June 20, 2007 @ 6:20 pm

Both are great, both are nice, but different people got different tastes….

agree with you…….noy all ppls hav same taste as ourselves.

http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/top-2007-Volksw…

A touareg tows a 155Metric Ton 747 Jetliner. Now that's power. This site http://www.seriouswheels.com has got loads of other car pic wall papers in high res that you can't find here.

Thank me later… kekeke

Ref this article, if VW takeover Proton, die die la all local shareholder……..no say, cuma ikut cakap Jerman laaa…………Haitttt………in the end, ini malaysia sampai bila bila pun kena jajah……….

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Err… Kalau saya tanya mengapa kita sering dijajah orang lain? tanya sendiri mengapa orang kita senang diperdaya? Tamak, hidung tinggi, discriminasi menyebabkan kita hilang diri, tak baca sejarah? Apabila semua menjadi teruk orang asing masuk campur.. Ini semua orang kita yang buat, sendiri tidak sedar ditipu, tak buat persediaan untuk globalization..

Sekarang bukan negara kita kena jajah, hanya sebuah syarikat kereta yang rugi wang kita.. Kalau kau punya wang sering dihisap oleh sebilangan bangsa sendiri yang kaya, tak kan kau tak puas hati? Menjual kereta kepada kita yang tak setanding dengan kualiti dan wang yang kita bayar… Kereta jepun dan europa sebenarnya sama harga dengan kereta kita yang sama segmen, hanya mereka yang kena tax tinggi di negara kita.. Kalau sebuah honda civic yang berharga sama dengan proton waja mana kau pilih? Sudah 20 tahun kita bagi G control P1, berapa wang mereka boros? Kalau wang itu bagi orang yang susah lagi baik bukan? Lihat thailand sekarang.. kerena mereka mengamalkan diplomatic yang bagus mereka tidak pernah dijajah, malah industri kereta lagi baik daripada kita.. malah indonesia pun diikuti..

Orang yang mati share holder itu datuk, orang menteri dan sultan.. Jika kau ada mesti kau orang tinggi yang ingin menguat untung kuat.. Kalau saya beli share P1 di KLSE mesti untung tinggi bila VW umun sudah menbeli P1.. Kau tak ada baca economi ke? Kalau business anda sering rugi, kau ingin terus lagi? Mau rugi sampai issue bangkrap? Saya memang malu melihat orang kita bumiputra yang bangkrap lebih banyak dari bangsa lain.. walaupun dibantu G kita yang generous.. Jika P1 bangkrap, matilah wang kita…

Sorry, ok go back topic..

Porsche do a lot of consultation, and a lot of their tech like VIM is collaborate with Lotus engineering.. Lotus is a R&D center more then a production center last time, before they starting to loss money and sold it to P1.. When P1 take over they starting to mass product.. Now Lotus and P1 same rugi.. haiz.. lihat their financial report last year and this year half quarter…

they do consultation work quite a bit, if i am not wrong, they did hyundai coupe tuning, and i am sure they have provided their services to various other automakers.

It's a new world order, gentlemen. Instead of brute force, the tool this time is economy. And we are all affected by it, one way or another. Economies of scale works if there is healthy competition. But if one company owns so many other car manufacturers, then it is up to them to dictate prices.

Looks like it's heading that way.

- Lotus is more renowned as a engineering consultant rather than a manufacturer. Lotus build cars to manifestate their engineering capabilites/ideas to the masses

- Lotus had been consulting Porsche for years, but not vice versa………there is a part of Lotus in every Porsche, but none of Porsche in every Lotus.

- Porsche dont do so much consultative work………and tuning activities

Ref this article, if VW takeover Proton, die die la all local shareholder……..no say, cuma ikut cakap Jerman laaa…………Haitttt………in the end, ini malaysia sampai bila bila pun kena jajah……….

I like both SUVs actually but i prefer the Cayenne. C'mon guys, appreciate the beauty and style. Besides, we are'nt able to innovate or come out with such a technology marvel here in our very own automotive plants!

normaluser, i agree with u errr… care to share a pix of 'that' Cayenne' with us at paultan.org?

Does anyone notice a grey lowered Cayenne with 21" sports rim in Dang Wangi night spot? It looks damn cool.

"quite tired looking at Porsche… especially those “egg shapped eye”.. Yuks!!"

- hey which part of the world are you from? all i see is countless harriers, lexus rx300 and rx300 wannabes (changed emblem to L). and sick of seeing it too.

dun think that there are that many cayennes on the rd…

but excluding the carrera gt la……

quite tired looking at Porsche… especially those "egg shapped eye".. Yuks!!

Where as Toureg are more macho! Looks more decent!

business problems .

Because it's just simply a Porsche dude. THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_Cayenne

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_Cayenne

Its model is relater to audi q7 and VW toureg..

besides that, porsche and VW have been developing platforms together with porsche for years .. i think more than 50 years already. in fact, VW is the master of platform sharing. VW are currently sharing with SEAT, Skoda, Audi, Porsche…

littlefire85, engines are not the same.

why not Posh develop its own 4×4 concepts? or platform?

the same goes to Audi who develop this R8 only after it acquire Lambo.

Trying to be Cameron Diaz, but you are not. not even close.