Comments on: Facelifted Mitsubishi Grandis in Malaysia http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sat, 26 May 2012 14:49:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: azman http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-396878 azman Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:31:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-396878 No regrets buying one....spacious and practical MPV....wholesome for the family No regrets buying one….spacious and practical MPV….wholesome for the family

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]]> By: arif http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-324770 arif Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:43:08 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-324770 nice car.i like it.. nice car.i like it..

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]]> By: weewitt http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-172784 weewitt Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:11:55 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-172784 proton mpv will be based on grandis?..not bad! proton mpv will be based on grandis?..not bad!

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]]> By: funbox http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110733 funbox Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:20:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110733 Mazda5 is still the best among the MPVs, it has clean and stylish body. Mazda5 is still the best among the MPVs, it has clean and stylish body.

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]]> By: J http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110709 J Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:08:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110709 Just know that EON has 40% share in Mitsubishi Motor Msia company. Guess must be some "Special Treatment" on taxes for the cars that they import :) Just know that EON has 40% share in Mitsubishi Motor Msia company. Guess must be some “Special Treatment” on taxes for the cars that they import :)

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]]> By: 4G63T DSM http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110682 4G63T DSM Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:10:48 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110682 If this current pricing trend continues, maybe we'll see the EVO X for under 200k... Mitsu GDI engines have some issues with NOx thus, not have a more widely marketed (for example not in North America). Perhaps the GDI cost much for to produce for instance due to lower quantities and complexity. Oddly enough, In North America, we have the normal 4G69 SOHC MIVEC. The 4G69 MIVEC is actually a fairly new engine debuting sometime in 2004 with the launch of the Sportback Lancer. The 4G64 engine family dates back quite a bit further, more like the 80, and was one of the original Sirius design If this current pricing trend continues, maybe we’ll see the EVO X for under 200k…

Mitsu GDI engines have some issues with NOx thus, not have a more widely marketed (for example not in North America). Perhaps the GDI cost much for to produce for instance due to lower quantities and complexity.

Oddly enough, In North America, we have the normal 4G69 SOHC MIVEC.
The 4G69 MIVEC is actually a fairly new engine debuting sometime in 2004 with the launch of the Sportback Lancer.

The 4G64 engine family dates back quite a bit further, more like the 80, and was one of the original Sirius design

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]]> By: transformer http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110621 transformer Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:16:24 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110621 this facelift sucks! (i mean the faschia) still prefer its earlier looks... remind me of a Skull! SO MEAN LOOKS! And its rear taillight comes in full LED! HOT! mind you! this Grandis are a full size 7-seaters MPV which are in the same league with Oddesy and Estima/Previa. Wish and Stream are consider smaller 5+2seaters , different league! Lower that it! But most people will compare it with Wish/Stream as its priced in the same region with this new facelift! Anyway its at least give its competitor a big bang for their bucks! this facelift sucks! (i mean the faschia)
still prefer its earlier looks… remind me of a Skull! SO MEAN LOOKS!
And its rear taillight comes in full LED! HOT!

mind you! this Grandis are a full size 7-seaters MPV which are in the same league with Oddesy and Estima/Previa. Wish and Stream are consider smaller 5+2seaters , different league! Lower that it!

But most people will compare it with Wish/Stream as its priced in the same region with this new facelift!

Anyway its at least give its competitor a big bang for their bucks!

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]]> By: e-by http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110598 e-by Thu, 13 Sep 2007 03:51:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110598 90's?? I doubt it. The engine is the same with the current Grandis. I've tested the current MPV and I found the torque and top speed is adequate. T For the price RM158K, this is a real bargain if you compare with Wish/Stream. This is a huge MPV and comparable with Oddesey or Estima in term of size but not in luxury aspect. Maybe MMM did not bring in the latest version due to the price factor. Well, if they bring the latest one, the price maybe at around RM200K and then no one will buy. 90′s?? I doubt it. The engine is the same with the current Grandis. I’ve tested the current MPV and I found the torque and top speed is adequate. T

For the price RM158K, this is a real bargain if you compare with Wish/Stream. This is a huge MPV and comparable with Oddesey or Estima in term of size but not in luxury aspect.

Maybe MMM did not bring in the latest version due to the price factor. Well, if they bring the latest one, the price maybe at around RM200K and then no one will buy.

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]]> By: LittleFire85 http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110586 LittleFire85 Thu, 13 Sep 2007 03:18:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110586 http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/mitsubishi/chariot_grandis/2002_5/16452/ This is the previous grandis model in JDM, they already using GDI-V Which is a direct injection engine with CVVT. see his hp and torque compare to this Mivec SOHC. "Displacement, cc : 2350 Engine model: 4G64 (GDI-V) Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm: 165 ps (121.36 kw) / 5700 rpm Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm: 23.5 kg*m (230.46 N*m) / 3500 rpm Engine type: Serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve Engine information: GDI-V continual variable valve timing mechanism attaching Fuel system: Direct injection" From SOHC MIVEC "The Mitsubishi Grandis is powered by the 4G69, a 2.4 liter MIVEC engine putting out 165 PS at 6,000rpm and a maximum torque of 217Nm at 4,000rpm. This is mated to an INVECS-II 4-speed automatic transmission." PS/HP is the same but the torque already win 13Nm and faster get 3500rpm compare to 4000rpm in the SOHC! So? Now u know which engine better? that SOHC MIVEC is an very old engine used in the 90'... http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/mitsubishi/chariot_grandis/2002_5/16452/

This is the previous grandis model in JDM, they already using GDI-V Which is a direct injection engine with CVVT. see his hp and torque compare to this Mivec SOHC.

“Displacement, cc : 2350
Engine model: 4G64 (GDI-V)
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm: 165 ps (121.36 kw) / 5700 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm: 23.5 kg*m (230.46 N*m) / 3500 rpm
Engine type: Serial 4 cylinder DOHC16 valve
Engine information: GDI-V continual variable valve timing mechanism attaching
Fuel system: Direct injection”

From SOHC MIVEC “The Mitsubishi Grandis is powered by the 4G69, a 2.4 liter MIVEC engine putting out 165 PS at 6,000rpm and a maximum torque of 217Nm at 4,000rpm. This is mated to an INVECS-II 4-speed automatic transmission.”

PS/HP is the same but the torque already win 13Nm and faster get 3500rpm compare to 4000rpm in the SOHC! So? Now u know which engine better? that SOHC MIVEC is an very old engine used in the 90′…

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]]> By: KL-ATR http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110558 KL-ATR Thu, 13 Sep 2007 02:42:53 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110558 Ahh... finally they price this to sell. And with the new warranty and maintenance terms, I hope to see more Grandis on the road. They sold like hotcakes in Singapore and I hope they will succeed here too. Similar size with an Estima but way cheaper. Yes, there is hope for a cheaper Evo X after all!!! :D Ahh… finally they price this to sell. And with the new warranty and maintenance terms, I hope to see more Grandis on the road. They sold like hotcakes in Singapore and I hope they will succeed here too. Similar size with an Estima but way cheaper. Yes, there is hope for a cheaper Evo X after all!!! :D

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]]> By: LittleFire85 http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110553 LittleFire85 Thu, 13 Sep 2007 02:38:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110553 The new GDI engine from mitsu is a direct injection engine... It have more torque then the SOHC Mivec, but hp almost the same.. For more better FC, GDI is still the best way to go... Just my 2 cent.. The new GDI engine from mitsu is a direct injection engine… It have more torque then the SOHC Mivec, but hp almost the same.. For more better FC, GDI is still the best way to go… Just my 2 cent..

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]]> By: wildthingz http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110515 wildthingz Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:59:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110515 wah nice one like to have one as family car wah nice one like to have one as family car

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]]> By: 4G63T DSM http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110502 4G63T DSM Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:32:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110502 50k drop in price? How does mitsu (more accutately its distributor) do it? Then why not Honda or Toyota? The bigger Grandis is only a few k more than the Wish/Stream and a whopping 80K cheaper than a similar sized Odysee (CBU). Dont under estimate SOHC motors, especially Mitsu SOHC motors. They work just fine in a vehicle like this. Even with the 2.4, this is still a relatively small engine for the vehicle size and will need all the low end torque it can get. 50k drop in price?

How does mitsu (more accutately its distributor) do it? Then why not Honda or Toyota?

The bigger Grandis is only a few k more than the Wish/Stream and a whopping 80K cheaper than a similar sized Odysee (CBU).

Dont under estimate SOHC motors, especially Mitsu SOHC motors. They work just fine in a vehicle like this. Even with the 2.4, this is still a relatively small engine for the vehicle size and will need all the low end torque it can get.

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]]> By: arcana http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110496 arcana Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:19:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110496 good move...but it could be bad as well......their customers will probably go..omg, i lost 50k just by buying this car earlier.....zzzz new buyers will be happy on the other hand.....50k drop and a 2.4 larger mpv for that kind of money and equipment levels. looks like mitsu is serious on competition, keep it up. good move…but it could be bad as well……their customers will probably go..omg, i lost 50k just by buying this car earlier…..zzzz
new buyers will be happy on the other hand…..50k drop and a 2.4 larger mpv for that kind of money and equipment levels.
looks like mitsu is serious on competition, keep it up.

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]]> By: azrai http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110483 azrai Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:41:45 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110483 A big drop in price? I wonder those who are buying Grandis previously just manage to pay the discount amount of 50k on their loan. :) Looks it gonna compete head to head with Wish and Stream on this price bracket. Good move. We want more FTAs. A big drop in price? I wonder those who are buying Grandis previously just manage to pay the discount amount of 50k on their loan. :) Looks it gonna compete head to head with Wish and Stream on this price bracket. Good move. We want more FTAs.

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]]> By: kimikim http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110466 kimikim Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:01:39 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110466 damn cun... definitely will buy if got RM. surely beat wish & stream, but new stream saw in s'pore road damn masculine cun damn cun… definitely will buy if got RM. surely beat wish & stream, but new stream saw in s’pore road damn masculine cun

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]]> By: e-nabilll http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110448 e-nabilll Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:47:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110448 yup.best looking mpv around...beter than those terribly chromed alphards going around yup.best looking mpv around…beter than those terribly chromed alphards going around

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]]> By: mits27 http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110431 mits27 Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:41:24 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110431 This is great car with bigger dimension, higher hp, CBU Japan, 5 years warranty, but similiar price compare tp toyota wish and stream... This is great car with bigger dimension, higher hp, CBU Japan, 5 years warranty, but similiar price compare tp toyota wish and stream…

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]]> By: nmh http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110425 nmh Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:34:35 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110425 Noy this Odessey competitor want to compete with toyota wish Noy this Odessey competitor want to compete with toyota wish

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]]> By: ingolstadt http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110424 ingolstadt Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:33:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110424 Odyssey is still the king of mpvs. thou i dun understand why estima outsells it. Odyssey is still the king of mpvs. thou i dun understand why estima outsells it.

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]]> By: kimmy http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110413 kimmy Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:57:45 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110413 Looks great, but if I'm looking for an MPV the Odyssey still tops my list. Looks great, but if I’m looking for an MPV the Odyssey still tops my list.

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]]> By: s60t http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110394 s60t Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:03:07 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110394 I wish they had launched this earlier.I was thinking of buying this car but thought the price as a bit steep.Bought a toyota wish which is smaller for RM156K instead.But I suppose I should count myself lucky that I didn't buy this car for RM205K. Would really kick myself then. I wish they had launched this earlier.I was thinking of buying this car but thought the price as a bit steep.Bought a toyota wish which is smaller for RM156K instead.But I suppose I should count myself lucky that I didn’t buy this car for RM205K. Would really kick myself then.

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]]> By: LittleFire85 http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110378 LittleFire85 Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:15:59 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110378 Yup.. i heard the AP is going to abolish soon between Asian country starting with Thailand imports... 1 AP can sell from RM10k-RM100k, if the current AP for this Grandis is RM50k, maybe can sell cheaper after AP abolish.. Anywayz i am not hoping for the 2.4L Mivec, is still a SOHC engine.. in Japan the GDI engine perform more better then the SOHC Mivec.. Yup.. i heard the AP is going to abolish soon between Asian country starting with Thailand imports… 1 AP can sell from RM10k-RM100k, if the current AP for this Grandis is RM50k, maybe can sell cheaper after AP abolish.. Anywayz i am not hoping for the 2.4L Mivec, is still a SOHC engine.. in Japan the GDI engine perform more better then the SOHC Mivec..

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]]> By: AmiR http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110376 AmiR Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:14:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110376 wow....Grandis VS. Toyota Estima.....xD nice, hope Mitsubishi lancer Evo 10 will have such a drop also!!...xD wow….Grandis VS. Toyota Estima…..xD

nice, hope Mitsubishi lancer Evo 10 will have such a drop also!!…xD

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]]> By: endy http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110373 endy Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:07:00 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110373 Maybe the FTA with Japan is starting to show the impact to the price of import CBU from there? Maybe the FTA with Japan is starting to show the impact to the price of import CBU from there?

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]]> By: szw http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110363 szw Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:25:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110363 what happen to the price ? what happen to the price ?

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]]> By: jackson91 http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110358 jackson91 Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:22:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110358 the front bumper lower grille looks like the refreshed,not facelifted ;-), BMW 5 series. since there is this facelift launch, would this mean a total model change would be coming up in the next 2/3 years? the front bumper lower grille looks like the refreshed,not facelifted ;-) , BMW 5 series.

since there is this facelift launch, would this mean a total model change would be coming up in the next 2/3 years?

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]]> By: J http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110356 J Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:18:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110356 Why a big drop in price ? Similarly CBU Japan, but price drop of RM50K. Import Tax has been reduced ? (is it a non-transparent to us ?) The new Lancer 2.0 would have been RM140K (now is RM113K) if it was available previously. Why a big drop in price ? Similarly CBU Japan, but price drop of RM50K. Import Tax has been reduced ? (is it a non-transparent to us ?)

The new Lancer 2.0 would have been RM140K (now is RM113K) if it was available previously.

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]]> By: joeysis http://paultan.org/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110349 joeysis Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:27:35 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/12/facelifted-mitsubishi-grandis-in-malaysia/#comment-110349 another big step from Mitsubishi, keep goin n bring more good car! another big step from Mitsubishi, keep goin n bring more good car!

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