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	<title>Comments on: Kia eco_cee&#8217;d Concept at Frankfurt 2007</title>
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	<description>Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry</description>
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		<title>By: transformer</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/09/11/kia-eco_ceed-concept-at-frankfurt-2007/#comment-110323</link>
		<dc:creator>transformer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WoW!   love those propeller(blade) type wheels..... reminds me of V70 (the earlier model)..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WoW!   love those propeller(blade) type wheels&#8230;.. reminds me of V70 (the earlier model)..</p>
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		<title>By: zack_keyme988</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/09/11/kia-eco_ceed-concept-at-frankfurt-2007/#comment-110311</link>
		<dc:creator>zack_keyme988</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK LA... WAIT UNTILL IT ON THE ROAD..TEST DRIVE IT..N JUDGE IT..BUT 4 NOW



VERDICT: *******/10*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK LA&#8230; WAIT UNTILL IT ON THE ROAD..TEST DRIVE IT..N JUDGE IT..BUT 4 NOW</p>
<p>VERDICT: *******/10*</p>
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		<title>By: kei9</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/09/11/kia-eco_ceed-concept-at-frankfurt-2007/#comment-110297</link>
		<dc:creator>kei9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: aesthari</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/09/11/kia-eco_ceed-concept-at-frankfurt-2007/#comment-110260</link>
		<dc:creator>aesthari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 02:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kia is really doing it&#039;s homework :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kia is really doing it&#8217;s homework <img src='http://s2.paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: wildthingz</title>
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		<dc:creator>wildthingz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now they said salt water can replace current fuel that what we call hybrid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now they said salt water can replace current fuel that what we call hybrid</p>
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		<title>By: 4G63T DSM</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/09/11/kia-eco_ceed-concept-at-frankfurt-2007/#comment-110215</link>
		<dc:creator>4G63T DSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Stop and go&quot; is standard fair on all Hybrid cars. So this is a tested tech and nothing new.

The &quot;not full hybrids&quot; (Full hybrids would be like the Prius that can run on battery alone) like the Honda IMA uses this for on engine deactivation when the car is at the stop and uses the IMA motor to start the car once a gear is selected. 

I expected a little more than the 3.9L per 100km after all that extra work is done. I remember that VW&#039;s 1.9TDi Golf was running somethign like 4.6L/100km dispite being 300cc larger and one generation earlier.

Diesels are very economical. Expect to see about 20-30% better fuel consumption than the equivalent sized petrol engine. This is because of the energy content of diesel is higher per gram than petrol, and the higher efficiency of the engine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Stop and go&#8221; is standard fair on all Hybrid cars. So this is a tested tech and nothing new.</p>
<p>The &#8220;not full hybrids&#8221; (Full hybrids would be like the Prius that can run on battery alone) like the Honda IMA uses this for on engine deactivation when the car is at the stop and uses the IMA motor to start the car once a gear is selected. </p>
<p>I expected a little more than the 3.9L per 100km after all that extra work is done. I remember that VW&#8217;s 1.9TDi Golf was running somethign like 4.6L/100km dispite being 300cc larger and one generation earlier.</p>
<p>Diesels are very economical. Expect to see about 20-30% better fuel consumption than the equivalent sized petrol engine. This is because of the energy content of diesel is higher per gram than petrol, and the higher efficiency of the engine.</p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
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		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oo very nice car and cheap too for a diesel car</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oo very nice car and cheap too for a diesel car</p>
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		<title>By: Vengeance</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/09/11/kia-eco_ceed-concept-at-frankfurt-2007/#comment-110170</link>
		<dc:creator>Vengeance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;fuel consumption is now just 3.9 liters for every 100km travelled&quot;

Wow, thats nice, now only i realized modern diesel is so economic! Sadly in Malaysia we only have our current dirty diesel, put it in this car&#039;s engine, the diesel will kill it!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;fuel consumption is now just 3.9 liters for every 100km travelled&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow, thats nice, now only i realized modern diesel is so economic! Sadly in Malaysia we only have our current dirty diesel, put it in this car&#8217;s engine, the diesel will kill it!!</p>
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		<title>By: armandd</title>
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		<dc:creator>armandd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we&#039;ll never see cars like these here because of high sulphur diesel, haiihhh... =(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we&#8217;ll never see cars like these here because of high sulphur diesel, haiihhh&#8230; =(</p>
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		<title>By: MaverickNeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaverickNeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very clean undercarriage. I like the overall shape too..but will look better in black...lolz I&#039;d like to see what the Stop &amp; Go system is all about. sounds interesting, but seems a little iffy in practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very clean undercarriage. I like the overall shape too..but will look better in black&#8230;lolz I&#8217;d like to see what the Stop &amp; Go system is all about. sounds interesting, but seems a little iffy in practice.</p>
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		<title>By: szw</title>
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		<dc:creator>szw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lovely colour on a car</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lovely colour on a car</p>
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