Comments on: New Proton BLM Spyshot http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:37:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: aenz81 http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-143201 aenz81 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:21:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-143201 Too much comment... if u dont like and dont want that car... so... my advice is.... dont beli lah... this car look fantastic to me for just about below than 40k. maybe u can buy a big car such as BMW... so, this is not a car for u. it was a car for people like us (average money in saving account) mukhri88 said, September 26, 2007 @ 1:10 pm Typical three box design, lack of emotional lines, front end could be sharper for that garang look, but then, it’s a SAGA. Family car, pasar car, why should they make it pretty? Following the typical M’sian requirement (if proton conducted market research at all) would be, super large boot, save minyak, and a four seater back seat. Since it won’t have a performance engine, doesn’t matter if it looks like a chicken coop. Oh, and a TUV certification so that we can take it to kebun also. Just be sure the aircond is really, really cold. Take the roof so high it’ll set a new standard in category. Too much comment… if u dont like and dont want that car… so… my advice is…. dont beli lah… this car look fantastic to me for just about below than 40k. maybe u can buy a big car such as BMW… so, this is not a car for u. it was a car for people like us (average money in saving account)

mukhri88 said,
September 26, 2007 @ 1:10 pm

Typical three box design, lack of emotional lines, front end could be sharper for that garang look, but then, it’s a SAGA. Family car, pasar car, why should they make it pretty? Following the typical M’sian requirement (if proton conducted market research at all) would be, super large boot, save minyak, and a four seater back seat. Since it won’t have a performance engine, doesn’t matter if it looks like a chicken coop. Oh, and a TUV certification so that we can take it to kebun also. Just be sure the aircond is really, really cold. Take the roof so high it’ll set a new standard in category.

]]> By: Black and white Proton BLM spyshot http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-116494 Black and white Proton BLM spyshot Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:31:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-116494 [...] Proton BLM Posts: New Proton BLM spyshot - this time in turquoise! Another rear shot of the Proton BLM Is this the new Proton BLM? Clearer Proton BLM side profile [...] [...] Proton BLM Posts: New Proton BLM spyshot – this time in turquoise! Another rear shot of the Proton BLM Is this the new Proton BLM? Clearer Proton BLM side profile [...]

]]> By: proton.GL.. http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-113609 proton.GL.. Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:07:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-113609 this by friend ,Danny http://bp0.blogger.com/_3MbGQR7J8tg/RwPLfzfMdjI/AAAAAAAAABE/4ieXZvpOEpc/s1600-h/ZZ+copy.jpg this by friend ,Danny

http://bp0.blogger.com/_3MbGQR7J8tg/RwPLfzfMdjI/AAAAAAAAABE/4ieXZvpOEpc/s1600-h/ZZ+copy.jpg

]]> By: gabanpolis http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-113050 gabanpolis Mon, 01 Oct 2007 03:21:58 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-113050 please use this link to download lotus proactive issue 3. this will give all of you who still have doubt on campro's origin the answer. the article are on page 6 and 7. for info, the piston size of the campro's engine (1.6L and 1.3L) is the same as for mitsubishi 4g18 (1.6L as previously used in waja). this is due to measure to maximise profitability as line-up during the campro initial briefing, utilize much of the existing proton manufacturing facilities. the difference in capacity for both 1.6L and 1.3L campro is due to stroke not bore, as same piston is used. www.just-auto.com/proactive/ pdf/Lotus-proActive-issue-3.pdf just copy the link to download. please use this link to download lotus proactive issue 3. this will give all of you who still have doubt on campro’s origin the answer.
the article are on page 6 and 7.
for info, the piston size of the campro’s engine (1.6L and 1.3L) is the same as for mitsubishi 4g18 (1.6L as previously used in waja). this is due to measure to maximise profitability as line-up during the campro initial briefing, utilize much of the existing proton manufacturing facilities.
the difference in capacity for both 1.6L and 1.3L campro is due to stroke not bore, as same piston is used.

http://www.just-auto.com/proactive/ pdf/Lotus-proActive-issue-3.pdf

just copy the link to download.

]]> By: proton.GL.. http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-113009 proton.GL.. Sun, 30 Sep 2007 18:34:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-113009 What is soulless design?, Jumping from model to model , without any trace or process of evolution, no reference, No concept to hold on, No history or cultural reference. Well, This blm was design although not as radical ,but the essence good design , it does follow, Design clue mostly in respect to its sibling protons, It does have some hint of angular character in respect of the past saga, Large front window starts from lower shoulder line makes bigger apature window is what the previous saga known for, This saga is carefully done, Let see when its roll I don’t blame who don’t like proton, but every proton car comes its nice to look at in flesh. What is soulless design?,

Jumping from model to model , without any trace or process of evolution, no reference,
No concept to hold on,
No history or cultural reference.

Well,

This blm was design although not as radical ,but the essence good design , it does follow,
Design clue mostly in respect to its sibling protons,
It does have some hint of angular character in respect of the past saga,
Large front window starts from lower shoulder line makes bigger apature window is what the previous saga known for,

This saga is carefully done,
Let see when its roll

I don’t blame who don’t like proton, but every proton car comes its nice to look at in flesh.

]]> By: intermilan http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-113001 intermilan Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:51:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-113001 tired design.. no soul.. they should put some soul into it.. the cheapo kelisa got bashed by JC even when he know it is cheap basic car .. like topgunthang said... it reminds of those russian/eastern europe car design of the 70/80's.. so for me, the morale of the story is.. cheap should not be lifeless, soulless... it should or could be fun and inspiring design too. simple example for the above principle is toyota agyo/citroen c1/peugeot 107.... cute cheap little car. not many could say them soulless, lifeless, tired design. tired design.. no soul.. they should put some soul into it..
the cheapo kelisa got bashed by JC even when he know it is cheap basic car .. like topgunthang said… it reminds of those russian/eastern europe car design of the 70/80′s..

so for me, the morale of the story is.. cheap should not be lifeless, soulless… it should or could be fun and inspiring design too.

simple example for the above principle is toyota agyo/citroen c1/peugeot 107…. cute cheap little car. not many could say them soulless, lifeless, tired design.

]]> By: topgunthang http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112993 topgunthang Sun, 30 Sep 2007 15:40:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112993 kind of like those russian cars u never see in any other country. kind of like those russian cars u never see in any other country.

]]> By: gmtgoh http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112958 gmtgoh Sun, 30 Sep 2007 08:24:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112958 today i saw the blue colour one la at Melaka Raya....rounding! today i saw the blue colour one la at Melaka Raya….rounding!

]]> By: kei9 http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112848 kei9 Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:23:45 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112848 Hmm..Mr eh? haha! I think we're almost the same age and its pityful enough.. ,THAT HE SAID IT Hmm..Mr eh? haha!

I think we’re almost the same age and its pityful enough..

,THAT HE SAID IT

]]> By: ilmondo http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112824 ilmondo Sat, 29 Sep 2007 06:31:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112824 haha.. ther r quite a number of comments on Mr JulianLee.. well.. i dunno watz in his mind.. but having driven my family's continental car, japs as well as a humble pre-Lotus Proton sedan.. i would say tat it may not be as plush, solid, prestigious and many more as other brands.. but it certainly has its own charm.. u may say tat i'm very lucky as it has been serving us well with only normal 5000km services and some other wear and tear. i'm also impressed by the 'purity' of dis Proton.. it doesnt hav any electronic driving aids, eg:ABS,EBD,TC.... personally think that tis car wil look good with r3 kits.. dis is an important model.. and saw a great news regarding proton+china youngman company on chinese daily today.. BRAVO! haha.. ther r quite a number of comments on Mr JulianLee..

well.. i dunno watz in his mind.. but having driven my family’s continental car, japs as well as a humble pre-Lotus Proton sedan.. i would say tat it may not be as plush, solid, prestigious and many more as other brands.. but it certainly has its own charm.. u may say tat i’m very lucky as it has been serving us well with only normal 5000km services and some other wear and tear. i’m also impressed by the ‘purity’ of dis Proton.. it doesnt hav any electronic driving aids, eg:ABS,EBD,TC….

personally think that tis car wil look good with r3 kits.. dis is an important model.. and saw a great news regarding proton+china youngman company on chinese daily today.. BRAVO!

]]> By: akshen_kamen http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112757 akshen_kamen Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:00:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112757 dont cry JULIANLEE..its your mistake to show ur dumb and stupidity at the right and right place..haha dont cry JULIANLEE..its your mistake to show ur dumb and stupidity at the right and right place..haha

]]> By: 90125 http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112754 90125 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:56:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112754 JULIANLEE2 said, September 27, 2007 @ 3:44 pm proton blm for base line mentality, for really dumb ppl who drive protons and claim that they drive proton beacuse they love the country , real shite ---------------------------------------------------------------- a boy who wants attention,poor boy...I have a balloon for u to play..hehe..cars is for adults only..what? dont want a balloon?well I'll get u a barbie doll.... JULIANLEE2 said,
September 27, 2007 @ 3:44 pm

proton blm for base line mentality, for really dumb ppl who drive protons and claim that they drive proton beacuse they love the country , real shite
—————————————————————- a boy who wants attention,poor boy…I have a balloon for u to play..hehe..cars is for adults only..what? dont want a balloon?well I’ll get u a barbie doll….

]]> By: akshen_kamen http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112746 akshen_kamen Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:56:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112746 JULIANLEE maybe already piss in his pants.that why he very quiet already.. JULIANLEE maybe already piss in his pants.that why he very quiet already..

]]> By: raybrig85 http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112738 raybrig85 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:02:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112738 to JULIANLEE....ure too harsh man...im nt stupid k...im an architect and ive owned a nissan murano,alfa romeo 147 and hv owed satria bt let it go 4 my alfa romeo 159...still...ive owned proton...if u want to bash proton...bashla...i dun mind bt plz dun said we who own the proton is fool... to JULIANLEE….ure too harsh man…im nt stupid k…im an architect and ive owned a nissan murano,alfa romeo 147 and hv owed satria bt let it go 4 my alfa romeo 159…still…ive owned proton…if u want to bash proton…bashla…i dun mind bt plz dun said we who own the proton is fool…

]]> By: kei9 http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112721 kei9 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:50:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112721 Its a photoshop image.. Very obvios.. Its a photoshop image..

Very obvios..

]]> By: proton.GL.. http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112720 proton.GL.. Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:46:13 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112720 i found this, not too bad http://bp3.blogger.com/_3MbGQR7J8tg/Rv0RSDfMdeI/AAAAAAAAAAg/2i5jl3AIwg0/s1600-h/blmc+copy.jpg i found this, not too bad

http://bp3.blogger.com/_3MbGQR7J8tg/Rv0RSDfMdeI/AAAAAAAAAAg/2i5jl3AIwg0/s1600-h/blmc+copy.jpg

]]> By: syanas http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112704 syanas Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:55:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112704 LittleFire85 lets make some engines & then we can sell it in pasar malam,haha...your comment like u're very intelligent person in automotive engineering... LittleFire85

lets make some engines & then we can sell it in pasar malam,haha…your comment like u’re very intelligent person in automotive engineering…

]]> By: akshen_kamen http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112686 akshen_kamen Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:32:16 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112686 # ab said, September 28, 2007 @ 5:56 pm why do i have the feeling that this is going to be one of the worst looking proton? please proton, the persona was ok. don’t stuff up again! __________________________________________________________________ come on..that just the prototype model..just wait for the real one...sigh... #
ab said,

September 28, 2007 @ 5:56 pm

why do i have the feeling that this is going to be one of the worst looking proton? please proton, the persona was ok. don’t stuff up again!

__________________________________________________________________

come on..that just the prototype model..just wait for the real one…sigh…

]]> By: ab http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112683 ab Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:56:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112683 why do i have the feeling that this is going to be one of the worst looking proton? please proton, the persona was ok. don't stuff up again! why do i have the feeling that this is going to be one of the worst looking proton? please proton, the persona was ok. don’t stuff up again!

]]> By: pheonix_comet http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112653 pheonix_comet Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:53:24 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112653 the main point i think is whats under the hood; is it still the same old 1.3 craby magma or equip with the same lauzy campro without camprofile stuff. i have been driven my manager gen2 (A) for few time. my conclusion for campro is the engine only work good at cold weather. at hot sunny weather it is like draggin cow, the pick up is worst than a kancil 850. Donno the other do face this kind of problem o not my own opinion, why the engine only good at cold weather; becuase most of the R&D is at europe country. HAHAHAHA~~!!!! the main point i think is whats under the hood; is it still the same old 1.3 craby magma or equip with the same lauzy campro without camprofile stuff.

i have been driven my manager gen2 (A) for few time. my conclusion for campro is the engine only work good at cold weather. at hot sunny weather it is like draggin cow, the pick up is worst than a kancil 850.

Donno the other do face this kind of problem o not

my own opinion, why the engine only good at cold weather; becuase most of the R&D is at europe country. HAHAHAHA~~!!!!

]]> By: nizam80 http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112646 nizam80 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:04:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112646 To JULIANLEE2, Shut up, Kid! To JULIANLEE2,

Shut up, Kid!

]]> By: nescartel http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112643 nescartel Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:39:24 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112643 a wise man once said, <b>"Never argue with idiots"</b> :p a wise man once said,
“Never argue with idiots” :p

]]> By: kei9 http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112640 kei9 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:29:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112640 Well, i am a teen, but i am not liking ppls who type words without even thinking. So, the conciquences, one are bashed inetivably.. Well, i am a teen, but i am not liking ppls who type words without even thinking.

So, the conciquences, one are bashed inetivably..

]]> By: raptorclans http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112615 raptorclans Fri, 28 Sep 2007 03:28:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112615 hahahaha... JULIANLEE2 is just a BUDAK MENTAH.. .no wonder his comments all so IMMATURE... anyways looking forward to the launch of this car... looks sweet :) hahahaha… JULIANLEE2 is just a BUDAK MENTAH.. .no wonder his comments all so IMMATURE…

anyways looking forward to the launch of this car… looks sweet :)

]]> By: xstan http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112610 xstan Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:06:35 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112610 I have no saying on the spyshot thing , but after showing the Photoes taken in the LG office, the Proton Dealer that I know off stated that its just close resembalnce of the actual car...just quote, the back of the real BLM is much BOXY look.The rear lights positioning is not same as the phtoes taken in LG office. They identify that all the Proton staff are there standing obeserving the vehicle in LG but the car is not BLM unit. They stressed that dont expect much on the look department of this BLM but its the Price that attract the market. They just smirk & say its will be close RM30K price but no confirmation just yet as they are still strategise the positioning of the car. There will not be any 1.5 L unit since Campro only produce 1.3 & 1.6. Mentioned that expect Waja & Gen 2 CPS anytime soon & the price will remain as the previous even with addition features. I have no saying on the spyshot thing , but after showing the Photoes taken in the LG office, the Proton Dealer that I know off stated that its just close resembalnce of the actual car…just quote, the back of the real BLM is much BOXY look.The rear lights positioning is not same as the phtoes taken in LG office. They identify that all the Proton staff are there standing obeserving the vehicle in LG but the car is not BLM unit. They stressed that dont expect much on the look department of this BLM but its the Price that attract the market. They just smirk & say its will be close RM30K price but no confirmation just yet as they are still strategise the positioning of the car. There will not be any 1.5 L unit since Campro only produce 1.3 & 1.6.

Mentioned that expect Waja & Gen 2 CPS anytime soon & the price will remain as the previous even with addition features.

]]> By: jeremy http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112608 jeremy Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:52:41 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112608 actually julianlee2 is a school boy. (click his nick to go to his stupid blog). school boy who goes to Chinese school or maybe private school after got expelled for his attitude problem. likes to read car magazine to impress his father and the girl he admire. his father is a strong supporter of a political opposition party, ran own business probably a tyre shop or a restaurant. wants to study in the uk but couldnt get scholarship so his father will send him to taiwan instead where he will probably talk bad about malaysia, mainland china, and all chinese people in general. he will never fit in in society, he thinks hes very smart and being blunt by giving statement and remark but the the truth is, hes a fool. so dont mind him. actually julianlee2 is a school boy. (click his nick to go to his stupid blog).
school boy who goes to Chinese school or maybe private school after got expelled for his attitude problem. likes to read car magazine to impress his father and the girl he admire. his father is a strong supporter of a political opposition party, ran own business probably a tyre shop or a restaurant. wants to study in the uk but couldnt get scholarship so his father will send him to taiwan instead where he will probably talk bad about malaysia, mainland china, and all chinese people in general. he will never fit in in society, he thinks hes very smart and being blunt by giving statement and remark but the the truth is, hes a fool.
so dont mind him.

]]> By: waimak http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112605 waimak Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:18:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112605 In any introduction of a new model, I look forward to new things such as safety features, gadgets, technology, standard and etc. I hope Proton dont forget those in BLM. Design wise this one is hard to judge and it's subjective too. I see most Proton models look sporty, BLM should carry the same gene - overall it's not bad. Bottomline, in the case of Proton, design is not the main issue, the focus now is to bring the company's book in the 'blue' and gain people's trust and confidence. As the saying goes, "once beaten twice shy", dont forget the quality too. In any introduction of a new model, I look forward to new things such as safety features, gadgets, technology, standard and etc. I hope Proton dont forget those in BLM.

Design wise this one is hard to judge and it’s subjective too. I see most Proton models look sporty, BLM should carry the same gene – overall it’s not bad. Bottomline, in the case of Proton, design is not the main issue, the focus now is to bring the company’s book in the ‘blue’ and gain people’s trust and confidence.

As the saying goes, “once beaten twice shy”, dont forget the quality too.

]]> By: nizam80 http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112547 nizam80 Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:37:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112547 If the price really starts from RM 28K, go and die la Perodua Viva!! Anyway, i've a feeling the dashboard is similar to the Savvy's, which is a good thing from a safety point of view. If the price really starts from RM 28K, go and die la Perodua Viva!! Anyway, i’ve a feeling the dashboard is similar to the Savvy’s, which is a good thing from a safety point of view.

]]> By: nizam80 http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112546 nizam80 Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:17:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112546 This car look frighteningly good!! Another successor to the old Saga. Proton has always come up with decent designs!! This car look frighteningly good!! Another successor to the old Saga. Proton has always come up with decent designs!!

]]> By: nobodyatuk http://paultan.org/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112536 nobodyatuk Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:20:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/09/26/new-proton-blm-spyshot/#comment-112536 The previous post by Paul on the Savvy sedan (illustrated by Theo) is exactly how I see the new BLM, minus the unique front window. Should be very appealling to most, and could also be the base for new PERT rally car. The previous post by Paul on the Savvy sedan (illustrated by Theo) is exactly how I see the new BLM, minus the unique front window. Should be very appealling to most, and could also be the base for new PERT rally car.

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