got it in the mail from a friend.

http://opstupe.blogspot.com/2007/07/proton-gen2-sedan.html

“However, if the meeting between Proton and VW end without any understanding then is because one or two parties don’t agree in something. Both parties get nothing so it’s more like a LOSE LOSE and not WIN LOSE or WIN WIN.”
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If the meeting is fail, it is indeed P1 GET LOSE situation! VW still moving on!

However, if the meeting between Proton and VW end without any understanding then is because one or two parties don’t agree in something. Both parties get nothing so it’s more like a LOSE LOSE and not WIN LOSE or WIN WIN.

To become a successful person we must always think WIN WIN. You win, I win everybody wins. So if Volkswagen and Proton’s meeting successful, then they think WIN WIN. Volkswagen gets the facilities from Proton to assemble their cars for Asean markets as Proton factory = Toyota factory. Then Proton gets technological supports from Volkswagen.

If you don’t want Proton or our government using the tax payers’ money to help them, you must think WIN WIN, that is make sure Proton success so our government NO NEED TO PROTECT Proton anymore.

PROTECT VS DESTROY

transformers fever!!!!!

STOP THE BUYING, STOP THE SUCKING!

DESTROY(BASHERS)

PROTECT(LOVERS)

June 22, 2007 @ 1:01 am

owh wow, reallly love to have it….just wondering when they let us put the booking moneyyy to have this car…

Another note to the PROTON Engineers/designers, the tail gate should be the LED like the modified Gen2s running on the streets now!!…

Gosh, I am excited!!!

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sounds like one of those sales pitch they used while trying to promote the savvy.

CPS is hardly anything exciting. to makes things worse they again reused an old car.

long time no login, soo many spy photos of potong upcoming models?

whatever potong offers, they won’t be able to reverse the steady and surely declining sales of their products. nearly 2 years of almost constant month over months of declining sales…. is a clear-cut indicator of going to hell.

too late already. but if vw come into the picture, then maybe people will cheer up, forgive potong past sins (many of their sins are very great) and buy their products. just because vw own some of their shares. the best part, when that happened, vw car technology are yet to be incorporated in potong car. sigh…

i’m excited for the new models coming out…the gen2 sedan looks preety good…..hahah….any comments on the compro engines though??? anyone having one?? the protons i used to drive didnt have the campros…

On June 22, 2007 @ 4:51 pm, you said:

….Plus Unicons was referring to going up Genting and from what you say I’m sure you’re one of those ppl who keeps the air cond going while driving up hill to Genting. Well that’s just you….. AND

….I personally do not think, of all the current Gen2 engine climbing up Genting would be problematic. If it so happen to be then it’s just plain bad luck. You get for what you pay for….

now you said is an example from you. That day you were the one who said I’m referring to going up Genting. Anyway, forget about it.

Driven2020. Well, I hope you can find your friend(s) or other people here in this forum or other places to give you more info. Sorry if I’m too harsh with you. Happy motoring to you.

tec96248,

Uneasy? Hmm why would you think so?

The air density relating to turbocharging was in response to your statement whether colder air would benefit engine output nothing more.

==just my assumption since u were arguing most of it.
the mentioned items, density oxygen and cold air was brought out by u. my friend, please read again of what u have commented earlier then u will know why i questioned u and trying to tell u.

a car lovers or drivers will always hope and ask for more. even other things like home appliances a lot to be expected from human living life. engine performance is just part of it. if u think so much about cost, then the whole idea of improvement or upgrading will be stuck and way back to the starting point. additional cost is required of course for additional items, u have to calculate it like an accounter, then u know why toyota still can be sell even the prices are expensive compared to proton. if u wanna know more detail about it, please check out basic of engineering history or automotive history. please do look at a whole thing. do enjoy it, cars is part of life….hahaha.

The Unicons said,
June 22, 2007 @ 9:57 pm

To tec96248, I’m tired to explain to Driven2020. hahaha….

i hope so, this is a last time to let him get the whole picture. the rest to be, forget it. i will enjoy the rest………..hahaha.

Nobody is underminding anybody. Since this is an open blog for us to discuss no harm chatting about it right? Who knows you might know something I don’t and this can be a good place to share info. If not no point having an automotive blog anyway.

Genting to me is just an example nothing more. Good day and happy motoring.

I can call myself a “little” test car driver and now in my very late 20s. I drove my aunt. Mercedes Benz C-Class 1st generation for 3 years (later sold) at the same time with Proton Saga 1.3(M) 1st generation 7 to 8 years – the car served my parents and me for 15 years or so, aunt. let me drive Honda Civic Sedan 1.6 i-VTEC 6th Generation for nearly 4 years (after she sold her Merz), now Honda also sold currently driving my dad’s (when he asks me to take over wheels) and my own one plus one time BMW 3 Series (E46) with many other test drive when new cars launch. Anyway, never test drive pick-up and 4×4 before because personally I prefer passenger car.

Well, Mr. Paul Tan. Please help on these. Driven2020 seems still doesn’t understand all these normal car engines…. always talk about turbo charged engines etc.

To tec96248, I’m tired to explain to Driven2020. hahaha….

Uneasy? Hmm why would you think so?

The air density relating to turbocharging was in response to your statement whether colder air would benefit engine output nothing more.

Additions to the base engine will only mean cost increase. Whom ever said forced induction was cheap? The VW’s 1.4L TSI is a wonderful example. Loads of power but reasonable mileage. Biggest downside is cost and complexity.

Pros and cons or not that’s just you. You want to branch out of the conversation you’re welcomed to.

Proton GL description is correct relating to CPS+VIM. Long runners benefit for the low end RPM spectrum. When the engine starts to suffocate at higher RPMS the CPS will engage to change the cam profile to allow better breathing. At the same time the VIM will engage to route the air to the shorter runner.

Assuming the CPS changeover and the VIM shorter runner does not engages until it reaches 5000RPMS; then what’s the difference with a VIM+CPSless engine with the intake runner the same length as the longer runner in the VIM if you are running below 5000RPMs which is more than enough for daily use? Can’t you see the point I’m making? Why not use the R&D to refine the engine even further whilst keeping the production cost low? Wouldn’t you personally think that be nicer? That’s my opinion.

Of course I do not know what RPM that CPS+VIM operates is because I’ve said many times there has not been alot of patent info on this. If you have it does not hurt to share it right? There is nothing wrong trying to understand what CPS+VIM has to offer.

Everyone has the right to get whatever they want. It’s your own hard earn money anyway right?

Hope they export this version to Australia coz they appeciate bigger boots.