$3000, about 2,600 Euros. A proton Wira 1999 in Germany right now cost EUR 988.. LOL. and its automatic with metallic body paint.

So, if you say the Renault Budget is RM75k, shouldn't the Jazz be RM115k minimum, instead of RM104k? Or even more, considering that we havent considered the 150% tax for the extra USD11.5k?

Let's say they build the USD3k car and they want to sell here. Tax alone will be 150%, then they have to pay for AP, which is at the current rate is RM50k per AP. Let's ditch the small costs like freight and all.

So, roughly, a USD3k or RM10,000 car will cost at least RM75k.

It is truly a car for countries like Romania and such.

what a shortsighted comment. i think malaysian car buyers today have such an enormous wealth of choice when it comes to cars, and at all budgets, from RM20k to the millions. Cars come in so many guises today. Even at the low end of the budget from RM20-50k, we have choices with technology from europe, japan, china, korea, and of course malaysia.

if you can afford above RM50k, there are even more choices all the way to the million budget mark.

June 15, 2007 @ 4:28 pm

"… The biggest reason Proton saga is bloody expensive still mainly due to scale of manufacturing, and freaking parts and components being overcharged. …. Old cars like SAGA probably never went down with the cost because they spend money making new seats la, making new front consoles la, making new bumper la…"

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Nope, i dont agree with you.

If so, then how come taiwan made proton components/parts sold at much cheaper price than "Genuine" proton parts. My first car was a 2nd hand proton saga magma 1.5s way back in 1994. When changing parts i never really went back to proton genuine part agents after my first attempt.

Does this means taiwan (or other) made was of bigger scale mfg than proton? This just doesnt make sense, others mfg scale being larger than proton's when proton is the main player. I just think 'genuine' proton parts manufacturers prices are plain inflatted. And proton or the G didnt do anything on that.

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Oh and Joe Ooi, we should thanks proton and G for depriving us of owning better cars. Hehehehe.

June 15, 2007 @ 10:30 am

I’m sure a decently (at budget) built USD3,000 car would sell at least RM40k in Malaysia. We should realise we can impose all kind of tax and tariff and duties in order to make the imported cars at par with the local cars in term of price.

So live with it. LOL

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What you said is totally true, Chery QQ even lower than USD 3K, it is selling in China starting from RM 9K ++ but in this super expensive under crappy NAP tax, Alado sell it starting from RM 36K!

Let STOP THE BUYING, STOP THE SUCKING! NAP need P1 (under local control) for its legitimate existence and P1 need NAP for its dubious survival!

Both need each other in the name of "national car" and "pride", but the reality is P1 + NAP = Suck rakyat dry!

NAP won't last long as the world trade environment changes all the time, especially with the advancement of free trade that will demolish non-tariff and tariff barrier like NAP and AP!

Lets teach others HOW LOW CAN YOU GO!!!

i would guess its something from Nissan…

shared platform, shared chassis, shared engine, shared transmission…

a single developement deployed to multiple products just as other makes..

Oh btw. The biggest reason Proton saga is bloody expensive still mainly due to scale of manufacturing, and freaking parts and components being overcharged. The price difference of a part would be significant if you make a part 1000 or 100000 times. And it would be even more cheaper if you can use easy to make molds and as little amount of pieces as possible, for example, single piece rear seats, single piece plastic injection front console. Old cars like SAGA probably never went down with the cost because they spend money making new seats la, making new front consoles la, making new bumper la.

This is industrial engineering 101 la.

Dacia Logan is a cheap car because it IS CHEAP to begin with.

A Dacia Logan, cost about €7000 with basic features (Aircond, manual windows, manual transmission, radio cassette player, central locking with remote, 1.4 Renault engine taken from the old Clio) which is similarly priced but roomier than the cheapest P2 Viva, even cheaper than the Saga and has 3-star rating EuroNCAP crash test, which is much superior than the Waja.

I don't see any other reason not to buy one with that kind of price. Comparing with other similar spec & priced car, it seems that this car is the most logical choice.

Everyone will be looking at Renault here. India and China is the next big market an required really cheap car to sell in big big volume.

25years old model still cost us nearly RM30k, above USD7000.

Renault Low cost model is HALF price of SAGA? Come on Proton what should you do?

HOw how and Us How?

So live with it. LOL

yea, here we pay like a fortune for a car :S…………….

can't even find a decent card around RM20K!