From a sometime-can-reliable source:Proton will name this as..Proton GenSet.
Hope proton dont sue me later on aa..Tq
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I don’t think they will call it GenSet… it more like GenTolak…. KEkekekek…

Anywayz i heard that even they still using old engine, but they at least tune the engine with different output for each car.. look at Mazda, if that car is manual they tune the Hp more, while if the car is Auto, it will tune it for more torque.. Well, the engine is still same but still they can tune out 2 different kind of profile.. Why not us? Even BMW, VW also update their engine in CC, ECU, Injection system for more better FC, with no added cost! Look at the new toureq facelift! That why even the engine is old, they manage to improve the output! Compare to P1 old Campro, Ehmm.. The Hp n torque until now still the same..

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wanna tune no problem! just masuk workshop sure tune kau kau sure can squeeze some ponies out of it hahaha

High performance cars like the Viper, 911 and Corvette can justify a four-wheel disc brake system, especially if their owners participate in some form of sanctioned racing activity on the weekends. The rest of us get more of a benefit from the lower cost of drum brakes. Expecting every vehicle built today to come with four-wheel disc brakes would require an cross-the-board
increase in purchase price, and that could stop new car buyers much quicker than any brake system.”

I agree with you, so many categories of cars nowadays that it is better to class them by weight and cc. I would put this model in comparison with nissan sentra 1.6. But there are lots of ppl here pretending to know alot bout cars. sheessh!!

July 23, 2007 @ 2:35 pm

Since Proton has officially confrm on its website tat the Gen2 Sedan do not hav CPS (110hp and 148Nm is non-CPS engine), tis is jus taufu on new skin…not worth the money. RM55k loaded is no cheaper than its hatchback sibling; RM45k basic is overcharge vs. its Wira sedan predescessor.

Some here argue tat it is 1,200kg car, comparable to Civic…pls dun lie to yorself…tis is not Civic. Tis car weigh 1,200kg not bcoz it is big, but bcoz Potong is still using cheap heavy bulky cast iron & steel when the whole world is oredi using light weigh aluminium. Be honest lah!
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kingglim no use to argue about the enginelerr as long we know it deep in our hearts ( actually knew about it long long time ago) just let it be lo. if eventually CPS+VIM gimmick really comes out lets see the pricing impact. if around 55k, I’d see some angry users who bought the previous version without the gimmick knocking on p1’s door hahaha.

last i read from here the hoo haa rumored “Shin” (means real in bahasa jepun) Campro will be out early july. now saying gentu with longer a$$ come out mid august. but it was all another udara panas…T_T.

where are u ar o dear shin campro? i wait u long time until madonna too old to sing “musiiiiiiiiiiic”

but wonder how much would it cost? 60K? 65K? better off getting a 2nd hand ek4 1.6L dohc vtec for 45K or even a all new vios for a turn lolz

yahloh that engine was introduced to eg series civics waaay back 15 years ago. further refined with vtec-e then penultimate combination of vtec-e + vtec to give 130ps but manage 20km/l manual on 10-15 test modes!

saying so that is a very very very dated engine to mingle about lerr

proton genset? hmm sounds tricky would be cautious before buying one who knows it breaks down during the time when it is needed the most haahaha

“nizam,

130ps is roughly 127hp bit tricky here hehe.

obviously campro would have higher torque lah u comparing it with 1.6L to a 1.5L mah

but i flip through the tech spec the very very veyr dated 1992 d15b single cam vtec is rated 130ps@6800rpm 138nm@5200rpm. this is grossly far away from ur value of 114nm kekeke”

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Driven2020,

Hmm… i’ve mentioned earlier, “if i’m not mistaken” regarding the engine specs. Its been quite a long time, so i may have forgotten the actual specs. So, according to specs, in this case the 1.5 litre D15B SOHC VTEC beats the 1.6 litre DOHC CPS hands down. U r rite also that its not fair to compare between a 1.5 and a 1.6 litre engine.

July 23, 2007 @ 3:13 pm

Driven2020 said,
July 23, 2007 @ 11:04 am

“ciplak 1992 d15b oso pumps 127hp ler and thats just a 1493 cc from a sohc vtec valvetrain so really no big deal actually.”

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Hmm… D15B SOHC VTEC from 1992, rite? If i’m not mistaken, this engine pumps out 130hp@6800rpm, and max torque at roughly 114Nm@5200rpm. I’m sure the upcoming CPS has more torque than that. Even the current Campro without Variable Valve Timing has 148Nm@6000rpm.

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nizam,

130ps is roughly 127hp bit tricky here hehe.

obviously campro would have higher torque lah u comparing it with 1.6L to a 1.5L mah

but i flip through the tech spec the very very veyr dated 1992 d15b single cam vtec is rated 130ps@6800rpm 138nm@5200rpm. this is grossly far away from ur value of 114nm kekeke

Sorry Paul. Out of topic again but to clear things here.

To MyBoy, as I said: Try to find any car manufacturers, everytime come out 1 new design or model together with new engine(s)?. Did you read my word especially EVERYTIME, 1 NEW DESIGN / MODEL TOGETHER WITH NEW ENGINES?

By the way, Proton come out Campro 1.6 together with Gen.2 then again Campro 1.3 fitted in Gen.2. Proton Waja came out fitted with Mitsubishi 1.6 engine. Now also with Campro 1.6. Upcoming facelift Proton Waja and Proton Gen.2 will come with new engines. Campro CPS + VIM. Sound familiar?
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We are talking about post 2000 models are we? So the answer is yes. BMW 3 Series have NEW engine on its debut and another NEW engine somewhere around its midlife facelift.

dun worry.. his royal majesty tuanku mizan will officiate at night in line with perasmian bulan kemerdekaan. its purpose to attract more customer in conjunction with 50th merdeka.. hope this strategy success.

wong..
u rite.. this time engine retuning for more smooth drive also with spacious interior..