i think it’s harder for proton+khazanah to sign the agreement.
dear all proton workers form top to bottom. if you want save your pocket,work more smart+efficient+harder.

and don’t involve with
“rasuah” ( not all at proton do that) !!
thanks.

facts is proton is protected. period.
if proton is not protected, perodua will have it’s range of sedan car directly competing with proton’s sedan like wira, waja or the new persona. look at perodua, no sedan car at the moment. yet proton producing savvy directly competing with myvi and kelisa.

so who is more protected? in the very 1st place proton shu not produce savvy!! just keep it to sedan like persona. ini la baru boleh untung. now savvy sales is so bad and u want to blame on perodua.

about tax issue. u don have facts on that!! show us the facts that proton paid billion of taxes compare to other car maker!!

“How much did mega selling P2 make last year? Where’s the money?”
perodua is not a public listing company and they have no reason to reveal their P&L to the public. P2 make lots of money and if the consumer is happy with the product, it is a good thing. P1 makes lot of money via protection and consumer generally not happy with the product, that’s not a good thing.

Tax money
During the good years Proton made pre-tax profit of almost a billion. Work out how much income tax was paid.

How much did mega selling P2 make last year? Where’s the money?

proton is not protected? if proton is not protected, not only proton have to fight perodua but also toyota, honda, mitsu, bmw, cherry, kia, hundai n etc. now proton have only one competitor which is perodua and people complain that proton is not protected. what the heck proton want? all for himself?

Everyone who has something nice to say about Proton must be a Proton salesman or employee…Some people are so pshycic…

What about the bashers who try and twist everything about proton and bash-bash-bash? Are they rival salesmen?

This is the problem, sometimes some people are so negative that the mood is that everything is wrong and it becomes unfashionable to say something good about Proton.

Proton is protected? Right now it fighting with Perodua-a Daihatsu/Toyota subsidiary who are given all the SAME TAX BREAKS so by right Proton should be dead right now…

Back to the topic.

I’ve never heard of air asia being protected. If it is, how come they only started with two 737s? I tot protected projects/business start in a BIG way? No offence intended…

air Asia is protected, as there are no other “low cost” airlines flying domestically in Malaysia on the route that Air Asia plies. The subsidizing a number of low cost termanal (KK & LCCT).

The big datuk of Proton have make the mistakes of trying to go for young execs market and now Proton are paying for it. The big datuk himself is out of the job, same goes with MAS etc.

Its a similar story elsewhere, the CEO make mistake they have to pay for it.

And Proton is certainly not sitting idle doing nothing, and waiting for a white knight in shining armour that is VW to come and rescue her. It is busy developing new products. The Saga replacement is next, followed by an MPV, which prototyping stage has started I believe. Profit from Persona and the Saga replacement will certainly fuel development for future products.

Khazanah is the Govt, and those in the Govt is something that you chose in the election. So whatever happens to Proton, is a taste of your own medicine. Lets hope it tastes good!

All the numerical values given by VW doesn’t mean a thing, but letting Proton cover it’s losses is a more serious issue…

It’s been a while since my last post, when I click the PaulTan.org, I saw this previous blog; “Proton Post Loss for Q1 2007”. I just can’t hold myself for not giving any comments. I was right about Proton, from day one.

Just reading some of the blog I already knew, most of the bloggers in here are directly or indirectly connected with Proton. I presume most of them are Proton salesman (which is still not doing enough sales) and easily-satisfied Proton owners (most likely first time car owner). So, for newcomers in one of these Proton blog, please do not be fool by so call “positive remarks” by some bloggers in here, their intention is in self-personal interest (conflict of interest) by making fake remarks on Proton’s products so the “rakyat” will think Proton is the ultimate car while there are many other better choices out there. Bear in mind, we are the consumers, and we have the every right to gather and spend our income only on quality and cheap products. Not on overpriced “Tin Milos” that have fuel pump problem and flammable car and… the list goes on.

Since 1985, the government was capable creating a perfect scenario; in which Proton is the cheapest car in Malaysia, while the facts remain; it was “Big-G’s Local Car Manufacturer Protection Programme” which protects Proton from the real-life competition out there (globalization). By excluding Proton from primary Taxes and Duties and raising imported cars Taxes and Duties, even with these all sorts of protections, Proton is still barely “merangkak” even after 20 years! The worst part is; they sell Proton car very cheap at overseas and sell it very expensive to its own poor “rakyat”. While other Car Manufacturers strive hard in real-life competition by making bank loans, taking risks, effective Research and Development and et-cetera, Protonians however, can still seat down and “minum kopi” at the nearest mamak stall, why is it? It’s because the government sure will bail them anytime when they’re in trouble. This kind of mentality has rendered them to be useless and unworthy for real-life car industry competition. Heck, just look at Proton’s 1st MPV; Proton Juara. At least Perodua and Daihatsu claim their cars are in Compact Section (Small car, or K-Car), but Proton choose Big Names for very Small Car (again, I’m referring to Proton Juara Refrigerator). At first the policy was meant to help Proton to stand-up by itself, but some greedy politicians also wants to be ‘kroni-kroni’. Please don’t get me wrong, I’m not against the Policy, I’m against the misuse of the Policy.

Points to Ponder:
I’m always amazed with AirAsia’s story of success, as our second National Airliner, starting with only 2 units of second hand Airbus (or is it Boeing’s 737s?), in 5 years, AirAsia managed to be one of the leading LCC provider in Asia. I still remember a lot of Malaysians mocking AirAsia as low-standard airliner. ‘They’ better take back those harsh words, now they’re merging with another LCC from Europe making AirAsia one of the World’s Largest LCC operators! I think our local car manufacturer should learn more from AirAsia plight to success. They did it in less than 5 years… and “ehem” our local car manufacturer has been doing it for what… 20 years +++ still quality/price is ‘questionable’. Look what happen to the big “G” protected Airliner (MAS), after the big “Datuks” in the previous management did a lot of mistakes and mismanagement, now they’re shifting the wreck ‘ship’ to Idris Jala, pity that guy, good luck to that Sarawak CEO. I’m sure he’s doing his best to fix the damages done by irresponsible “entities”. Enough said.

Yours truly,
SY0H

and here http://jairesources.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6&Itemid=2

and continue to rip off the public money in the name of patriotism. by the way, i’m sure VW would like to know the proceedings and results of the inquiry into the dark dealings of the past proton management which im sure has been already dismissed.

my godness!

Next u know, they will delay till 2009… with another partner…

Hopefully both parties (Volkswagen AG and Proton) will finally tie-up February 2008. Please no more delays.