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	<title>Comments on: Dodge Charger Daytona vs Honda Odyssey</title>
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		<title>By: 4G63T DSM</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/21/dodge-charger-daytona-vs-honda-odyssey/#comment-101677</link>
		<dc:creator>4G63T DSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The torque thing is endemic to cars in malaysia since we dont have good diesels and big engines.

I have driven several Minivans with the big engine options and there are no complaints on power. Most of them equipped with the optional big engine will run to 0-100kmh in under 9 seconds (thats a whole lot faster than your average sedan here in Malaysia). The 3.5v6 in the Ody is amazing, so as to the other oferings (3.5 VQ series from nissan Quest, the 3.8 in Chryslers and Fords...etc)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The torque thing is endemic to cars in malaysia since we dont have good diesels and big engines.</p>
<p>I have driven several Minivans with the big engine options and there are no complaints on power. Most of them equipped with the optional big engine will run to 0-100kmh in under 9 seconds (thats a whole lot faster than your average sedan here in Malaysia). The 3.5v6 in the Ody is amazing, so as to the other oferings (3.5 VQ series from nissan Quest, the 3.8 in Chryslers and Fords&#8230;etc)</p>
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		<title>By: bobdbilder</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/21/dodge-charger-daytona-vs-honda-odyssey/#comment-101560</link>
		<dc:creator>bobdbilder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, if you ever drive an MPV one of the most awful thing is the next to useless torque.  My wife got one and I do spend some time in it (usually after being beaten and threatened).  Having that Honda with load is probably a good thing as the standard factory setup was for loading (typical use) and higher center of gravity.  But an MPV has awful body roll. Feels like toppling over when you take a corner.  Definitely understeers and hard to correct it. Ok on a straight line.  The English wont even call it a car.  So, in terms of suspension, both really suck.  The Honda should get a better lap time with 40 years of difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, if you ever drive an MPV one of the most awful thing is the next to useless torque.  My wife got one and I do spend some time in it (usually after being beaten and threatened).  Having that Honda with load is probably a good thing as the standard factory setup was for loading (typical use) and higher center of gravity.  But an MPV has awful body roll. Feels like toppling over when you take a corner.  Definitely understeers and hard to correct it. Ok on a straight line.  The English wont even call it a car.  So, in terms of suspension, both really suck.  The Honda should get a better lap time with 40 years of difference.</p>
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		<title>By: 4G63T DSM</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/21/dodge-charger-daytona-vs-honda-odyssey/#comment-101343</link>
		<dc:creator>4G63T DSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 00:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minivans have come a long way.
While we performance types are trying to ligthen our rides by ounces at a time.... Its even more telling for the performance aspect that they loaded the van with 200kg of strippers. 200kg will bottom out the suspension on most of our road going cars. 

I remember taking raod trips with the original Chrysler &quot;Magic wagons&quot; and they were god awfull to drive. That was a late 80s model.....Ford&#039;s truck based Aerostar were just as bad if not worst. 

However, with increased competition from the Japanese (and now the Koreans) we have minivans that are spacious, comfortable, surprisingly easy to drive and handle pretty much like a big car (if you can get over the usuall body roll due to softer suspension.) 

What the clip failed to mention is the advancement in handling is not solely due to the vehicle. Tyre technology has come a long way as well.

So yes, minivans have gone a loooong way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minivans have come a long way.<br />
While we performance types are trying to ligthen our rides by ounces at a time&#8230;. Its even more telling for the performance aspect that they loaded the van with 200kg of strippers. 200kg will bottom out the suspension on most of our road going cars. </p>
<p>I remember taking raod trips with the original Chrysler &#8220;Magic wagons&#8221; and they were god awfull to drive. That was a late 80s model&#8230;..Ford&#8217;s truck based Aerostar were just as bad if not worst. </p>
<p>However, with increased competition from the Japanese (and now the Koreans) we have minivans that are spacious, comfortable, surprisingly easy to drive and handle pretty much like a big car (if you can get over the usuall body roll due to softer suspension.) </p>
<p>What the clip failed to mention is the advancement in handling is not solely due to the vehicle. Tyre technology has come a long way as well.</p>
<p>So yes, minivans have gone a loooong way.</p>
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		<title>By: badsoulfly</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/21/dodge-charger-daytona-vs-honda-odyssey/#comment-101150</link>
		<dc:creator>badsoulfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>american stupid job...like BUSH...IT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>american stupid job&#8230;like BUSH&#8230;IT</p>
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		<title>By: indigo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/21/dodge-charger-daytona-vs-honda-odyssey/#comment-101112</link>
		<dc:creator>indigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charger daytona, the legend. Old school tech with big engine...handling sure not as well. The big spoiler and nose cone resemble the workaround to tackle aerodynamic problems. No point to compare!!! American muscles are wild beast, zero handling virtually. I love American Muscles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charger daytona, the legend. Old school tech with big engine&#8230;handling sure not as well. The big spoiler and nose cone resemble the workaround to tackle aerodynamic problems. No point to compare!!! American muscles are wild beast, zero handling virtually. I love American Muscles</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Tan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>motherker: yes, i know. got invite to the launch, early august. will keep you guys updated. it is the type R sedan, not the 3-door european type R.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>motherker: yes, i know. got invite to the launch, early august. will keep you guys updated. it is the type R sedan, not the 3-door european type R.</p>
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		<title>By: mitlanevo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/21/dodge-charger-daytona-vs-honda-odyssey/#comment-100925</link>
		<dc:creator>mitlanevo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>motherker, u mean the 3 dr Type-R?

anyway, this video is pointless, if they wanna prove that new tech is better than old tech, why not compare Datsun 120Y with Kancil???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>motherker, u mean the 3 dr Type-R?</p>
<p>anyway, this video is pointless, if they wanna prove that new tech is better than old tech, why not compare Datsun 120Y with Kancil???</p>
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		<title>By: szw</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/21/dodge-charger-daytona-vs-honda-odyssey/#comment-100900</link>
		<dc:creator>szw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>american loves straight lines oni...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>american loves straight lines oni&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: darkteror</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/21/dodge-charger-daytona-vs-honda-odyssey/#comment-100889</link>
		<dc:creator>darkteror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 08:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lolx hahaha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lolx hahaha</p>
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		<title>By: ingolstadt</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/21/dodge-charger-daytona-vs-honda-odyssey/#comment-100866</link>
		<dc:creator>ingolstadt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 07:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>side note: 

OMG our Odyssey looked so damn good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>side note: </p>
<p>OMG our Odyssey looked so damn good.</p>
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		<title>By: ingolstadt</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/21/dodge-charger-daytona-vs-honda-odyssey/#comment-100865</link>
		<dc:creator>ingolstadt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 07:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alpha0201 said,
July 22, 2007 @ 12:56 pm 

Iâ€™m not sure why people people whine about this clip as it clearly show how far the technological has become today compared to the yester-years. If you place the stock 2007 Dodge Charger SRT8 head to head with stock Dodge Charger Daytona, surely itâ€™ll beat the old ones by a mile.
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I Second ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alpha0201 said,<br />
July 22, 2007 @ 12:56 pm </p>
<p>Iâ€™m not sure why people people whine about this clip as it clearly show how far the technological has become today compared to the yester-years. If you place the stock 2007 Dodge Charger SRT8 head to head with stock Dodge Charger Daytona, surely itâ€™ll beat the old ones by a mile.<br />
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<p>I Second ..</p>
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		<title>By: ingolstadt</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/21/dodge-charger-daytona-vs-honda-odyssey/#comment-100864</link>
		<dc:creator>ingolstadt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 07:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Tan said,
July 22, 2007 @ 4:52 am 

they are just showing you how far technology has come.
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I for one couldn&#039;t comprehend WHY there are commentors here who don&#039;t understand whats the point of this comparison. 

Malaysians are sometimes shockingly idiotic. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Tan said,<br />
July 22, 2007 @ 4:52 am </p>
<p>they are just showing you how far technology has come.<br />
=============================================</p>
<p>I for one couldn&#8217;t comprehend WHY there are commentors here who don&#8217;t understand whats the point of this comparison. </p>
<p>Malaysians are sometimes shockingly idiotic. . .</p>
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		<title>By: silv3r</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/21/dodge-charger-daytona-vs-honda-odyssey/#comment-100857</link>
		<dc:creator>silv3r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 06:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice...will be launching in malaysia...
kewl...very rare things to get last time..
:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice&#8230;will be launching in malaysia&#8230;<br />
kewl&#8230;very rare things to get last time..<br />
 <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: motherker</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/21/dodge-charger-daytona-vs-honda-odyssey/#comment-100855</link>
		<dc:creator>motherker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 06:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OUT OF TOPIC:

PAUL!!
U MUST READ THIS!!
honda civic type r gets launched in malaysia!!

http://asia.vtec.net/news/myJDMCTR/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OUT OF TOPIC:</p>
<p>PAUL!!<br />
U MUST READ THIS!!<br />
honda civic type r gets launched in malaysia!!</p>
<p><a href="http://asia.vtec.net/news/myJDMCTR/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://asia.vtec.net/news/myJDMCTR/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: alpha0201</title>
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		<dc:creator>alpha0201</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 04:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure why people people whine about this clip as it clearly show how far the technological has become today compared to the yester-years. If you place the stock 2007 Dodge Charger SRT8 head to head with stock Dodge Charger Daytona, surely it&#039;ll beat the old ones by a mile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure why people people whine about this clip as it clearly show how far the technological has become today compared to the yester-years. If you place the stock 2007 Dodge Charger SRT8 head to head with stock Dodge Charger Daytona, surely it&#8217;ll beat the old ones by a mile.</p>
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		<title>By: torishimeyakuin</title>
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		<dc:creator>torishimeyakuin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 03:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah chill off guys..It&#039;s just a test that prove even a big arse MPV with more extra loads of nice buts on its back, Honda Odyssey still can beat decently the classic sportier Dodge Daytona on that track. The reason how and why ?

Certainly because of the advance of technology which make nothing is impossible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah chill off guys..It&#8217;s just a test that prove even a big arse MPV with more extra loads of nice buts on its back, Honda Odyssey still can beat decently the classic sportier Dodge Daytona on that track. The reason how and why ?</p>
<p>Certainly because of the advance of technology which make nothing is impossible.</p>
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		<title>By: mzfnd</title>
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		<dc:creator>mzfnd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 02:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha ha ha. Strange comparison, but the Odyssey won by more than 2secs against a muscle car. Cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha ha. Strange comparison, but the Odyssey won by more than 2secs against a muscle car. Cool.</p>
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		<title>By: ab</title>
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		<dc:creator>ab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 01:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i remembered top gear put a stock Honda Accord against a Aston DB5 drag race and the Accord won!</description>
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		<title>By: longdongsilver</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/21/dodge-charger-daytona-vs-honda-odyssey/#comment-100804</link>
		<dc:creator>longdongsilver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 22:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the American Odyssey. USDM market only. The Charger still looks cool, especially if you&#039;re Joe Dirt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the American Odyssey. USDM market only. The Charger still looks cool, especially if you&#8217;re Joe Dirt.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Tan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they are just showing you how far technology has come.</description>
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		<title>By: PTAllTheBest</title>
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		<dc:creator>PTAllTheBest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that Odyssey handling is quite good. sometime, comparison mustn&#039;t be from same category then our world will be lots of fun. let me have another race between Odyssey and kancil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that Odyssey handling is quite good. sometime, comparison mustn&#8217;t be from same category then our world will be lots of fun. let me have another race between Odyssey and kancil.</p>
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		<title>By: e-nabilll</title>
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		<dc:creator>e-nabilll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brainless comparison ....like comparing orange and shoes....i guess the producer of this show jus run out of ideas for the next show....can i compare my bicycle with ferari f430 ?? around sepang maybe!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brainless comparison &#8230;.like comparing orange and shoes&#8230;.i guess the producer of this show jus run out of ideas for the next show&#8230;.can i compare my bicycle with ferari f430 ?? around sepang maybe!?</p>
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		<title>By: LittleFire85</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/21/dodge-charger-daytona-vs-honda-odyssey/#comment-100778</link>
		<dc:creator>LittleFire85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That dodge is a sport car... While the Honda is MPV..  Why compare both? Silly.. Nothing to do? Well compare both at the same year of production, category n engines..  Anywayz the dodge only for most track or drag only not cornering.. So in term of stability n comfort, Honda odyseyy should win the day.. But straight 400m? I think the dodge must eat that honda clean..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That dodge is a sport car&#8230; While the Honda is MPV..  Why compare both? Silly.. Nothing to do? Well compare both at the same year of production, category n engines..  Anywayz the dodge only for most track or drag only not cornering.. So in term of stability n comfort, Honda odyseyy should win the day.. But straight 400m? I think the dodge must eat that honda clean..</p>
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		<title>By: w_lighter</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/21/dodge-charger-daytona-vs-honda-odyssey/#comment-100773</link>
		<dc:creator>w_lighter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@hyundai

Bashing purposes ... LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@hyundai</p>
<p>Bashing purposes &#8230; LOL</p>
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		<title>By: hyundai</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/21/dodge-charger-daytona-vs-honda-odyssey/#comment-100764</link>
		<dc:creator>hyundai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dun quite understand the use of this clip...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dun quite understand the use of this clip&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: proton.GL..</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/21/dodge-charger-daytona-vs-honda-odyssey/#comment-100765</link>
		<dc:creator>proton.GL..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>old american just designed for straight line, 
thats why they love drag racing, 
or facinated with its the boring oval circuit racing,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>old american just designed for straight line,<br />
thats why they love drag racing,<br />
or facinated with its the boring oval circuit racing,</p>
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