Comments on: 2007 Honda City i-DSI Facelift Launched http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:03:39 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: nHj-2402 http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-118021 nHj-2402 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:48:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-118021 when the new city will launching? i've saw the new vios ..hmm waiting for this new city and wil make the comparison still confiusing to buy vios or city when the new city will launching?
i’ve saw the new vios ..hmm waiting for this new city and wil make the comparison
still confiusing to buy vios or city

]]> By: nHj-2402 http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-118020 nHj-2402 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:45:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-118020 thus dis new city was launching now? when ? the new vios already launch new design. thus dis new city was launching now? when ?
the new vios already launch new design.

]]> By: syanas http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-108463 syanas Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:00:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-108463 haha..my fren said, that's ikan puyu...and i think the coming vios like dugong also..haha...i prefer the current vios other than city haha..my fren said, that’s ikan puyu…and i think the coming vios like dugong also..haha…i prefer the current vios other than city

]]> By: BigFish http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-108370 BigFish Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:19:55 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-108370 Toyota Belta, good car http://paultan.org/archives/2005/11/30/2006-toyota-belta/ Toyota Belta, good car

http://paultan.org/archives/2005/11/30/2006-toyota-belta/

]]> By: Vegatron http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-108246 Vegatron Thu, 30 Aug 2007 02:01:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-108246 sorry but Belta is ugly to me. hahah.... the shape may suit camry but shrinking it down to Vios size ... it most definitely looks weird dugong looking. I call it the waterdog look, doggy looking dugong.... but nevermind the release of the Beldog Vios I mean Belta Vios... it's going to make city look better in comparison. hehe sorry but Belta is ugly to me. hahah…. the shape may suit camry but shrinking it down to Vios size … it most definitely looks weird dugong looking. I call it the waterdog look, doggy looking dugong…. but nevermind the release of the Beldog Vios I mean Belta Vios… it’s going to make city look better in comparison. hehe

]]> By: KL-ATR http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-108043 KL-ATR Wed, 29 Aug 2007 05:00:48 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-108043 Well, a facelift is a facelift. It's always a grill change, bumper change, add body kit, etc. It's suppose to freshen up the car before it's phased out. What do you expect from a facelift? At most, it's done twice and they tell you it's a facelift. Unlike another manufacturer that creates a facelift almost every year but dare to call it a New Car instead. There's always 2 sides to a coin. Some thinks the City is ugly and likewise, some thinks the Vios looks weird. A whole lot more for the City of course but when a spacious interior is required, the exterior usually will be compromised. Want to look good? Buy a sports car. Want maximum space? Buy a MPV. The thing is, do you buy a nice looking car for others to see? Or do you buy a car that is spacious and comfortable so you and your family enjoy riding in it? You can puke all you want and say that it hurts your eye but my wife only spends RM50 of V-Power each week on the car and the interior is more spacious than the new Civic! Try transporting a 3 feet tall plant in any other car. The City can fit TWO potted plants after lifting the Ultra Seat. The City have so many pluses over other cars. As they say, Don't Judge a Book by its Cover. Of course, there are those who always prefer beauty over substance. My wife won't change the City for a Civic, unless they increase the interior space and put in the Ultra Seat. Well, a facelift is a facelift. It’s always a grill change, bumper change, add body kit, etc. It’s suppose to freshen up the car before it’s phased out. What do you expect from a facelift? At most, it’s done twice and they tell you it’s a facelift. Unlike another manufacturer that creates a facelift almost every year but dare to call it a New Car instead.

There’s always 2 sides to a coin. Some thinks the City is ugly and likewise, some thinks the Vios looks weird. A whole lot more for the City of course but when a spacious interior is required, the exterior usually will be compromised. Want to look good? Buy a sports car. Want maximum space? Buy a MPV. The thing is, do you buy a nice looking car for others to see? Or do you buy a car that is spacious and comfortable so you and your family enjoy riding in it?

You can puke all you want and say that it hurts your eye but my wife only spends RM50 of V-Power each week on the car and the interior is more spacious than the new Civic! Try transporting a 3 feet tall plant in any other car. The City can fit TWO potted plants after lifting the Ultra Seat.

The City have so many pluses over other cars. As they say, Don’t Judge a Book by its Cover. Of course, there are those who always prefer beauty over substance. My wife won’t change the City for a Civic, unless they increase the interior space and put in the Ultra Seat.

]]> By: xstan http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-108041 xstan Wed, 29 Aug 2007 04:42:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-108041 helooooo...Kody. The new enhanced unit is to counter the upcoming New Vios (Belta) unit. Anyway, IDSI unit is a dissapointment. Good for VTEC. helooooo…Kody. The new enhanced unit is to counter the upcoming New Vios (Belta) unit. Anyway, IDSI unit is a dissapointment. Good for VTEC.

]]> By: kody http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-108033 kody Wed, 29 Aug 2007 04:05:53 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-108033 ehmmm... at least Honda is fast at fast facelift their model to capture customer (business mind oriented), consider not bad for city to facelift again to fight persona...i guest..haha... ehmmm…
at least Honda is fast at fast facelift their model to capture customer (business mind oriented), consider not bad for city to facelift again to fight persona…i guest..haha…

]]> By: aliBaPa http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107987 aliBaPa Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:32:19 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107987 <I>what if glass broken?</I> what if glass broken?

]]> By: aliBaPa http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107986 aliBaPa Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:30:38 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107986 <I>glass antenna means the antenna is printed onto the rear windscreen, so there is no need for something sticking out of the car body.</I> what if accident windscreen broken? glass antenna means the antenna is printed onto the rear windscreen, so there is no need for something sticking out of the car body.

what if accident windscreen broken?

]]> By: maibatsu_thunder http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107957 maibatsu_thunder Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:35:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107957 Its not a case of no improvement, its a case of downgrading specs. Steermatic = money. Its not a case of no improvement, its a case of downgrading specs. Steermatic = money.

]]> By: mits27 http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107949 mits27 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:45:43 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107949 I think they want to push city vtec, that's why we see most improvement on city vetc compare to city idsi like no improvement... Btw, the new yaris sedan is not bad too, has sat inside the car, the space is not bad, it is taller than current vios, and it has rear flat floor... I think they want to push city vtec, that’s why we see most improvement on city vetc compare to city idsi like no improvement…
Btw, the new yaris sedan is not bad too, has sat inside the car, the space is not bad, it is taller than current vios, and it has rear flat floor…

]]> By: J http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107945 J Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:06:14 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107945 For fuel saving OK la. For fuel saving OK la.

]]> By: maibatsu_thunder http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107941 maibatsu_thunder Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:50:37 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107941 Why remove Steermatic from i-DSI? Price not down though. Why remove Steermatic from i-DSI? Price not down though.

]]> By: transformer http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107918 transformer Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:52:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107918 since so many people here talking about new Vios(to be), Belta. Belta are derived from Vios, same platform our current ones with minor modifications. Initially Belta are JDM and targeted specifically to Female drivers. So i believe ones can't expect too much about its chassis and handling. Interior space are improved! Anyway wait till it launch soon... Happy motoring! since so many people here talking about new Vios(to be), Belta.

Belta are derived from Vios, same platform our current ones with minor modifications. Initially Belta are JDM and targeted specifically to Female drivers. So i believe ones can’t expect too much about its chassis and handling. Interior space are improved!

Anyway wait till it launch soon… Happy motoring!

]]> By: passingby http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107911 passingby Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:47:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107911 altis_fan said, "Save petrol? How much per Km can be saved? How about the price. Comparing to Proton Persona, this one costs about RM25K more. How many years waiting from petrol saving that can recover RM25K" ---------------------------------------------------------------- Your rational sound rite but it wrong , u hv to look into it depreciation rate as well. How much you will lose in 5 years with a Honda as compare to a similar category says Proton Wira or Persona ? altis_fan said,

“Save petrol? How much per Km can be saved? How about the price. Comparing to Proton Persona, this one costs about RM25K more. How many years waiting from petrol saving that can recover RM25K”
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Your rational sound rite but it wrong , u hv to look into it depreciation rate as well.
How much you will lose in 5 years with a Honda as compare to a similar category says Proton Wira or Persona ?

]]> By: rizman http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107910 rizman Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:46:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107910 wow! it looks great, even better than the recent new city. wow! it looks great, even better than the recent new city.

]]> By: king http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107895 king Tue, 28 Aug 2007 07:31:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107895 ugly ...but still looks better than upcoming belta. ugly …but still looks better than upcoming belta.

]]> By: xstan http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107879 xstan Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:43:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107879 Yup u bet...I'm sure is expecting the New Vios. It got positive review in foreign mags. I worry is space...I know it has improvised the room over the old unit, but how roomy?? By few mm is insignificant. BTW, the price expect to start at close RM69K+ so it still below RM70K for Manual spec. Just felt cheated on the City IDSI 's pricing even after omited several plus features such as steermatic buttons etc. Yup u bet…I’m sure is expecting the New Vios. It got positive review in foreign mags. I worry is space…I know it has improvised the room over the old unit, but how roomy?? By few mm is insignificant. BTW, the price expect to start at close RM69K+ so it still below RM70K for Manual spec.

Just felt cheated on the City IDSI ’s pricing even after omited several plus features such as steermatic buttons etc.

]]> By: BigFish http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107878 BigFish Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:30:24 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107878 For those want to choose Honda City because of dislike of existing Vios, please consider the following: - 1. The expected upcoming Belta (Vios replacement) indicative price is start from RM 60K++. So, price wise it is good bargain under NAP-compliance environment. 2. Vios is Toyota's "local best" regional budget sub-compact entry level passenger car. The Belta, unlike Vios but is like Persona, "butt job" by Toyota to extend Yaris butt-less to become sexy bab with sexy buttock. Belta is not "local best" by design Toyota for certain regional market, but is "world best" just like Camry or Altis for world market. So, expected better quality and specs for Belta! Look like this City is not an attractive offer, but Belta aka "mini Camry" will give an edge over City. "Women chemistry characteristic are explode for no apparent reasons, react sensitively to certain precious metal" - BigFish For those want to choose Honda City because of dislike of existing Vios, please consider the following: -

1. The expected upcoming Belta (Vios replacement) indicative price is start from RM 60K++. So, price wise it is good bargain under NAP-compliance environment.

2. Vios is Toyota’s “local best” regional budget sub-compact entry level passenger car. The Belta, unlike Vios but is like Persona, “butt job” by Toyota to extend Yaris butt-less to become sexy bab with sexy buttock. Belta is not “local best” by design Toyota for certain regional market, but is “world best” just like Camry or Altis for world market. So, expected better quality and specs for Belta!

Look like this City is not an attractive offer, but Belta aka “mini Camry” will give an edge over City.

“Women chemistry characteristic are explode for no apparent reasons, react sensitively to certain precious metal” – BigFish

]]> By: kevyeoh http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107876 kevyeoh Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:22:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107876 yeah... RM30k is a big difference...even though Honda City's FC is definitely much better than Persona... :) back to the original topic of this facelift...i don't see anything special about this new facelift...just minor changes here and there...nothing to shout about...but heard that they remove the steermatic for the idsl? what the heck...should be adding stuff...but now honda removing? downgrade? but price mana ada downgrade? yeah… RM30k is a big difference…even though Honda City’s FC is definitely much better than Persona… :)

back to the original topic of this facelift…i don’t see anything special about this new facelift…just minor changes here and there…nothing to shout about…but heard that they remove the steermatic for the idsl? what the heck…should be adding stuff…but now honda removing? downgrade?
but price mana ada downgrade?

]]> By: vip http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107872 vip Tue, 28 Aug 2007 04:59:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107872 man that old stuff you guys getting! man that old stuff you guys getting!

]]> By: KelvC http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107870 KelvC Tue, 28 Aug 2007 04:27:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107870 khimfoh, well said. I think dollar for dollar, paun for paun, the City is a better bet. I have driven the Vios for couple months and my conclusion is the car is too light and it tend to sway very easily and floats on the ground when going above 100kph, therefore with this experience, i would prefer not do drive this car. If I am looking for a family car today, which means space and active/passive safety are of main concern here, I would seriously look into City. Knowing myself better, i would consider the Vtec version for the dark interior color (due to having a toddler) plus the additional rear disc brakes option which the iDSI doesn't have. The water resistant fabric with Ultraseat on Vtec is definately a plus point for a family fella like me...no need elaboration there. I have always like the honey comb grille however would not be willing to pay the additional 500bucks for the Modulo honeycomb grille. Now, if I have another 1-1half years to wait for another car, i would think Persona could be another option for me...why? I could use the 30grand (+bank interest) for my kid's education or even to pare down the housing loan, don't need a rocket scientist to figured that out. The Persona H-Line pretty much the same essential features (minus CPS+VIM against VTEC); i.e. EBD, ABS, dual airbags, rear disc brakes, space...minus the Honda badge. At the end of the day, we should choose something fits our objective. Anything else is just pure emotions. "Men rise and fall because of emotions" ~ KelvC 2007 khimfoh, well said. I think dollar for dollar, paun for paun, the City is a better bet. I have driven the Vios for couple months and my conclusion is the car is too light and it tend to sway very easily and floats on the ground when going above 100kph, therefore with this experience, i would prefer not do drive this car.

If I am looking for a family car today, which means space and active/passive safety are of main concern here, I would seriously look into City. Knowing myself better, i would consider the Vtec version for the dark interior color (due to having a toddler) plus the additional rear disc brakes option which the iDSI doesn’t have. The water resistant fabric with Ultraseat on Vtec is definately a plus point for a family fella like me…no need elaboration there. I have always like the honey comb grille however would not be willing to pay the additional 500bucks for the Modulo honeycomb grille.

Now, if I have another 1-1half years to wait for another car, i would think Persona could be another option for me…why? I could use the 30grand (+bank interest) for my kid’s education or even to pare down the housing loan, don’t need a rocket scientist to figured that out. The Persona H-Line pretty much the same essential features (minus CPS+VIM against VTEC); i.e. EBD, ABS, dual airbags, rear disc brakes, space…minus the Honda badge.

At the end of the day, we should choose something fits our objective. Anything else is just pure emotions.

“Men rise and fall because of emotions” ~ KelvC 2007

]]> By: ahpek http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107868 ahpek Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:42:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107868 macam ikan lumba2 jea hehehehhe macam ikan lumba2 jea hehehehhe

]]> By: khimfoh http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107867 khimfoh Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:37:55 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107867 Hmmm.....well I for one don't care much about the exterior design of the car because majority of the time one will be sitting in the car driving it. Which is why for me interior space and an ergonomic dashboard design is of utmost importance to me. At RM85600 for the Vtec version, I'd say it's value for money compared to its direct competitor the Toyota Vios 1.5G. Hmmm…..well I for one don’t care much about the exterior design of the car because majority of the time one will be sitting in the car driving it. Which is why for me interior space and an ergonomic dashboard design is of utmost importance to me.

At RM85600 for the Vtec version, I’d say it’s value for money compared to its direct competitor the Toyota Vios 1.5G.

]]> By: jason bourne http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107865 jason bourne Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:31:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107865 http://fifthgear.five.tv/jsp/5gmain.jsp?lnk=201_1&model=32&description=Honda%20Civic http://fifthgear.five.tv/jsp/5gmain.jsp?lnk=201_1&model=32&description=Honda%20Civic

]]> By: jason bourne http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107864 jason bourne Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:31:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107864 i hope they bring this over here , european civic http://fifthgear.five.tv/jsp/5gmain.jsp?lnk=201_1&model=32&description=Honda%20Civic i hope they bring this over here , european civic http://fifthgear.five.tv/jsp/5gmain.jsp?lnk=201_1&model=32&description=Honda%20Civic

]]> By: hazri99 http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107863 hazri99 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:58:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107863 what boring day.. i think already launch 2 month ago..paul highligh the new kia spectra and optima.. that new.. no highlight in yours blog only spyshot on highway ..lol... what boring day.. i think already launch 2 month ago..paul highligh the new kia spectra and optima.. that new.. no highlight in yours blog only spyshot on highway ..lol…

]]> By: civ96110 http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107861 civ96110 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:28:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107861 STILL UGLY!!!!! Ugh..... STILL UGLY!!!!! Ugh…..

]]> By: familyman http://paultan.org/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107859 familyman Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:15:48 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/08/27/2007-honda-city-i-dsi-facelift-launched-in-malaysia/#comment-107859 is the build in head unit new? is the build in head unit new?

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