25 +0000

'Check if chassis/engine number is same as the one on the registration card ' ? the govt still talk on cracking kereta potong problems when protons are already potong when they leave the factory

By: transformer

transformer — Sat, 09 Jun 2007 21:52:06 +0000

So let pray for those who hit the jackpot… Mua Ha Ha!!!!

World first for P1 for its comprehensive checklist for new car owner!

M'sia Bolehland !

By: jee sheen

jee sheen — Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:32:56 +0000

hello everyone.new to this forum,but been observing for a while-interesting forum.i sometimes pity proton,they had been trying so hard to regain the market trust,but damaged done so bad to the current customer,seems to lost them for good.now wooing new buyer with several competitively introduced new car adds to the injury.Wells,they are really our automotive high school,many of those leading the other manufacturer/assembler graduated from there..On the bright side,even the luxury car had a very similar scene,Ssangyong Rexton 2 ,for instance,a big surprise to see their inability to cater technical issues even with back ups from Korea,so ..sales dropping.maybe similar to naza.,but look at eg. toyota,or even perodua, big gap ,i think customer priority is services by their people.again i may be not correct.

By: e-nabilll

e-nabilll — Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:22:26 +0000

this checklist is a generall random faults found,NOT every Neo u recieve will have these issues,very helpful though

By: 8918

8918 — Sat, 09 Jun 2007 18:07:19 +0000

Well IMHO,this is where the service center play an important role for after sales service.Most owner will be ok if the problem can be solve,it's quite impossible that you receive your new car without any defect at all nowadays.

I wonder what happen to customer who bought those grey imported car…

By: aaron_38my

aaron_38my — Sat, 09 Jun 2007 14:42:39 +0000

yes fastcx and thank you but don't get the wrong idea of the situation, the way i understood earlier from the article was the actual checklist was really 9 pages long with the fact there's more to the few teasers there until Paul quickly cleared that it was 3 pages only that's really accounted for.

i was unsure though which is why i was never firmed with my comments on problem risks of a new satria.I was merely enquiring for credibility.fastcx, i hope you don't misunderstood me as one of those who simply gives comments as i wish to avoid criticisms which could lead to forum dispute. cheers.

anyone can tell me what was developed when the satria neo was in Nurburgring?

By: aesthari

aesthari — Sat, 09 Jun 2007 13:09:51 +0000

9 pages? 6 pages comprehensive, 3 pages even for concise. Proton sure can brag about this!

By: fastcx

fastcx — Sat, 09 Jun 2007 12:53:56 +0000

aaron_38my, the 9 pages usually are usual talks that not really related to the checklist, just check out the check list before you make comment about the risk. Thanks

By: BrakeFader

BrakeFader — Sat, 09 Jun 2007 12:43:31 +0000

Sure it is good to check everything before you collect the car. Obviously when collecting the car (which I'm sure it is registered by then), you can't change your unit with a brand new one. As a result, you're still stuck with it, and have to depend on the service centre to fix up all those small defects which is covered by warranty.

The best way is if you could view the car before they register. That depends on the sales people you're dealing with.

By: aaron_38my

aaron_38my — Sat, 09 Jun 2007 11:07:57 +0000

oh…have yet to see the actual check list but the thought of 9 pages is really shocking.

By: Paul Tan

Paul Tan — Sat, 09 Jun 2007 10:46:10 +0000

A proper list has been compiled by the end of the 9 pages… so look at page 7, 8 and 9 if you want to skip everything.

By: aaron_38my

aaron_38my — Sat, 09 Jun 2007 10:40:43 +0000

9 pages long? that means on the day of receiving the new car, might as well be pushed to the service department and spend hours for those checklist problem check up.is the new satria really have that much of problem risks? i mean, its really unthinkable. for one, i know the 2005 batch naza citra has quite a number of problems and already not many owners are happy with it, namely the rear lamps masuk nyamuk, radiator leak, steering rack problem and front suspension creating distinct 'thumping' sound when bounces.yet, all these are more or less really just the problem risks with the naza citras and i don't think it could reach more than 1 page for its checklist.check out for the check list for it in www.citraclub.com. anyhow, i thought the satria neo has been partly developed in Nurburgring?anyone here have a comment on this?