Comments on: New RENESIS II Coupe to debut at Tokyo http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:59:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Gopi naidu http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-330011 Gopi naidu Wed, 12 May 2010 03:15:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-330011 Any idea when mazda Rx 7 4th generation and mazda Rx9 to be introduced in malaysia? Any idea when mazda Rx 7 4th generation and mazda Rx9 to be introduced in malaysia?

]]> By: LittleFire85 http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-112173 LittleFire85 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:34:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-112173 Ok thx. Ok thx.

]]> By: gabanpolis http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-112152 gabanpolis Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:22:23 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-112152 LittleFire85, do copy this link, download and read the article, by ford. on the first page, look at the table. it would answer you. i am just want to clarify things up. media.ford.com/pdf/rotary3_e.pdf LittleFire85, do copy this link, download and read the article, by ford. on the first page, look at the table. it would answer you. i am just want to clarify things up.
media.ford.com/pdf/rotary3_e.pdf

]]> By: LittleFire85 http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-112144 LittleFire85 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 06:33:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-112144 My statement wrong? US market are 1 of the most selling sport car in the world. California is just a state, well how about others? If i not mistaken some country take it as 2.6L... I think the spec in US have more output then the JDM. Check for it man... The JDM some may have turbo or supercharge, but those are not factory fitted. If US are so strict, why does bush don't want to sign the environment agreement? And still supporting the GM & Ford to produce big block engine? Anywayz i just mention IF! My statement wrong? US market are 1 of the most selling sport car in the world. California is just a state, well how about others? If i not mistaken some country take it as 2.6L… I think the spec in US have more output then the JDM. Check for it man… The JDM some may have turbo or supercharge, but those are not factory fitted. If US are so strict, why does bush don’t want to sign the environment agreement? And still supporting the GM & Ford to produce big block engine? Anywayz i just mention IF!

]]> By: gabanpolis http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-112112 gabanpolis Tue, 25 Sep 2007 01:07:45 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-112112 littlefire85, that is a wrong statement if you're saying that the rx8 and mx5 sold more in usa because their emission regulation is not too strict. in fact, the regulations in california is the strictest in the world, thanks to CARB. if you can sell a car in california, you can practically sell it anywhere. for the rx8, the power output for usa model is different from the jdm model because of the stricter regulations. i can still remember when the car first launched there, the customers were crying foul when independent dyno test revealed that the cars were producing less than advertised horsepower, which prompted mazda to offer customers to buy back their car or some discounts if what i am remembering is correct. besides in us, for the fuel consumption of a 1.3L rotary engine will probably be considered ok because they are used to the big v8 engine. also in usa, there is tax that you have to pay according to your car's fuel consumption, can't remember what is the name of the tax. littlefire85, that is a wrong statement if you’re saying that the rx8 and mx5 sold more in usa because their emission regulation is not too strict. in fact, the regulations in california is the strictest in the world, thanks to CARB. if you can sell a car in california, you can practically sell it anywhere. for the rx8, the power output for usa model is different from the jdm model because of the stricter regulations. i can still remember when the car first launched there, the customers were crying foul when independent dyno test revealed that the cars were producing less than advertised horsepower, which prompted mazda to offer customers to buy back their car or some discounts if what i am remembering is correct. besides in us, for the fuel consumption of a 1.3L rotary engine will probably be considered ok because they are used to the big v8 engine. also in usa, there is tax that you have to pay according to your car’s fuel consumption, can’t remember what is the name of the tax.

]]> By: LittleFire85 http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111994 LittleFire85 Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:42:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111994 I really scare of the emission regulation... Normally if the car FC really worst.. the emission will fail & cannot be sale in their country. Coz some country may think that this 1.3L engine category really drinks water... That why RX-8 & MX-5 sells more in foreign country, especially US market... I really scare of the emission regulation… Normally if the car FC really worst.. the emission will fail & cannot be sale in their country. Coz some country may think that this 1.3L engine category really drinks water… That why RX-8 & MX-5 sells more in foreign country, especially US market…

]]> By: williaml http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111882 williaml Sat, 22 Sep 2007 15:42:19 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111882 If you drive a sport car like RX-8 or super luxury car like RR, do you still think what is the FC? Zoom Zoom... If you drive a sport car like RX-8 or super luxury car like RR, do you still think what is the FC?

Zoom Zoom…

]]> By: nmh http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111790 nmh Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:55:48 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111790 Sorry.. talking nonsense while waiting for new topic from paul. Actually someone said rotary fc about 7-8km/liter...tats about the same with RR phantom v12 6750cc fc....and etc etc izit true btw Sorry.. talking nonsense while waiting for new topic from paul.

Actually someone said rotary fc about 7-8km/liter…tats about the same with RR phantom v12 6750cc fc….and etc etc

izit true btw

]]> By: LittleFire85 http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111781 LittleFire85 Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:47:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111781 WTF does Mazda rotary engine does wif RR? WTF does Mazda rotary engine does wif RR?

]]> By: nmh http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111778 nmh Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:48:23 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111778 have anyone saw rr phantom in malaysia? have anyone saw rr phantom in malaysia?

]]> By: LittleFire85 http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111756 LittleFire85 Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:00:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111756 I seen 1 in Penang, i think is RR corniche.. Rumoured is own by MBF group chairman... I seen 1 in Penang, i think is RR corniche.. Rumoured is own by MBF group chairman…

]]> By: williaml http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111754 williaml Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:25:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111754 RR? Do you see any on the road? RR? Do you see any on the road?

]]> By: nmh http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111719 nmh Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:27:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111719 7-8km/liter...demn...tats a 6750cc v12 rolls royce fc 7-8km/liter…demn…tats a 6750cc v12 rolls royce fc

]]> By: williaml http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111715 williaml Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:09:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111715 New RENESIS II will be on new 4th gen Mazda RX-7, not on RX-8. Sport car not always consumed much on petrol. RX-8 average can get around 7 to 8km per liter, I don't think it has high FC. When you have a car with more than 200hp, you still expect it would have FC like 1.5L car? I guess the new 4th gen RX-7 is on 1.5L RENESIS II with about 300hp. Zoom Zoom... New RENESIS II will be on new 4th gen Mazda RX-7, not on RX-8.

Sport car not always consumed much on petrol. RX-8 average can get around 7 to 8km per liter, I don’t think it has high FC. When you have a car with more than 200hp, you still expect it would have FC like 1.5L car?

I guess the new 4th gen RX-7 is on 1.5L RENESIS II with about 300hp.

Zoom Zoom…

]]> By: aesthari http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111714 aesthari Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:03:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111714 Exciting news indeed! We can only wonder what will be the output of the new engine if they are already milking so much power out of the 1.3L! I don't think I'll be wrong to label the 13B as an engineering marvel, alongside the legendary RB26DETT, after all, it's been powering generations of rotary rockets and putting much larger engines to shame in the process. This is the little engine that could. A diesel rotary might be reality one day too, considering most automakers are going that way. Exciting news indeed! We can only wonder what will be the output of the new engine if they are already milking so much power out of the 1.3L! I don’t think I’ll be wrong to label the 13B as an engineering marvel, alongside the legendary RB26DETT, after all, it’s been powering generations of rotary rockets and putting much larger engines to shame in the process. This is the little engine that could. A diesel rotary might be reality one day too, considering most automakers are going that way.

]]> By: LittleFire85 http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111707 LittleFire85 Fri, 21 Sep 2007 01:42:13 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111707 Well.. in the previous RX-7 the rotary engine really drink fuel like water.. but in the RX-8 they manage to redesign the engine to more better FC, that why they name is the first generation of renesis engine.. Dont believe? check for wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_Wankel_engine "The RENESIS engine – also 13B-MSP, for Multi Side Port –, which first appeared in production in the 2003 Mazda RX-8, is an evolution of the previous 13B. It was designed to reduce exhaust emission and improve fuel economy, which were two of the most recurrent drawbacks of rotary engines." "These and other innovative technologies allow the RENESIS to achieve 49% higher output and dramatically reduced fuel consumption and emissions (the RX-8 meets LEV-II). It won International Engine of the Year and Best New Engine awards 2003 and also holds the "2.5 to 3 liter" size award for 2003 and 2004, where it is considered a 2.60 L engine. Finally, it was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines list for 2004 and 2005. The RENESIS has also been adapted for a dual-fuel use, allowing it to run either on gasoline or hydrogen." Well.. in the previous RX-7 the rotary engine really drink fuel like water.. but in the RX-8 they manage to redesign the engine to more better FC, that why they name is the first generation of renesis engine.. Dont believe? check for wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_Wankel_engine

“The RENESIS engine – also 13B-MSP, for Multi Side Port –, which first appeared in production in the 2003 Mazda RX-8, is an evolution of the previous 13B. It was designed to reduce exhaust emission and improve fuel economy, which were two of the most recurrent drawbacks of rotary engines.”

“These and other innovative technologies allow the RENESIS to achieve 49% higher output and dramatically reduced fuel consumption and emissions (the RX-8 meets LEV-II). It won International Engine of the Year and Best New Engine awards 2003 and also holds the “2.5 to 3 liter” size award for 2003 and 2004, where it is considered a 2.60 L engine. Finally, it was on the Ward’s 10 Best Engines list for 2004 and 2005.

The RENESIS has also been adapted for a dual-fuel use, allowing it to run either on gasoline or hydrogen.”

]]> By: rexis http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111706 rexis Fri, 21 Sep 2007 01:41:41 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111706 Well i guess a 2.0 rotary will have power like 4.0 and fc like 6.0? Well i guess a 2.0 rotary will have power like 4.0 and fc like 6.0?

]]> By: razor_clawzz http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111695 razor_clawzz Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:41:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111695 C'mon, wankel/rotary engines are designed to be smooth and hi-rev, that's y it's only used in performance cars (Mazda 787B, Le Mans winner), and RX-7s and 8s. If u want good FC, get a Lexus instead for that kind of money C’mon, wankel/rotary engines are designed to be smooth and hi-rev, that’s y it’s only used in performance cars (Mazda 787B, Le Mans winner), and RX-7s and 8s. If u want good FC, get a Lexus instead for that kind of money

]]> By: mystvearn http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111677 mystvearn Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:08:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111677 Praying it goes into new RX-8 and does not drink fuel like water Praying it goes into new RX-8 and does not drink fuel like water

]]> By: Coltrain http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111651 Coltrain Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:53:39 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111651 LittleFire85, 1.3cc rotary already that power..... is 2.0cc hmmm......hard to imagine about it... LittleFire85,
1.3cc rotary already that power…..
is 2.0cc hmmm……hard to imagine about it…

]]> By: transformer http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111649 transformer Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:48:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111649 and improve lifespan.... say min 500,000 for no-brainer petrol heads! and improve lifespan…. say min 500,000 for no-brainer petrol heads!

]]> By: szw http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111641 szw Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:16:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111641 rotary dream rotary dream

]]> By: nobodyatuk http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111624 nobodyatuk Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:53:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111624 ooo...thanks Jamsbong, no wonder why it looks like the new Mondeo. ooo…thanks Jamsbong, no wonder why it looks like the new Mondeo.

]]> By: LittleFire85 http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111620 LittleFire85 Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:30:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111620 Hope the new Renesis 2 engine will not exceed 2.0L... road tax is expensive in Malaysia... Hopefully it is better FC then it's predecessor.. Hope the new Renesis 2 engine will not exceed 2.0L… road tax is expensive in Malaysia… Hopefully it is better FC then it’s predecessor..

]]> By: jamsbong http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111615 jamsbong Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:06:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111615 I agree with what nobodyatuk said. Mazda makes great cars and they have brave and creative people. However, Mazda is partly owned by Ford, not GM. GM is a louzy company, example of what they've done is shown in suzuki, isuzu, and subaru. subaru never manage to update their car impreza chassis under GM. Izusu, suzuki is selling cheaper and lower quality cars than ever before, they are on par or less than Korean cars now. I agree with what nobodyatuk said. Mazda makes great cars and they have brave and creative people.

However, Mazda is partly owned by Ford, not GM.
GM is a louzy company, example of what they’ve done is shown in suzuki, isuzu, and subaru.
subaru never manage to update their car impreza chassis under GM.
Izusu, suzuki is selling cheaper and lower quality cars than ever before, they are on par or less than Korean cars now.

]]> By: nobodyatuk http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111600 nobodyatuk Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:23:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111600 Mazda is always a good car and getting better each time. If VW can revive Proton like what GM did to Mazda, can't see why there shouldn't be any collaboration. Mazda is always a good car and getting better each time. If VW can revive Proton like what GM did to Mazda, can’t see why there shouldn’t be any collaboration.

]]> By: darren82my http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111597 darren82my Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:08:41 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111597 Wow....sounds like very powerful tech....since Toyota, Nissan and Honda's tech hv been move to advance level, it's the time for Mazda to reload its reputation in up coming market.... Wow….sounds like very powerful tech….since Toyota, Nissan and Honda’s tech hv been move to advance level, it’s the time for Mazda to reload its reputation in up coming market….

]]> By: nmh http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111591 nmh Thu, 20 Sep 2007 07:51:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111591 Hope no more hi-rev-torque rotary Hope no more hi-rev-torque rotary

]]> By: MaverickNeo http://paultan.org/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111589 MaverickNeo Thu, 20 Sep 2007 07:26:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/20/new-renesis-ii-coupe-to-debut-at-tokyo/#comment-111589 OMG!!! Rotary FTW!!! Can't wait! OMG!!! Rotary FTW!!! Can’t wait!

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