kesian p1 psl slalu kena kutuk.. ahaha

but in this scenario i dun think p2 is losing out, i mean just assemble the car is not as costly as designing+manufacturing a car from scratch like p1 did. all they have to do is ask big bro (toyota/daihatsu) for another model to assemble je laa.. no problemo

August 1, 2007 @ 5:49 pm

Kembara replacement shld be RM40K max
Viva shld be RM25k max
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Looks like you are still dreaming.. We are not like other country. unless the price that u are stated above is base on Langkawi/labuan price(no tax).

Even the current kembara with 1.3cc priced at 50K+. the replacement is said to be 1.5cc and bigger. 40K for the kembara replacement?naaa…..

“hm, agaknya P2 nak jual apa ya selepas Viva?”

what i heard is they gonna make kenari replacement model, otherwise will be kembara replacement model.

Sekarang ni, P2 sudah keluarkan model Viva untuk replace Kancil..
Pada masa yang sama, Viva taklah murah sangat..
Proton juga ada segmen kereta bajet, iaitu SAGA LMST, RM27k only…

Now, P2 mungkin sudah habih modal, mereka keluarkan “keris” terlalu awal, sampaikan keris tu dah nak tumpul dah sekarang ni…

Tambahan pula, Proton is going to bring us their new born sedan.. Sedan is always a man’s car..P2 tak boleh keluarkan kereta sedan..itu sebab saya kata mereka sudah habis modal..

Kalaupun mereka akan ganti balik model Kembara, berapa ramai sangat rakyat Malaysia ni sukakan 4WD offroad??

Saya rasa, mereka sepatutnya ganti balik model perodua rusa..
Sudah tak banyak van baru yang dikeluarkan sekarang.. (atau P2 disekat supaya tidak produce van? takut kacau itu abang besar avanza sama innova? saya pun tak pasti)

Ura2 mengatakan Proton akan keluarkan MPV tidak lama lagi..
Saya rasa kalau kualitinya setaraf Honda/ Toyota, maybe rakyat Malaysia tidak kisah sekalipun harga cecah RM80k~100k…janji ada kualiti..

Tambahan pula dengan kewujudan Proton i-Care..surely proton akan improve banyak..

hm, agaknya P2 nak jual apa ya selepas Viva?

perodua should learn their lesson. for their upcoming kembara replacement, it should be priced reasonably. below 60K. u guys agree?

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Kembara replacement shld be RM40K max
Viva shld be RM25k max

The root of the problem is that cars are overpriced in this country.

Having long term loans are just band aid solutions. Its like tying to mend a gunshot wound with a “handyplast”. You are still probably going to die or suffer for a long long time.

Consumers have also got to wake up a bit and have some financial education. Do you really NEED a new car when a used car will still take you to and fro work?

Total cost = RM 40K + RM 18K = RM 38K

Monthly installment for 100% financing is RM 38,000/120 month
= RM 316.67 per month.
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Shall be read as,

Total cost = RM 40K + RM 18K = RM 58K

Monthly installment for 100% financing is RM 58,000/120 month
= RM 483.33 per month.

Still consider “high” for low income group, especially those earn below RM 2K per month when factor in the fuel, maintenance, etc!

I will never buy perodua car anymore.

yaa.. mungkin jualan viva lebih baik dari sutera/savvy/suria tetapi mungkin tidak bolh menyaingi kelisa lama dan juga myvi dan diperakui oleh P2 salseman.. jualan tak seperti diharapkan/jangkakan

perodua meramalkan jualan 7000~8000 unit sebulan

1. Marketing strategy yg silap dari perodua…
Seperti mana kita tahu management perodua byk dipengaruhi oleh jepun ..
Di jepun mmg menjadi kebiasaan sesebuah pengeluar kereta mengeluarkan kereta baru setiap tahun atau 2 thn sekali.. malah dalam satu segment yg sama (Kei car) misalnya terdapat 2-3 model yg dikeluarkan dari pengeluar yg sama pada masa yg sama

Jadi perodua cuba menggunakan formula yg sama mengeluarkan rebadge car mereka dlm masa hanya beza 2 thn (myvi dan viva)
Tapi harus diingat, pasaran jepun terlalu besar.. mereka ada 120 juta penduduk
tapi diMalaysia kita ada 25juta… org tu la yg tengok bola.. org tu la yg tgk badminton.. org tu la yg tgk hoki
kebayankan pembeli sudah memiliki myvi , dgn harga dan segmen yg hampir sama… myvi adalah pencabar utama viva.

Viva lebih ditargetkan pada pemandu baru (budak baru kerja) atau 2nd car utk family atau org yg nak upgrade kelisa/kancil pada viva…tetapi kepadakan family ..kebanyakanmereka sudah memiliki myvi.. maka target utama hanya pada budak baru nak beli kereta… tetapi ekonomi negara tak elok sekarang.. pengangguran merata2.. agak sukar bagi budak2 baru nak beli viva yg dikata overprice…. pada org yg merancang nak upgrade kancil/kelisa ke viva.. mereka menghadapi masalah 2nd value yg terlalu rendah .. dan terpaksa memakai kereta lama mereka sampai langsai hutang.

2. persaingan dari pengeluar lain..
Dulu bila kenari 1.0cc dijual dgn harga lebih RM40k.. tiada sama yg komplen ttg harga mahal.. sebab ketika itu (10 thn lepas) tidak byk pesaing utk segmet kei/small car… tetapi sekarang.. bila viva dijual dgn hargaRM44k atau 660cc viva RM29k… ia dianggap mahal bagi sebuah kereta compat seperti viva…
dgn harga RM25~30k . pembeli boleh memiliki 2nd car yg lebih berkuasa seperti kelisa/savvy/sutera atau kenari…atau kereta baru seperti saga
dan dgn harga viva RM44k… pembeli lebih cenderung memiliki myvi /atos/picanto/savvy hi lineyg mempunyai cc dan rang cabin yg lebih luas..

3. kemampuan engine DVVt yg tak seperti diharapkan (over rated)
semasa Myvi dikeluarkan.. kebanyakan pembeli myvi membelinya kerana kepercayaan mana engine dvvt yg dianggap moden .penjualan myvi tinggi walaupun sebelum mereka pandu uji kereta … pendekata expectation mereka terlalu tinggi…. tetapi setelah 2 thn berada dipasaran.. komplen utama pengguna myi adala FC yg tinggi and performance yg tidak seperti diharapkan..
jadi bila kali ini viva dilengkapi dvvt /dohc atau apa pon engine yg dianggap moden… mereka lebih berhati2 dan expectation mereka tidaklah setinggi seperti mana bila myvi dilancarkan

For those who are in dire need of a car, your 3 kids don’t fit on a kapcai anymore, you feel so sad riding with your pregnant wife in the rain, but you don’t have much to spend, this could be a good news to you…

Say the interest is 4.5%

Interest for 10 years = RM 40,000 x 4.5% x 10 years = RM 18,000

Total cost = RM 40K + RM 18K = RM 38K

Monthly installment for 100% financing is RM 38,000/120 month
= RM 316.67 per month.

With this arrangement, it is good strategy to attract low income group from civil servants since there is zero entry cost and low monthly installment! Ha, ha, ha, ……. see whether this marketing strategy will attract the civil servants??????? But nowaday consumers is well informed and looking for value for monies! Viva is way over price small compact car.

Perodua expected that Viva sales will be more impressive than Myvi but it turns out differently. I think it’s time for Perodua to do their analysis and study against the market feedback before it becomes too late.

Regarding the scheme offered by the above mentioned parties, well no objection on that. I believe Malaysian consumers nowadays are wiser…so it’s up to you..

Proton is going to launch their latest Sedan soon. This is a very good and interesting indication . Perodua….you better wake up now…so that you won’t be whacked up later on.

Since Proton announced their new sedan, I hear a lot of praise for Proton. It’s like time Perodua basher is slowly emerging now. Proton basher already gone?
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I guess I’ll give the new CEO benefit of the doubt.