Comments on: Over 8,000 bookings for the Proton Persona http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:02:48 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: snailhill78 http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-150249 snailhill78 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:45:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-150249 to sham mpm, i support you.. to sham mpm,

i support you..

]]> By: sham_mpm http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-109303 sham_mpm Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:01:38 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-109303 Persona is a bargain. Indeed, it is a really nice car and can be true pride of the nation. To all, support Persona, our government has invested billion in proton and giving many malaysians career & business opportunities. Let the bashing be constructive critics rather than blind expression of hatred. Please don't be bias & sceptical anymore. Persona is a bargain. Indeed, it is a really nice car and can be true pride of the nation. To all, support Persona, our government has invested billion in proton and giving many malaysians career & business opportunities. Let the bashing be constructive critics rather than blind expression of hatred. Please don’t be bias & sceptical anymore.

]]> By: oscarsmh http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-108429 oscarsmh Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:32:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-108429 Hey guys, dun argue anymore la,there's no right or wrong of wat u all say.go for t car u guys liked.if u guys insist to argue,go ahead & import an S15 to prove your car nice & fast.tat's simple.i wonder y malaysian nowadays started grew liked org putih,argue here & there dunno for wat,u guys tink got money pay to u guys meh if u support any particular brand?anyway peace to all of u,cheers again!!! Hey guys,
dun argue anymore la,there’s no right or wrong of wat u all say.go for t car u guys liked.if u guys insist to argue,go ahead & import an S15 to prove your car nice & fast.tat’s simple.i wonder y malaysian nowadays started grew liked org putih,argue here & there dunno for wat,u guys tink got money pay to u guys meh if u support any particular brand?anyway peace to all of u,cheers again!!!

]]> By: nescartel http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-108096 nescartel Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:52:37 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-108096 11000++ bookings and counting! :-D 11000++ bookings and counting! :-D

]]> By: waimak http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-108013 waimak Wed, 29 Aug 2007 01:35:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-108013 Thanks kancildriver. Please refer some more. Thanks kancildriver. Please refer some more.

]]> By: proton GL http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107948 proton GL Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:38:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107948 http://static.flickr.com/29/51488718_258fc9a9f0_m.jpg not bad, http://static.flickr.com/29/51488718_258fc9a9f0_m.jpg

not bad,

]]> By: heavymetal http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107936 heavymetal Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:30:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107936 ha ????? ha ?????

]]> By: kancildriver http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107929 kancildriver Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:47:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107929 no offense ya? from dictionary.com... commendable means adjective 1. worthy of high praise; "applaudable efforts to save the environment"; "a commendable sense of purpose"; "laudable motives of improving housing conditions"; "a significant and praiseworthy increase in computer intelligence" [syn: applaudable] adverb 1. in an admirable manner; "the children's responses were admirably normal" [syn: admirably] no offense ya?

from dictionary.com…

commendable means

adjective
1. worthy of high praise; “applaudable efforts to save the environment”; “a commendable sense of purpose”; “laudable motives of improving housing conditions”; “a significant and praiseworthy increase in computer intelligence” [syn: applaudable]

adverb
1. in an admirable manner; “the children’s responses were admirably normal” [syn: admirably]

]]> By: waimak http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107899 waimak Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:02:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107899 I went to check the HL model a day after this car was launched. Huge improvement over Gen2 hatchback, I must say. Odd buttons/ possitions have been simplified. I noticed major issues in Gen2 Hatchback have been addressed too. Good move. However, also I noticed that some parts of the car is still commendable, quality wise. For e.g., the plastic used for cupholders looks cheap and the center console need not a genius to give a comment in terms of built quality. The cover for the front seat rail is roughly made too -maybe proton should study how nissan do it. The model which I checked has a noticable 'body-to-rear-bumper' gap - perhaps this could be rectified soon. I think Proton should stick to its good old Wira when it comes to door, where there is a rubber strip at the door to minimize the impact when closing. Both the gen2 and Persona seem to rely on the wheater strip on the car body and its mechanism alone to absorb the impact. In the long run, I dont think this is practical. I hope the Persona model comes with better quality rear light and bulb too. Move into the Klang valley and you will find a Gen2 with some water in the rear light (possibly due to crack) and at least one rear bulb not working. The audio buttons should also be built to last, unlike the current Gen2 Hatchback's. All in all, Persona is definitely a better model than the Gen2 hacth. However, proton should be more careful and be more particular in its choice of material because this minor things could spoil the sale. I went to check the HL model a day after this car was launched. Huge improvement over Gen2 hatchback, I must say. Odd buttons/ possitions have been simplified. I noticed major issues in Gen2 Hatchback have been addressed too. Good move.

However, also I noticed that some parts of the car is still commendable, quality wise. For e.g., the plastic used for cupholders looks cheap and the center console need not a genius to give a comment in terms of built quality. The cover for the front seat rail is roughly made too -maybe proton should study how nissan do it. The model which I checked has a noticable ‘body-to-rear-bumper’ gap – perhaps this could be rectified soon.

I think Proton should stick to its good old Wira when it comes to door, where there is a rubber strip at the door to minimize the impact when closing. Both the gen2 and Persona seem to rely on the wheater strip on the car body and its mechanism alone to absorb the impact. In the long run, I dont think this is practical.

I hope the Persona model comes with better quality rear light and bulb too. Move into the Klang valley and you will find a Gen2 with some water in the rear light (possibly due to crack) and at least one rear bulb not working. The audio buttons should also be built to last, unlike the current Gen2 Hatchback’s.

All in all, Persona is definitely a better model than the Gen2 hacth. However, proton should be more careful and be more particular in its choice of material because this minor things could spoil the sale.

]]> By: BanyakMasukWorkshop http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107805 BanyakMasukWorkshop Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:43:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107805 aesthari, wira production has already been stopped apparently, since july. aesthari, wira production has already been stopped apparently, since july.

]]> By: heavymetal http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107781 heavymetal Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:59:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107781 Thanks protonGL,memang sporty r3Neo,tapi 4door sedan lagi practical,hah setuju dgn bigfish Thanks protonGL,memang sporty r3Neo,tapi 4door sedan lagi practical,hah setuju dgn bigfish

]]> By: scorpicore http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107780 scorpicore Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:44:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107780 Well done. Looking at the result, 2 conclusions can be made. 1. 6,000 malaysians have had seen the car and decided to buy one 2. Malaysians still prefer sedan car than other small cars if they can afford Again, while most are hoping the quality is improved, still they go for the most affordable one. 8,000 was indeed excellent result when 16,000 malaysians just bought viva weeks before. The success of MYvi giving ample of space with low price will actually predict the outcome of persona. I believe Persona will have better result than Myvi if launched earlier as Myvi did. P1 now understood that right pricing is very important, hope this will be the trend for the future models with improved quality. However since we are going to celebrate 50 years of independance, i am hoping that local banks will offer car loan for our national car with a lower rate. Current rate of 3.88% is indeed high especially for those taking 9 years loan, when other car brand can get loan for a rate below 2%. Happy Merdeka Day to all malaysian, and to PROTON. Cheaper does not always mean poor quality but affordability. Well done. Looking at the result, 2 conclusions can be made.
1. 6,000 malaysians have had seen the car and decided to buy one
2. Malaysians still prefer sedan car than other small cars if they can afford

Again, while most are hoping the quality is improved, still they go for the most affordable one. 8,000 was indeed excellent result when 16,000 malaysians just bought viva weeks before.

The success of MYvi giving ample of space with low price will actually predict the outcome of persona. I believe Persona will have better result than Myvi if launched earlier as Myvi did.

P1 now understood that right pricing is very important, hope this will be the trend for the future models with improved quality.

However since we are going to celebrate 50 years of independance, i am hoping that local banks will offer car loan for our national car with a lower rate. Current rate of 3.88% is indeed high especially for those taking 9 years loan, when other car brand can get loan for a rate below 2%.

Happy Merdeka Day to all malaysian, and to PROTON. Cheaper does not always mean poor quality but affordability.

]]> By: BigFish http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107776 BigFish Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:12:37 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107776 heavymetal said, ".......boot besar…" Inilah kelebihan persona! heavymetal said,
“…….boot besar…”
Inilah kelebihan persona!

]]> By: proton GL http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107766 proton GL Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:08:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107766 oops http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2sWg7K85JU oops

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2sWg7K85JU

]]> By: heavymetal http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107762 heavymetal Mon, 27 Aug 2007 09:26:55 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107762 Kalau nak banding harga dgn Uk sampai bila pun tak habis lah,lagi 'off topic'..sementara tunggu kunci Persona,my Myvi pun dah kena pindahmilik to my auntie,so pinjam my bro's Satria Neo,wah..best jugak Neo ni,nasib baik 2 pintu,...tapi Persona interior lebih baik,..jadi kalau handling dan topspeed tak macam Neo pun ok,yg penting sedan 4pintu,duduk belakang kepala tak terhantuk,boot besar... Kalau nak banding harga dgn Uk sampai bila pun tak habis lah,lagi ‘off topic’..sementara tunggu kunci Persona,my Myvi pun dah kena pindahmilik to my auntie,so pinjam my bro’s Satria Neo,wah..best jugak Neo ni,nasib baik 2 pintu,…tapi Persona interior lebih baik,..jadi kalau handling dan topspeed tak macam Neo pun ok,yg penting sedan 4pintu,duduk belakang kepala tak terhantuk,boot besar…

]]> By: tec96248 http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107745 tec96248 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 08:04:33 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107745 heavymetal & kancildriver, to add on, a fresh graduate in UK can earn somewhere up to 1500pound 4 weeks. reasonly, my brother bought me a clark shoes which is still cheaper than in KL. In UK cars are cheaper until Malaysian RM dropped since 1997. remember the time rm3.80 to a pound? there's where all the cars are cheaper than Malaysia, The UK price was the highest tax in Europe then. I believe still a lot of people still dreaming. agree?? but we can't compare actually because used car in UK don't hv value. I should hv brought back BMW then. missed! hahahahaha. heavymetal & kancildriver,

to add on, a fresh graduate in UK can earn somewhere up to 1500pound 4 weeks. reasonly, my brother bought me a clark shoes which is still cheaper than in KL. In UK cars are cheaper until Malaysian RM dropped since 1997. remember the time rm3.80 to a pound? there’s where all the cars are cheaper than Malaysia, The UK price was the highest tax in Europe then. I believe still a lot of people still dreaming. agree?? but we can’t compare actually because used car in UK don’t hv value. I should hv brought back BMW then. missed! hahahahaha.

]]> By: tec96248 http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107744 tec96248 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 08:04:16 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107744 heavymetal & kancildriver, to add on, a fresh graduate in UK can earn somewhere up to 1500pound 4 weeks. reasonly, my brother bought me a clark shows which is still cheaper than in KL. In UK cars are cheaper until Malaysian RM dropped since 1997. remember the time rm3.80 to a pound? there's where all the cars are cheaper than Malaysia, The UK price was the highest tax in Europe then. I believe still a lot of people still dreaming. agree?? but we can't compare actually because used car in UK don't hv value. I should hv brought back BMW then. missed! hahahahaha. heavymetal & kancildriver,

to add on, a fresh graduate in UK can earn somewhere up to 1500pound 4 weeks. reasonly, my brother bought me a clark shows which is still cheaper than in KL. In UK cars are cheaper until Malaysian RM dropped since 1997. remember the time rm3.80 to a pound? there’s where all the cars are cheaper than Malaysia, The UK price was the highest tax in Europe then. I believe still a lot of people still dreaming. agree?? but we can’t compare actually because used car in UK don’t hv value. I should hv brought back BMW then. missed! hahahahaha.

]]> By: xstan http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107737 xstan Mon, 27 Aug 2007 07:09:13 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107737 Yes. Nizam ...Envy is already is teaser advert in some mags laready. Someone (Max i guess) posted the link to this Cool version of Persona. BTW...I do learn bits from BigFish comments. I tot he, Joe Ooi is Proton Bashers from day 1, but he do give rather construtive comments. Good. Yes. Nizam …Envy is already is teaser advert in some mags laready. Someone (Max i guess) posted the link to this Cool version of Persona.

BTW…I do learn bits from BigFish comments. I tot he, Joe Ooi is Proton Bashers from day 1, but he do give rather construtive comments. Good.

]]> By: ady http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107720 ady Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:47:37 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107720 Good Job P1 be a no 1 in malaysia and make malaysian proud to have PERSONA and also other proton cars Good Job P1
be a no 1 in malaysia and make malaysian proud to have PERSONA and also other proton cars

]]> By: hameed koyakuti http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107711 hameed koyakuti Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:46:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107711 I heard fm a fren in Proton, order had reach 10k over the weekend. Maybe to catch festival season n to show off during balik kampung......... Kudos........ I heard fm a fren in Proton, order had reach 10k over the weekend. Maybe to catch festival season n to show off during balik kampung………

Kudos……..

]]> By: aesthari http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107705 aesthari Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:31:14 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107705 Kudos to Proton. I believe, at least now, that Proton IS changing. Time for them to let the Wira retire gracefully, perhaps? Kudos to Proton. I believe, at least now, that Proton IS changing. Time for them to let the Wira retire gracefully, perhaps?

]]> By: sugar_glider http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107704 sugar_glider Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:29:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107704 I already book Persona last week and plan to sell my current car. That ganna be my 1st proton car in my life. Hahaha... Very good price compare to Latio 1.6. I already book Persona last week and plan to sell my current car. That ganna be my 1st proton car in my life. Hahaha… Very good price compare to Latio 1.6.

]]> By: sugar_glider http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107703 sugar_glider Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:22:45 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107703 I love persona I love persona

]]> By: sugar_glider http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107702 sugar_glider Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:19:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107702 I read paultan every week days and I always ignore BigFish/Jeo Ooi comment. His comment is very long but useless and mostly out of topic. Persona is a good car by proton. I start to love protons car and plan to sell my current car and book my 1st proton car now. Hahaha.... I read paultan every week days and I always ignore BigFish/Jeo Ooi comment. His comment is very long but useless and mostly out of topic. Persona is a good car by proton. I start to love protons car and plan to sell my current car and book my 1st proton car now. Hahaha….

]]> By: Infinitt http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107700 Infinitt Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:04:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107700 The booking and order will be increased till end of this year due to many festivals. Back to hometown and saw many carriers deliver persona yesterday. All the best to proton...persona yang memang mempersonakan. The booking and order will be increased till end of this year due to many festivals. Back to hometown and saw many carriers deliver persona yesterday. All the best to proton…persona yang memang mempersonakan.

]]> By: wong http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107668 wong Sun, 26 Aug 2007 20:09:39 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107668 Hope those who have booked the car don't have to wait too long...Thinking of changing my company's old beat up Iswara, the Persona will be just nice Hope those who have booked the car don’t have to wait too long…Thinking of changing my company’s old beat up Iswara, the Persona will be just nice

]]> By: mzfnd http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107656 mzfnd Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:32:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107656 Careful Littlefire. That kind of statement could lead this thread wayyy off topic. We are peaceful people aren't we? Now, let's get back to Persona. Careful Littlefire. That kind of statement could lead this thread wayyy off topic.
We are peaceful people aren’t we? Now, let’s get back to Persona.

]]> By: LittleFire85 http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107651 LittleFire85 Sun, 26 Aug 2007 16:41:38 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107651 Now after so much complain improve a bit, well not bad.. But still, this is just the beginning... Wira, Saga, Iswara, waja, gen.2 last time also sell hot, but after a while a lot of complain come by... So wait and see.. Dont conclude so fast, This car just come at the right time.. but if the car slow to deliver, new Vios going come out rumored only RM70K between.. i gonna say some persona customer going to say bye bye... Heard rumor Vios will be assemble in Perodua factory to sell cheaper in Malaysia market... Hold hands! (Maybe that why ppl think saw myvi sedan, actually is vios!) Persona is good, but let down by its engine. Others are not surprise element, just gen.2 added boot with few interior change.. for me the heart of the car is more important.. if proton come with CPS+VIM and same pricing as current, i bet that it will be 18k booking, not 8k only.. Faster come out la! I want CPS+CIM & Supercharge CAMPRO! Show it to me! Just bring it! Now after so much complain improve a bit, well not bad.. But still, this is just the beginning… Wira, Saga, Iswara, waja, gen.2 last time also sell hot, but after a while a lot of complain come by… So wait and see.. Dont conclude so fast, This car just come at the right time.. but if the car slow to deliver, new Vios going come out rumored only RM70K between.. i gonna say some persona customer going to say bye bye… Heard rumor Vios will be assemble in Perodua factory to sell cheaper in Malaysia market… Hold hands! (Maybe that why ppl think saw myvi sedan, actually is vios!) Persona is good, but let down by its engine. Others are not surprise element, just gen.2 added boot with few interior change.. for me the heart of the car is more important.. if proton come with CPS+VIM and same pricing as current, i bet that it will be 18k booking, not 8k only.. Faster come out la! I want CPS+CIM & Supercharge CAMPRO! Show it to me! Just bring it!

]]> By: mzfnd http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107644 mzfnd Sun, 26 Aug 2007 15:53:53 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107644 172 comments and counting... Come on everyone, 30 more and you got yourself a thesis on Proton. The funny thing is, I don't think going through the whole thread can ever help anyone make up their mind on buying the Persona or not. 172 comments and counting…
Come on everyone, 30 more and you got yourself a thesis on Proton.

The funny thing is, I don’t think going through the whole thread can ever help anyone make up their mind on buying the Persona or not.

]]> By: BigFish http://paultan.org/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107639 BigFish Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:58:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/23/over-8000-bookings-for-the-proton-persona/#comment-107639 heavymetal & kancildriver, the key word is still affordability in relation to at what price and level of Purchasing Power Parity (PPP)! But fair price under open market always affordable since it is follow the normal supply-demand curve. heavymetal & kancildriver, the key word is still affordability in relation to at what price and level of Purchasing Power Parity (PPP)! But fair price under open market always affordable since it is follow the normal supply-demand curve.

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