Comments on: Proton launches Waja and Neo in Indonesia

By: Anak Gaul

Anak Gaul — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:14:12 +0000

Malaysia-Malaysia..
We love Japanese car, if you want to know how about Proton in indonesia
Just take a look at TAXI, WAJA is now TAXI in INDONESIA, Proton Wira too, then Persona and friends aren’t Bought now.. See you 4 years later proton, hope you’ll go back to Malaysia

By: normalcardriver

normalcardriver — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:47:39 +0000

I say let the Indonesian decide what is good for themselves.I think it is not fair for us to say what is right or wrong for them.Let them judge if it is good they will take it.
They might want to buy for a different reason than us and there is no point for us to do free advertisement for the Japanese.
Indonesia and Malaysia have been close for many years and is even moving closer.It is only natural that they support their neighbours effort to improve its automotive industry.

By: PTAllTheBest

PTAllTheBest — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 22:24:38 +0000

the indonesia country is more update and modern than us. we are still old fashioned

By: peYno-1

peYno-1 — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:35:47 +0000

indonesioan minded not like malaysian mehh
Most malaysian hv mindset “Japanese is always good”.. sebab dulu kena jajah dgn jepun
but not Indonesian… Bravo Indonesian.. u dont hv 1st class facilities but ur mentality is 1st class “kewl”

By: sxe10r

sxe10r — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 00:30:55 +0000

July 20, 2007 @ 9:21 am

BrakeFader said,
July 20, 2007 @ 8:33 am

They are repeating their strategy to sell Proton Waja 1.6 in Australia for $27,990-$29,990 when you can get a Honda Civic 1.7 $23,950, Mitsubishi Lancer 1.8 $23,490, Hyundai Sonata 2.4 $23,990, Subaru Impreza 2.0 $25,990 and Toyota Corolla 1.8 $24,590.

It is Waja 1.6 only sell $ 28k ??? how come Honda can sell 24k ?? Lancer 24k?? r u sure ppl will look for waja ?? the most expensive o

By: Joe Ooi

Joe Ooi — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:58:12 +0000

blake said,
July 20, 2007 @ 10:25 pm

Iâ€™ve created this poll to see which car people prefer.

Proton Waja vs Neo Poll
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Why don’t cow vs bull, or crack pot vs black kettle?

By: proton.GL..

proton.GL.. — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:12:08 +0000

http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00411aq6.jpg

i like it too

By: blake

blake — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:25:12 +0000

I’ve created this poll to see which car people prefer.

Proton Waja vs Neo Poll: http://polls.hopto.org/polls.aspx?poll=88&partner=0&Desc=Proton-Waja-vs-Proton-Neo

By: nizam80

nizam80 — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:53:37 +0000

2ST said,
July 20, 2007 @ 7:03 pm

“Remarks : People who support proton here are the same people who support malaysian football team.no life at all.kahkah.sorry dude.”

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Wrong. People who support Proton here are the same people who support Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea, and Arsenal.

By: nizam80

nizam80 — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:45:28 +0000

szw said,
July 20, 2007 @ 3:58 pm

“i wan proton waja CPS.
i heard it hav 125 bhp.
woohoo !”

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125 bhp or 140 bhp?? heheheheheh…

By: wong

wong — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:11:09 +0000

wish proton all the best ,dont understand why some some people are always angry, cheer up, let them do their job,

By: hyundai

hyundai — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:46:50 +0000

What??? Neo is pricier than Waja?? Ridiculous price!

By: zulkifli6

zulkifli6 — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:50:01 +0000

kat indon indon ramai yg kaya2, berlambak 7 series kat jakarta tu.

By: zulkifli6

zulkifli6 — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:47:44 +0000

kat indon, vios dgn honda city jadik teksi je, sebab harga dia murah kat sana. proton letak harga mahal, konon2 nak tunjuk kerete tu best la.

By: 2ST

2ST — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:03:40 +0000

Its trial and error by proton marketing monkey team.Same goes by design donkey team.
Remarks : People who support proton here are the same people who support malaysian football team.no life at all.kahkah.sorry dude.

By: haroldz

haroldz — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:02:33 +0000

d indonesia change so much after pak suharto stepped now.
they bcome more liberal n secular.
dat explain y their Indonesia pop sound better than msia pop.
opss, wrong topic.
my colleague from indonesia said japanese car r cheaper there.
by selling more expensive models, wot make proton think they can outsell their competitors?
risky move

By: proton.GL..

proton.GL.. — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:33:38 +0000

i did own honda ,toyota -good car ,problem yeah sometime not much,
but, its boring, dont even car to wash it, never appreciate how its look, just a plain car,

with fault and comments somehow i can appreciate proton,

By: szw

szw — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:58:34 +0000

i wan proton waja CPS.
i heard it hav 125 bhp.
woohoo !

By: kei9

kei9 — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:57:13 +0000

kinad cheap for all that huh? dont y’all agree?

By: thecrash

thecrash — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:14:28 +0000

Price for new SEDAN.. soft launch tomorrow, launch 15 Aug.

Basic – rear drum brake
1.6MT Solid —– 45,350
1.6AT Solid —– 48,350
1.6MT Metallic — 45,800
1.6AT Metallic — 48,800

Medium – airbag, rear disc brake,foldable RR seat, fog lamp,mp3, rear spoiler
1.6MT Metallic — 49,800
1.6AT Metallic — 52,800

High – Captor, airbag, abs, mp3, rear disc brake,foldable seat, fog lamp, safetint, rear spoiler
1.6AT Metallic — 55,800

All inclusive insurance, EWP, first aid kit, safety triangle

By: kei9

kei9 — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 06:28:08 +0000

wait and see

thats all WE can say…..no more crap….

By: engtaokia

engtaokia — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 05:22:37 +0000

i tot indon ppl more prefer 4wd rather than coupe/sedan rite?
watever lah, just wait and see how the sales going on later.

By: ylss

ylss — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 05:17:21 +0000

Hi am an Indonesian working as a consultant here in Malaysia. I own cars both in Malaysia and in Indonesia.

A few weeks ago, I visited my home country and saw a little Savvy in a jammed street of jakarta and I was delighted, I thought it is about time Proton enter Indonesia market. And Savvy was a good choice to begin with, because I believe there is nothing directly compete with it.

When I came across the this article, again I am happy to see that Neo and Waja are coming to Indo. I think the style is modern enough to draw the interest of people there (don’t think Wira will cut it) and I have respect to Proton because it has become an established national car product (while we don’t have one).

When I see the price, I can’t help to think, it is too high ..
Reason, Honda Jazz is about 155 million rupiah (about same as Yaris, FYI jazz is so overpriced here in Malaysia, because in Indonesia, Jazz is always cheaper than City). Those are the cars Neo competing with directly. With the service support network of Honda and Toyota in Indonesia, Proton has to be so much better in quality than those offered by Honda and Toyota.

Those are just my opinion … cheers ..

By: wheregotcar

wheregotcar — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:37:55 +0000

i have a fren back in jakarta, who is thrilled to have neo in their shores! they’re so used to all toyota cars that they jz dont feel all the hype that we malaysian have for them. those cars are cheap, so most middle class ppl can afford them. Plus, vios and avanza are commonly used for taxis and rented cars. with proton cars entering indon market will provide variety, change of taste and the luxury of choice for indon consumers..

not like in bolehland we u all gloat and bangga over a mere vios, city or civic.. padahal org indons n thais sume yawn and kata “boooriinggg…”

By: neo2

neo2 — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:30:58 +0000

@xylencia, here is a thought. One of the major reason Proton car is priced at the higher than any other cars in Indonesia is because the materials sourced from Malaysia is “extremely” high. Coupled with inefficiency in manufaturing and lack of economy of scale (meaning Proton is currently producing way below its break-even capacity due to unable to market its poor cars in Malaysia as well as oversea market, if there is ever an oversea market), that is the selling price calculated by Proton.
The major reasons behind the “extremely” high priced materials is due to P1 sourced its supplies from its pathetic political-linked cronies who supplies inferior materials at very high margin price to P1. The supply chain that causes the fall of P1 is silently allowed by Bolehland G. Why Toyota can even challenge the mighty General Motor in the US very land? Its rigorious quality control in manufacturing and sourcing highest quality materials at lowest price are their strategies. Toyota has advanced manufacturing and investing their profit into R&D, investing hybrid engine, constantly improving engine technology and of course most of all manage the company on professional basis.
When I look back at P1, it just a grown-up spoilt child that is contended with its poor success in its very own Bolehland. How long do you think that P1 could survive without G’s umbrella? 200 years when other car makers are making hydrogen cars? I pity you, P1.

By: moto_moto

moto_moto — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 03:41:42 +0000

dont tipu indonesians la… already pity them because natural disasters always hit the land. hopefully they dont export gen2=disaster

By: joe203

joe203 — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 03:39:08 +0000

If there is one product from proton that can compete internationally, it is Satria Neo. The looks are second to none. The quality.. we just have to wait and see.

By: torishimeyakuin

torishimeyakuin — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 03:22:47 +0000

And please don’t tell me..At the end of the day, those Neos and Wajas are going there just to be another engagement in Indonesia Taxi fleets.

Anyway P1, don’t worry. All the Protonions are always behind you but all the true warriors out there are waiting excitedly to rumble you….Yeah keep coming boy !
All the armies of Sunrise Land are always in position, ready to engage your advancement.

Let the battle begins…

By: torishimeyakuin

torishimeyakuin — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 03:07:23 +0000

Let the battle begins..on the flattened land of Indonesia.
It will be a fair match without any stinky suppressed invincible ‘hands’.

Let’s see how each warrior in this automotive battlefield determine their survival in the challenging but fairer arena with their tactical strategies.

And let’s wait to see who will be hailed and who will be drained. Who is wiser and who is just another fool.

By the way, with current publicized strategy they’ve engaged, all the lads and sundry know whether P1 is a glorious or just another…..

Let the battle begins….YEAHHHHHHH !!! General, deploy your armies…charge !

By: NoToLowQuality

NoToLowQuality — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 02:52:14 +0000

Prem3377
“good move proton!!!and they wont be as demanding as malaysians!!!!”

why r we having such people with such mentality in Malaysia… no wonder it will be hard for us to achieve Vision 2020….