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	<title>Comments on: The Edge: Car Scrapping Policy approved</title>
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	<description>Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry</description>
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		<title>By: hameed koyakuti</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101752</link>
		<dc:creator>hameed koyakuti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 04:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another crap reporting by the EDGE.............
Gomen dont approve laaaa............!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another crap reporting by the EDGE&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
Gomen dont approve laaaa&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: 2ST</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101731</link>
		<dc:creator>2ST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 02:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oii proton..you aa..haiya..susah mau cakap la..you susah mau paham kah?tutup kedai saje.VW want terminate all the proton vendors if they joint with proton. Good lesson!
(My 156 is come out soon..yeeehaaaaa)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oii proton..you aa..haiya..susah mau cakap la..you susah mau paham kah?tutup kedai saje.VW want terminate all the proton vendors if they joint with proton. Good lesson!<br />
(My 156 is come out soon..yeeehaaaaa)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Tan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101671</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BanyakMasukWorkshop: are you referring to my posts or the comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BanyakMasukWorkshop: are you referring to my posts or the comments?</p>
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		<title>By: BanyakMasukWorkshop</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101667</link>
		<dc:creator>BanyakMasukWorkshop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>paul, you should change your blog from an automotive blog, to  a &quot;conspiracy theory&quot; blog.  no offense meant, but on somedays, you get to read more about that than cars ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paul, you should change your blog from an automotive blog, to  a &#8220;conspiracy theory&#8221; blog.  no offense meant, but on somedays, you get to read more about that than cars <img src='http://s4.paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: intermilan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101634</link>
		<dc:creator>intermilan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if this policy is on ,then the subsidy should be allowed to use to buy any car from any marque... not limited to Proton. 

but bottomline... this will create another unfair distribution of taxpayer money. not that is fair to even exist in the first place.

all of the monies goes to Proton (if purchase of new car is limited to Proton), which then flows into a few &#039;cronies&#039; coffer. 

that&#039;s like taking our money and put in the &#039;cronies&#039; bank account, the normal rakyat just the &#039;medium&#039; to allowing the transfer to be done legally. 

In return, rakyat get some sweetner that are not worth it at all, as car is essentially a liabilities. Banks via their finance arm will get the windfall (i.e. interest charges for loan.. rm5K not enuff to but a car what).

 So does service centre, car seller etc. In the end everybody &#039;happy&#039;, eh?

Guess who gonna be the happiest?

Hope more of you will see this grande scheme in its true form..

or else we, the real rakyat, had and have been truly being completely blind and made senile by the real swindler (please stand up!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if this policy is on ,then the subsidy should be allowed to use to buy any car from any marque&#8230; not limited to Proton. </p>
<p>but bottomline&#8230; this will create another unfair distribution of taxpayer money. not that is fair to even exist in the first place.</p>
<p>all of the monies goes to Proton (if purchase of new car is limited to Proton), which then flows into a few &#8216;cronies&#8217; coffer. </p>
<p>that&#8217;s like taking our money and put in the &#8216;cronies&#8217; bank account, the normal rakyat just the &#8216;medium&#8217; to allowing the transfer to be done legally. </p>
<p>In return, rakyat get some sweetner that are not worth it at all, as car is essentially a liabilities. Banks via their finance arm will get the windfall (i.e. interest charges for loan.. rm5K not enuff to but a car what).</p>
<p> So does service centre, car seller etc. In the end everybody &#8216;happy&#8217;, eh?</p>
<p>Guess who gonna be the happiest?</p>
<p>Hope more of you will see this grande scheme in its true form..</p>
<p>or else we, the real rakyat, had and have been truly being completely blind and made senile by the real swindler (please stand up!).</p>
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		<title>By: LittleFire85</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101632</link>
		<dc:creator>LittleFire85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aril, everyone need to pay tax money.. income tax, service tax, entertaiment tax, bla bla.. the money u pay tax, they return for u just RM5k for 1 car.. Which u will only can be used for 15 years.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aril, everyone need to pay tax money.. income tax, service tax, entertaiment tax, bla bla.. the money u pay tax, they return for u just RM5k for 1 car.. Which u will only can be used for 15 years.. </p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101598</link>
		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this article not true:P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this article not true:P</p>
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		<title>By: Aril</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101585</link>
		<dc:creator>Aril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who said the The subsidy is our money...that is gov money..they earned form taxxes payers...That this as simple...Living here (malaysia) need pay laa...No place is free dude. Even taking a bus need pay..So its up to gov to used their money...Dont this most here pay taxxes...and its only once year depand on salary...So im hoping everyone clear....If dont pay taxxes...so u know what should do rite!!!

Dont hentam sana sini without good reason....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who said the The subsidy is our money&#8230;that is gov money..they earned form taxxes payers&#8230;That this as simple&#8230;Living here (malaysia) need pay laa&#8230;No place is free dude. Even taking a bus need pay..So its up to gov to used their money&#8230;Dont this most here pay taxxes&#8230;and its only once year depand on salary&#8230;So im hoping everyone clear&#8230;.If dont pay taxxes&#8230;so u know what should do rite!!!</p>
<p>Dont hentam sana sini without good reason&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: mecharojak</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101580</link>
		<dc:creator>mecharojak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx/2007/07/23/afx3940063.html

&quot;KUALA LUMPUR (Thomson Financial) - Malaysia&#039;s Second Finance Minister Nor Mohamed Yakcop said Monday the government has not approved any proposal offering subsidies to car owners who voluntarily scrap their old cars and buy new ones made by national car maker Proton.&quot;

&quot;Citing sources, the Edge Financial Daily reported earlier today that the government will offer a 5,000 ringgit subsidy to car owners who voluntarily scrap their old cars, at least 15 years old or older, and replace them with Proton models.&quot;

DENIED BY GAHMEN!!!</description>
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<p>&#8220;KUALA LUMPUR (Thomson Financial) &#8211; Malaysia&#8217;s Second Finance Minister Nor Mohamed Yakcop said Monday the government has not approved any proposal offering subsidies to car owners who voluntarily scrap their old cars and buy new ones made by national car maker Proton.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Citing sources, the Edge Financial Daily reported earlier today that the government will offer a 5,000 ringgit subsidy to car owners who voluntarily scrap their old cars, at least 15 years old or older, and replace them with Proton models.&#8221;</p>
<p>DENIED BY GAHMEN!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Yakcop: Car Scrapping Policy not approved</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101579</link>
		<dc:creator>Yakcop: Car Scrapping Policy not approved</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Edge reported that the policy would be announced by the time the new national budget is announced by mid-September, so there is still some time of slightly less than two months for it to happen. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Edge reported that the policy would be announced by the time the new national budget is announced by mid-September, so there is still some time of slightly less than two months for it to happen. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LittleFire85</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101575</link>
		<dc:creator>LittleFire85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the RM5k is from our tax money from buying our new cars before.. This is fishy, i can give u only RM5k. But if i the Sales Advisor only want to give RM3k, u will mad for sure. A lot of people will bribe to get RM5k for new car? Maybe add RM500, i give u another additional RM2k of discount? This is a way for those irresponsible P1 SA to earn more! 

The scrap vehicles may ended up in third world country, ever wonder why Japanese half-cut are everywhere in Malaysia? In Africa n india, a lot of people still using old caburated engine, so selling the scrap engines or half-cuts to there is also a way of earning. I think the G must set something that 50% of the scrap cars must be recycle, or a lot of person will sell it for their own benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the RM5k is from our tax money from buying our new cars before.. This is fishy, i can give u only RM5k. But if i the Sales Advisor only want to give RM3k, u will mad for sure. A lot of people will bribe to get RM5k for new car? Maybe add RM500, i give u another additional RM2k of discount? This is a way for those irresponsible P1 SA to earn more! </p>
<p>The scrap vehicles may ended up in third world country, ever wonder why Japanese half-cut are everywhere in Malaysia? In Africa n india, a lot of people still using old caburated engine, so selling the scrap engines or half-cuts to there is also a way of earning. I think the G must set something that 50% of the scrap cars must be recycle, or a lot of person will sell it for their own benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: droll</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101567</link>
		<dc:creator>droll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1st. where is the rm5000 coming from? tax payers money? wah, use my money to benefit other people to scrap car which in the end use to buy proton? so benefit the bank, their interest income, and finally benefit proton, while the buyer suffers because the rm5k is given up to take in long loan for a car.

2nd. if this policy becomes hugely successful, where are they going to dump all the old cars??? again use tax money to build a recycling plant? sell besi buruk?

3rd. who will be the one to ascertain the value of the car? the benchmark for setting this will be interesting. should use proxy vehicles in the market. but this is probably scrap value rather than resale value. so it&#039;ll likely be lower than what an owner can get by selling the car unless the car koyak until cannot drive anymore. it&#039;s scrap.....not resale!

4th. but if it is resale, then with all the cars traded in, can someone do some simple touch up and sell the car for more than rm10k each? another money making scheme for somebody?

5th. i think this policy is a step in the right direction. you cannot hope to introduce something like Singapore&#039;s COE overnight as too many problems and it&#039;ll throw the market into chaos.

6th. i&#039;m not entirely convinced it will make a big difference in sales figures for proton in the long run. there may be a small spike.

my 2 sen :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1st. where is the rm5000 coming from? tax payers money? wah, use my money to benefit other people to scrap car which in the end use to buy proton? so benefit the bank, their interest income, and finally benefit proton, while the buyer suffers because the rm5k is given up to take in long loan for a car.</p>
<p>2nd. if this policy becomes hugely successful, where are they going to dump all the old cars??? again use tax money to build a recycling plant? sell besi buruk?</p>
<p>3rd. who will be the one to ascertain the value of the car? the benchmark for setting this will be interesting. should use proxy vehicles in the market. but this is probably scrap value rather than resale value. so it&#8217;ll likely be lower than what an owner can get by selling the car unless the car koyak until cannot drive anymore. it&#8217;s scrap&#8230;..not resale!</p>
<p>4th. but if it is resale, then with all the cars traded in, can someone do some simple touch up and sell the car for more than rm10k each? another money making scheme for somebody?</p>
<p>5th. i think this policy is a step in the right direction. you cannot hope to introduce something like Singapore&#8217;s COE overnight as too many problems and it&#8217;ll throw the market into chaos.</p>
<p>6th. i&#8217;m not entirely convinced it will make a big difference in sales figures for proton in the long run. there may be a small spike.</p>
<p>my 2 sen <img src='http://s2.paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bobdbilder</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101565</link>
		<dc:creator>bobdbilder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than the car&#039;s age as an excuse to scrap cars, why don&#039;t they enforce something that is not as dumb such as restricting CO2 emissions?  Why, cos they can&#039;t enforce it?  We probably wont like it but somebody got to accept the fact that we remove pollutants from the streets.  Including buses and trucks.  We&#039;ll rethink about taking out those cats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than the car&#8217;s age as an excuse to scrap cars, why don&#8217;t they enforce something that is not as dumb such as restricting CO2 emissions?  Why, cos they can&#8217;t enforce it?  We probably wont like it but somebody got to accept the fact that we remove pollutants from the streets.  Including buses and trucks.  We&#8217;ll rethink about taking out those cats.</p>
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		<title>By: proton.GL..</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101557</link>
		<dc:creator>proton.GL..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>desprate ,id say under pressure, good thing is that they have to work something out, positively

and if someone looking for non proton make they can sell it privately for other make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>desprate ,id say under pressure, good thing is that they have to work something out, positively</p>
<p>and if someone looking for non proton make they can sell it privately for other make.</p>
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		<title>By: alpha0201</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101556</link>
		<dc:creator>alpha0201</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The subsidy of up to a maximum of RM5,000 is also not in cash form, but to be used to subsidize the purchase of a new Proton car.&quot;

What I can&#039;t get my money back?! They gonna keep the money &quot;JUST IN CASE&quot; if I ever wanted to buy a Proton?! If people don&#039;t want to buy a Proton, you think anyone want to voluntary give up their car for nothing in return until he/she wanted to buy a Proton?!

This is ridiculous!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The subsidy of up to a maximum of RM5,000 is also not in cash form, but to be used to subsidize the purchase of a new Proton car.&#8221;</p>
<p>What I can&#8217;t get my money back?! They gonna keep the money &#8220;JUST IN CASE&#8221; if I ever wanted to buy a Proton?! If people don&#8217;t want to buy a Proton, you think anyone want to voluntary give up their car for nothing in return until he/she wanted to buy a Proton?!</p>
<p>This is ridiculous!!!</p>
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		<title>By: KidDie</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101551</link>
		<dc:creator>KidDie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Desperate Proton!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Desperate Proton!!!</p>
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		<title>By: avanza</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101547</link>
		<dc:creator>avanza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only to buy proton cars... only proton cars. Can it be more discriminating to other car makes!!! These are the kind of policies that scare foreign car companies away. This government is really unbelievable. SPIT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only to buy proton cars&#8230; only proton cars. Can it be more discriminating to other car makes!!! These are the kind of policies that scare foreign car companies away. This government is really unbelievable. SPIT!</p>
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		<title>By: proton.GL..</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101546</link>
		<dc:creator>proton.GL..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thats why its not mandatory</description>
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		<title>By: jtshin</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101540</link>
		<dc:creator>jtshin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>change 1985 saga to 2007 saga lo.... hahaha.... not even sure whether 1985 saga worth rm5k or not. 1985 saga rust here rust there, engine failure etc.. 

If it really is implemented, Malaysian Government really is like too naive or what... whether is mandatory or not. just like some of you said, those more advance country has better ratio between salary and car price, even for lower income group and those countries all have better public transport system. In malaysia, can say the policy is designed for rich people who can afford the car loans but rich people don&#039;t even care about it while normal or lower income group can&#039;t accept it cos it&#039;s not easy to pay for car loans even got rm5k subsidy. still cost rm20k to get a saga even if got rm5k subsidy ah... poor malaysians...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>change 1985 saga to 2007 saga lo&#8230;. hahaha&#8230;. not even sure whether 1985 saga worth rm5k or not. 1985 saga rust here rust there, engine failure etc.. </p>
<p>If it really is implemented, Malaysian Government really is like too naive or what&#8230; whether is mandatory or not. just like some of you said, those more advance country has better ratio between salary and car price, even for lower income group and those countries all have better public transport system. In malaysia, can say the policy is designed for rich people who can afford the car loans but rich people don&#8217;t even care about it while normal or lower income group can&#8217;t accept it cos it&#8217;s not easy to pay for car loans even got rm5k subsidy. still cost rm20k to get a saga even if got rm5k subsidy ah&#8230; poor malaysians&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rexis</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101537</link>
		<dc:creator>rexis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too many unknown factor here, which department in charge of handling this? Which scrappers can do this? How do they evaluate the scrap value? And use how much subsidy? And subsidy from where???? This is like an entirely new industry, they cant just approve it and its there overnite.

coolguru, forget about environmental friendly when we can buy a 20 years old technology as new car. When gov talk about environmental, I only smell $$$</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many unknown factor here, which department in charge of handling this? Which scrappers can do this? How do they evaluate the scrap value? And use how much subsidy? And subsidy from where???? This is like an entirely new industry, they cant just approve it and its there overnite.</p>
<p>coolguru, forget about environmental friendly when we can buy a 20 years old technology as new car. When gov talk about environmental, I only smell $$$</p>
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		<title>By: coolguru</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101532</link>
		<dc:creator>coolguru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wouldn&#039;t today even without the scraping, you can get up to RM5k discount on Proton?? They&#039;re desperate for sales anyway!

So with the scraping, it probably averages at RM2-3k so still meaningless to scrap it to buy a proton! Might as well sell it where possible and get the cash to buy something else. 

And one weird thing, why would make, quality and market value matter for scraping, haaa... it&#039;d be all flat rate... since the end beneficiary is Proton, national service mah!

Anyway, let&#039;s think it&#039;s more environment friendly...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wouldn&#8217;t today even without the scraping, you can get up to RM5k discount on Proton?? They&#8217;re desperate for sales anyway!</p>
<p>So with the scraping, it probably averages at RM2-3k so still meaningless to scrap it to buy a proton! Might as well sell it where possible and get the cash to buy something else. </p>
<p>And one weird thing, why would make, quality and market value matter for scraping, haaa&#8230; it&#8217;d be all flat rate&#8230; since the end beneficiary is Proton, national service mah!</p>
<p>Anyway, let&#8217;s think it&#8217;s more environment friendly&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nmh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101531</link>
		<dc:creator>nmh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW subsidised 4 new proton car.....I rather pay downpayment 4 a new proton rather than scrap my current &#039;wife&#039;. Many of malaysian can pay downpayment for proton cars and prefer my way.....what the hell d scrapping policy is doin here</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW subsidised 4 new proton car&#8230;..I rather pay downpayment 4 a new proton rather than scrap my current &#8216;wife&#8217;. Many of malaysian can pay downpayment for proton cars and prefer my way&#8230;..what the hell d scrapping policy is doin here</p>
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		<title>By: nmh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101529</link>
		<dc:creator>nmh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another stupid policy from our gov after NAP. Gov think tats they did like japs and singapore, and NO NO.......the car in jap and singapore is demn cheap compared to ours, didnt gov realize bout this matter. Scrap our current NAP, TAX and ROAD TAX first B4 approve scrapping policy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another stupid policy from our gov after NAP. Gov think tats they did like japs and singapore, and NO NO&#8230;&#8230;.the car in jap and singapore is demn cheap compared to ours, didnt gov realize bout this matter. Scrap our current NAP, TAX and ROAD TAX first B4 approve scrapping policy</p>
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		<title>By: volvolover</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101528</link>
		<dc:creator>volvolover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote from this blog &quot;This means that if your car is worth less than RM5,000 you will not get RM5,000 but instead the value of your car, to be determined based on make, quality and market price.&quot;

Who cares about the market price if it&#039;s going to be scrapped. Maybe should determine by the amount of metal can get to scrap the car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote from this blog &#8220;This means that if your car is worth less than RM5,000 you will not get RM5,000 but instead the value of your car, to be determined based on make, quality and market price.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who cares about the market price if it&#8217;s going to be scrapped. Maybe should determine by the amount of metal can get to scrap the car.</p>
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		<title>By: sxe10r</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101524</link>
		<dc:creator>sxe10r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this all P1 fault ... if close it ... G no more to worry or think a lot the stupid policy ....i think 95% of rakyat refuse this policy ... don&#039;t make ppl until merdeka day burn the malaysia flag o ~ G don;t think about the rakyat at all ~ becaful someone pushing u down o ~ ... sorry out of topic ~.~ ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this all P1 fault &#8230; if close it &#8230; G no more to worry or think a lot the stupid policy &#8230;.i think 95% of rakyat refuse this policy &#8230; don&#8217;t make ppl until merdeka day burn the malaysia flag o ~ G don;t think about the rakyat at all ~ becaful someone pushing u down o ~ &#8230; sorry out of topic ~.~ &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Scott</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101523</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I donno why u guys are so &quot;mental block&quot; about this policy, it is volunteer, if u wanna use ure car until it rust and collapse ..go ahead la, but there are many people out there who really wanna get rid of their old car... give this people a chance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I donno why u guys are so &#8220;mental block&#8221; about this policy, it is volunteer, if u wanna use ure car until it rust and collapse ..go ahead la, but there are many people out there who really wanna get rid of their old car&#8230; give this people a chance</p>
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		<title>By: Aril</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101518</link>
		<dc:creator>Aril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>razor_clawzz said,

July 24, 2007 @ 3:40 pm 
Cars older than 15 years? Saga more than 20 years still being sold? Brand new Saga should cost RM5K!
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You said brand New rite..So not old rite....APA LAA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>razor_clawzz said,</p>
<p>July 24, 2007 @ 3:40 pm<br />
Cars older than 15 years? Saga more than 20 years still being sold? Brand new Saga should cost RM5K!<br />
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<p>You said brand New rite..So not old rite&#8230;.APA LAA</p>
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		<title>By: razor_clawzz</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101516</link>
		<dc:creator>razor_clawzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cars older than 15 years?  Saga more than 20 years still being sold? Brand new Saga should cost RM5K!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cars older than 15 years?  Saga more than 20 years still being sold? Brand new Saga should cost RM5K!</p>
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		<title>By: Aril</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101515</link>
		<dc:creator>Aril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep..Optional and volunteer...

Mercedes 1992 is around 28k
CIvic, toyota still higher....

So in that case, dont be so stupid laa to scrap it...AIYA ini pon susah kaa mau pikir...
The lowerst car at the moment is PROTON, So who had PRTON SAGA can laa....
If still want keep it..keep laaa

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep..Optional and volunteer&#8230;</p>
<p>Mercedes 1992 is around 28k<br />
CIvic, toyota still higher&#8230;.</p>
<p>So in that case, dont be so stupid laa to scrap it&#8230;AIYA ini pon susah kaa mau pikir&#8230;<br />
The lowerst car at the moment is PROTON, So who had PRTON SAGA can laa&#8230;.<br />
If still want keep it..keep laaa</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: proton.GL..</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/07/24/the-edge-car-scrapping-policy-approved/#comment-101513</link>
		<dc:creator>proton.GL..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its OPTIONAL
its not that we have to do it,
its not banning of an ageing car running on the road when its still good</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its OPTIONAL<br />
its not that we have to do it,<br />
its not banning of an ageing car running on the road when its still good</p>
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