December 14, 2007 @ 10:25 am

Quite true….

Suzuki dan mini adalah dalam kelas yang sama.
Nak bayar muka yang sesuai ada idea tak?
Should i go 10% or maybe 10.000?
Tak Sabar nak angkat tahun depan…

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i ada idea untuk u.. if u ask the dealer mmg dia akan minta 10%. I baru book the car. after discount, i just bayar 1500 je utk dpayment.. but depands pada u berapa nak bayar. if u nak, i can give his number..

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dude .i’m planning to buy a swift.which outlet are getting this deal from?how much is the discount.help me please!!!

CANNOT WAIT MY LOAN TO APPROVE

December 14, 2007 @ 10:25 am

Quite true….

Suzuki dan mini adalah dalam kelas yang sama.
Nak bayar muka yang sesuai ada idea tak?
Should i go 10% or maybe 10.000?
Tak Sabar nak angkat tahun depan…

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i ada idea untuk u.. if u ask the dealer mmg dia akan minta 10%. I baru book the car. after discount, i just bayar 1500 je utk dpayment.. but depands pada u berapa nak bayar. if u nak, i can give his number..

Suzuki dan mini adalah dalam kelas yang sama.
Nak bayar muka yang sesuai ada idea tak?
Should i go 10% or maybe 10.000?
Tak Sabar nak angkat tahun depan…

In Malaysia, I would go for the swift any day. If i’m worried about resale value, I would buy a vios, or city, definitely not the mini. anyways, if i can afford the mini, re-sale price probably wont bother me too much.

aiya nobody talk about its rear claustrophobic with small apature window now?
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Didn;t really bother me.

What i didn’t like is when you have rear passengers, you need to move the rear headrests up (as it is unconfortable to sit with the rear headrest retracted), but then the rear passengers leave, the rear headrest block rear ward visibility.

Its about time they do like the luxury marques with electric folding/raising rear headrest. I have the same problem with my Satria, but I have another 4 door, so I rarely use the Satria to ferry back seaters, thus I had them removed…..

Most hatch backs (2 and 4 doors) has the same problem of rearward visibility problems due to thick C pillars and high decklid (think Gen2). After a while you do get used to it though. Just have to use your mirrors better.

What is “kapcai” means actually?
And pls dont get me wrong as you said new car has higher maintenance? Not suppose the more older the car is, the higher cost to maintain it? You think Viva and Gen2 have same maintenance cost, well normally all new cars have similar maintenance cost thats what i know but depends what kind of engine oil you use.

Regarding to a car saleman, maintain a Gen2 is more costly compare to Mitsubishi Waja just simply because Gen2 using Campro engine. Im talking about the pre-owned cars!

Dont spend too much $ in car, not really that worth. Im driving a bloody 1991 old Saga, maintain it every 5K mileage and RM70 of petrol able to give me 420KM of journey. Ok la for that old junk!!! HAHAHA

My next aim is either Pre-owned iDSI City or New Myvi, both also in similar $.

oops…am i too far from the original topic??? Sorry!

by the way, talking about economical, dont you think that allbrand new car have high maintennac /service charge ? i am refer to gen2,new satria, myvii,viva. soemtme i think that gen2 n viva service/maintenance is same, theonlydifferent isfuel consuptionn n monthlypayment. no doubt that old satria n wira are the most economical maintenance in malaysia ( which is among ur reason to pick satria instead of gen2)
-need other party opinion,since my opinion is without reference, and i think my opinion might wrong.

If you are going from a kapcai, why buy a new car, with prices so depressed already, go buy a used car. Make money count.

I could afford a new car at any time. In fact I was looking at a Gen2 2 years ago. Decided to get a used Satria 1.6/1.8 cash, didn’t have to worry, trashes it at the track, motoring bliss. No loan to worry about. Cheap insurance. Cheap parts.

I could also buy the Gen2 cash also, but woudn’t my money be better off working for me in a high yield investment then in my fast depreciating car?

Worst, heaven forbit, have to pay interest to the bank…..

But I am more lucky then most. But same applies, be smart with your money.

In Economics, the Value of the product is if not what the manufacturer states, its what the consumer perceives and willing to pay.

If a Gen2 is selling for 50k, and a Vios is selling 70k, thats what the car is worth. Its when no one buys a Gen2 at 50k and Vios at 70k, thats when they will drop the price.

adunadun said,
October 5, 2007 @ 8:10 am

i dont care if goverment want give high tax to any car what so ever…. i want to be kaya i give bribe to pollitician… only person who stress with this country will kutuk P1
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Wow..that must be single most obnoxious and mindless comment I will probably read today. What a sorry state the country is in now.

Eh Friend, does it ever occur to you that the Persona that you have now, might be an EVEN BETTER value if all these protectionist tax structurs were removed??

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Dear 4G63T DSM
yup , i admit you are totally right. but not in this 2 or 3 year, Kawan, i am in the middle to buy a car (now using kapcai), and right now persona to me value for my money, i want to wait that BETTER value time to come , but should i ???
Still if i wait next 2 or 3 years, people will say , “next 2 or 3 year will be MUCH MUCH better maa!!” then endup with i keep using kapcai , my decision is for now. just want to survive cruel world. sorry

swift and cooper is in d same cls jz cooper is in premium class and swift not…so same like if u compare d bmw 1 series and ford focus..still in d same cls jz 1 er is premium…

i dun like jazz even a new jazz looks boring…for dis cls…swift and grande punto still b at the top of my list…

swift and cooper is in a completely different class… how to compare???

wakakaz….

Suzuki are reknown for it SJ Jeep(now Jimny), Swift, Vitara(aka Escudo) and Wagon-R! Who says Suzuki can’t make good cars!

the swift always wins me over with its looks. So does the cooper. lets see if the fiat500 does or not.

jazz not so attractive though would be good if that idsi engine was in the swift.

For a single guy, or a young couple who dont need a big boot, this car makes alot of sense, especially if you love driving.

As for the Swift Sport, well, I’d pick it over the Yaris and Jazz any day! cannot compare at all!!

change ur engine oil urself and we will call u a car lover …

i dont care if goverment want give high tax to any car what so ever…. i want to be kaya i give bribe to pollitician… only person who stress with this country will kutuk P1
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Wow..that must be single most obnoxious and mindless comment I will probably read today. What a sorry state the country is in now.

Eh Friend, does it ever occur to you that the Persona that you have now, might be an EVEN BETTER value if all these protectionist tax structurs were removed??

Nice car though. Had a chance to drive the CBU unit around a few hard bends. Underpowered with the auto though. Its a well built small car….actualy its an amazingly built small car if you can see what sort of market this thing is priced abroad.

Swift vs the Cooper? no contest, Swift all the way. To the poster that said the Cooper depreciates less, you might want to check those figures again. Perhaps it depreciates about the same % wise, but coming in over 2x the Swift’s price, …well..you get the picture.

If the swift 1.3 is offered for 40-50k, it will sell like hotcakes. I would buy one. Not likely though. Its too dangerously close to Proton and Perodua’s playground.

To the bloke that said that Suzuki is not car company? They have been one of the very few auto companies that has been profitable since day one. Despite all the big players loosing money, little Suzuki has been doing just fine. They have been building small cars since the 1930s, and now produces about 1mill cars per year.

October 4, 2007 @ 9:10 pm

Swift vs. Cooper?
U must be crazy. Nothing can be compare in all aspect, especially the pricing. I earn RM 3 k per month. Swift is in my budget, never even dream of buying cooper with my mere salary.

Suzuki can’t built car?
Again, u must be crazy. Suzuki is a well respected compact car builder in Japan.
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Get the Swift, it is in everyway a better car albeit not as funky.

of course it wont topple the mini from its place. but in the sport form, it is mentioned in the same breath as the baseline mini in performance and appeal. no other car can achieve this on these two fronts. and considering its about 25k rm cheaper in a free market than the mini. professional drivers actually rate it above the baseline mini in performance.

the ford festiva sport beats both in performance but doesnt look as cute. given this is a predominantly female drivers cars which cuteness plays a big part. and the entry fee is less 30k rm if u opt for the swift base version as a cheap runabout.