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	<title>Comments on: Jinhua Neoplan to assemble Lotus cars in China</title>
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		<title>By: No made in China Lotus</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/08/13/jinhua-neoplan-to-assemble-lotus-cars-in-china/#comment-105952</link>
		<dc:creator>No made in China Lotus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 06:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Something Lotus generally does not do is respond to individual articles in the media, but this time the British company has stepped up and responded to the recent news that Jinhua Neoplan will be assembling Lotus sports cars in China. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Something Lotus generally does not do is respond to individual articles in the media, but this time the British company has stepped up and responded to the recent news that Jinhua Neoplan will be assembling Lotus sports cars in China. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: narrowband</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/08/13/jinhua-neoplan-to-assemble-lotus-cars-in-china/#comment-105561</link>
		<dc:creator>narrowband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 03:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last time rumours had it that this was supposed to be Proton&#039;s first &#039;supercar&#039;. Thank god they didn&#039;t go ahead with it. I think this car is abit lost in terms of direction, reason for existence, etc.

I&#039;d still take the Lotus Exige or Elise anytime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last time rumours had it that this was supposed to be Proton&#8217;s first &#8216;supercar&#8217;. Thank god they didn&#8217;t go ahead with it. I think this car is abit lost in terms of direction, reason for existence, etc.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d still take the Lotus Exige or Elise anytime.</p>
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		<title>By: proton GL</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/08/13/jinhua-neoplan-to-assemble-lotus-cars-in-china/#comment-105477</link>
		<dc:creator>proton GL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they did talk on producing cheaper price LOTUS here..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they did talk on producing cheaper price LOTUS here..</p>
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		<title>By: szw</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/08/13/jinhua-neoplan-to-assemble-lotus-cars-in-china/#comment-105472</link>
		<dc:creator>szw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>would it be cheaper ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would it be cheaper ?</p>
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		<title>By: fastd</title>
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		<dc:creator>fastd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 09:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ab said,

why not make them in malaysia?


Hahaha... have you heard sometimes ago when P1 will build sports car with price below 200k... my friend said this one laa...... but when I ask him why. He also no idea... apalaaa....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ab said,</p>
<p>why not make them in malaysia?</p>
<p>Hahaha&#8230; have you heard sometimes ago when P1 will build sports car with price below 200k&#8230; my friend said this one laa&#8230;&#8230; but when I ask him why. He also no idea&#8230; apalaaa&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: proton GL</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/08/13/jinhua-neoplan-to-assemble-lotus-cars-in-china/#comment-105416</link>
		<dc:creator>proton GL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there are lotus fan around the world,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are lotus fan around the world,</p>
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		<title>By: ab</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/08/13/jinhua-neoplan-to-assemble-lotus-cars-in-china/#comment-105389</link>
		<dc:creator>ab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 06:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why not make them in malaysia?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why not make them in malaysia?</p>
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		<title>By: BigFish</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/08/13/jinhua-neoplan-to-assemble-lotus-cars-in-china/#comment-105367</link>
		<dc:creator>BigFish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 04:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Unicons, being negative and if it is facts, then Proton have to improve it. If it is blind bashing, then ignore it! Simple as that. Every body entitle to opinion, be it +ve or -ve, but shall be a facts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Unicons, being negative and if it is facts, then Proton have to improve it. If it is blind bashing, then ignore it! Simple as that. Every body entitle to opinion, be it +ve or -ve, but shall be a facts!</p>
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		<title>By: BigFish</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/08/13/jinhua-neoplan-to-assemble-lotus-cars-in-china/#comment-105366</link>
		<dc:creator>BigFish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 04:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that Gen-2 front lamp follow this one???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that Gen-2 front lamp follow this one???</p>
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		<title>By: corolla_KE70</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/08/13/jinhua-neoplan-to-assemble-lotus-cars-in-china/#comment-105365</link>
		<dc:creator>corolla_KE70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 04:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Unicons said,
August 14, 2007 @ 9:57 am 

Well, as long as the business that can make profits for Lotus (Proton) why not? We can not just stick or rely on one basic business such as manufacturer and sell cars in local market. We must also need to expand to other countries, meaning international / global markets plus set up assemble plants in other potential countries etc. that can bring more profits.

Why some people always think so negatively when it comes to the topic about Proton or Proton-Lotus?


&gt;it just can&#039;t be helped.thats some of the malaysians mentality.always underestimate their own homegrown products.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Unicons said,<br />
August 14, 2007 @ 9:57 am </p>
<p>Well, as long as the business that can make profits for Lotus (Proton) why not? We can not just stick or rely on one basic business such as manufacturer and sell cars in local market. We must also need to expand to other countries, meaning international / global markets plus set up assemble plants in other potential countries etc. that can bring more profits.</p>
<p>Why some people always think so negatively when it comes to the topic about Proton or Proton-Lotus?</p>
<p>&gt;it just can&#8217;t be helped.thats some of the malaysians mentality.always underestimate their own homegrown products.</p>
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		<title>By: The Unicons</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/08/13/jinhua-neoplan-to-assemble-lotus-cars-in-china/#comment-105349</link>
		<dc:creator>The Unicons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, as long as the business that can make profits for Lotus (Proton) why not? We can not just stick or rely on one basic business such as manufacturer and sell cars in local market. We must also need to expand to other countries, meaning international / global markets plus set up assemble plants in other potential countries etc. that can bring more profits.

Why some people always think so negatively when it comes to the topic about Proton or Proton-Lotus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as long as the business that can make profits for Lotus (Proton) why not? We can not just stick or rely on one basic business such as manufacturer and sell cars in local market. We must also need to expand to other countries, meaning international / global markets plus set up assemble plants in other potential countries etc. that can bring more profits.</p>
<p>Why some people always think so negatively when it comes to the topic about Proton or Proton-Lotus?</p>
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		<title>By: razor_clawzz</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/08/13/jinhua-neoplan-to-assemble-lotus-cars-in-china/#comment-105341</link>
		<dc:creator>razor_clawzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lotus can&#039;t make GTs, that&#039;s because they excel so much in track performance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lotus can&#8217;t make GTs, that&#8217;s because they excel so much in track performance</p>
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		<title>By: hakim504</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/08/13/jinhua-neoplan-to-assemble-lotus-cars-in-china/#comment-105340</link>
		<dc:creator>hakim504</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is also same with Malaysia, Malaysia Truck And Bus assembling Mercedes Benz in Pekan, Pahang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is also same with Malaysia, Malaysia Truck And Bus assembling Mercedes Benz in Pekan, Pahang.</p>
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		<title>By: mattyboy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/08/13/jinhua-neoplan-to-assemble-lotus-cars-in-china/#comment-105339</link>
		<dc:creator>mattyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair to LittleFire85 that comment he posted seems to sum up every european review I have read of the car - nobody seems to get the point of it. Is was supposed to be a more practical version of a Lotus but, been Elise based, is just as unpractical. It does however suffer in the performance and handling departments compared to the Elise.

If we quote Autocar we get a very similar result.

&quot;But in no way is it an Audi TT rival and for anyone who thinks that the Porsche Cayman could be a difficult car to interact with on a daily basis, the Europa will be hard to comprehend. The cabin is tiny, despite the lower door sills, and skirt-wearers will still consider it a potential pant-flashing zone. Being a Lotus youâ€™d expect it to redress such failings on the road, but it doesnâ€™t. The engine calibration is poor: throttle response is slow, it takes ages to shed revs and it never feels especially fast. The chassis is much better -agile and fun - but along a favourite road the only thing it does better than a base Cayman S is give the drivers wrists a bit more to wriggle with&quot;

&quot;Being a lifelong member of the Colin Chapman fan club, it pains me to say this, but no. The Europa is a car Lotus didnâ€™t need to make, and bar having a slightly more supple ride than an Exige S, the rest of the time, even as an every day car the older car is miles ahead. If you want an Exige with a more supple ride, get an Elise with a hard-top.&quot;

Dont get me wrong, I am Lotus&#039;s biggest fan and an ex-owner of a Mk1 Elise (happy days)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair to LittleFire85 that comment he posted seems to sum up every european review I have read of the car &#8211; nobody seems to get the point of it. Is was supposed to be a more practical version of a Lotus but, been Elise based, is just as unpractical. It does however suffer in the performance and handling departments compared to the Elise.</p>
<p>If we quote Autocar we get a very similar result.</p>
<p>&#8220;But in no way is it an Audi TT rival and for anyone who thinks that the Porsche Cayman could be a difficult car to interact with on a daily basis, the Europa will be hard to comprehend. The cabin is tiny, despite the lower door sills, and skirt-wearers will still consider it a potential pant-flashing zone. Being a Lotus youâ€™d expect it to redress such failings on the road, but it doesnâ€™t. The engine calibration is poor: throttle response is slow, it takes ages to shed revs and it never feels especially fast. The chassis is much better -agile and fun &#8211; but along a favourite road the only thing it does better than a base Cayman S is give the drivers wrists a bit more to wriggle with&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Being a lifelong member of the Colin Chapman fan club, it pains me to say this, but no. The Europa is a car Lotus didnâ€™t need to make, and bar having a slightly more supple ride than an Exige S, the rest of the time, even as an every day car the older car is miles ahead. If you want an Exige with a more supple ride, get an Elise with a hard-top.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dont get me wrong, I am Lotus&#8217;s biggest fan and an ex-owner of a Mk1 Elise (happy days)</p>
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		<title>By: 4G63T DSM</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/08/13/jinhua-neoplan-to-assemble-lotus-cars-in-china/#comment-105329</link>
		<dc:creator>4G63T DSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 00:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Littlefire&#039;s qoute 

&quot;It goes slower and handles poorer than its sisters. In terms of practicality and comfort, it barely improves from its sisters by a whiskey. Still, you will have to climb difficultly into the cockpit. The noise insulation, the seats, the equipment and trimming are nonsense by the standard of grand tourers. How can it compete with Porsche Boxster, Cayman, BMW Z4, Audi TT or Mercedes SLK ?â€&quot;

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Besides, why would anyone want to compare the Europa to the Z4, boxter, TT or SLK in the first place? Buyers of those cars will never even consider the raw edged Lotus. The Europa is only built to a market of Exige and Elise owners that need a softter ride. People dont buy lotuses for comfort nor refinement. They buy them for the pedigree of a track ready car that they can drive on the street.

Lotus cars are special, un-compromised. Make a GT (in the general sense and it has lost its way). Lotuses adds lightness, not weight. 

Want a GT? wait for the new Esprit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Littlefire&#8217;s qoute </p>
<p>&#8220;It goes slower and handles poorer than its sisters. In terms of practicality and comfort, it barely improves from its sisters by a whiskey. Still, you will have to climb difficultly into the cockpit. The noise insulation, the seats, the equipment and trimming are nonsense by the standard of grand tourers. How can it compete with Porsche Boxster, Cayman, BMW Z4, Audi TT or Mercedes SLK ?â€&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Besides, why would anyone want to compare the Europa to the Z4, boxter, TT or SLK in the first place? Buyers of those cars will never even consider the raw edged Lotus. The Europa is only built to a market of Exige and Elise owners that need a softter ride. People dont buy lotuses for comfort nor refinement. They buy them for the pedigree of a track ready car that they can drive on the street.</p>
<p>Lotus cars are special, un-compromised. Make a GT (in the general sense and it has lost its way). Lotuses adds lightness, not weight. </p>
<p>Want a GT? wait for the new Esprit.</p>
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		<title>By: azrai</title>
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		<dc:creator>azrai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cap Ayam Lotus. As long as it is making profit, I&#039;m onto it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cap Ayam Lotus. As long as it is making profit, I&#8217;m onto it.</p>
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		<title>By: e-nabilll</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/08/13/jinhua-neoplan-to-assemble-lotus-cars-in-china/#comment-105299</link>
		<dc:creator>e-nabilll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wats  with ppl who quote one damn source n treat it as the only opinion that counts....???....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wats  with ppl who quote one damn source n treat it as the only opinion that counts&#8230;.???&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: fastcx</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/08/13/jinhua-neoplan-to-assemble-lotus-cars-in-china/#comment-105290</link>
		<dc:creator>fastcx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Littlefire85, u still wan2 quote sources that is unreliable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Littlefire85, u still wan2 quote sources that is unreliable?</p>
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		<title>By: LittleFire85</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/08/13/jinhua-neoplan-to-assemble-lotus-cars-in-china/#comment-105288</link>
		<dc:creator>LittleFire85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good car? Hehe.. think again.. His price range almost the same wif porsche caymen, Bmw Z4..  The car price is cheap in others country.. 

&quot; A pointless new model. Despite of a new name and the claim of offering GT practicality and comfort, the Europa S is just another version of Elise and Exige, or more accurately, the defunct Opel Speedster. It goes slower and handles poorer than its sisters. In terms of practicality and comfort, it barely improves from its sisters by a whiskey. Still, you will have to climb difficultly into the cockpit. The noise insulation, the seats, the equipment and trimming are nonsense by the standard of grand tourers. How can it compete with Porsche Boxster, Cayman, BMW Z4, Audi TT or Mercedes SLK ?&quot;

http://www.autozine.org/Misc/Award/AutoZine/AutoZine_Awards_06.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good car? Hehe.. think again.. His price range almost the same wif porsche caymen, Bmw Z4..  The car price is cheap in others country.. </p>
<p>&#8221; A pointless new model. Despite of a new name and the claim of offering GT practicality and comfort, the Europa S is just another version of Elise and Exige, or more accurately, the defunct Opel Speedster. It goes slower and handles poorer than its sisters. In terms of practicality and comfort, it barely improves from its sisters by a whiskey. Still, you will have to climb difficultly into the cockpit. The noise insulation, the seats, the equipment and trimming are nonsense by the standard of grand tourers. How can it compete with Porsche Boxster, Cayman, BMW Z4, Audi TT or Mercedes SLK ?&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.autozine.org/Misc/Award/AutoZine/AutoZine_Awards_06.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.autozine.org/Misc/Award/AutoZine/AutoZine_Awards_06.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: farizal13</title>
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		<dc:creator>farizal13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no matter who assemble it...either UK or china as long as proton &amp; lotus can survive....actually Europa S is a good car to me....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no matter who assemble it&#8230;either UK or china as long as proton &amp; lotus can survive&#8230;.actually Europa S is a good car to me&#8230;.</p>
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