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“….these should be included as compulsory the same as seat belt,third brake lights..etc..”
Oh, you forgot to add: Feeding the cronies crooks also a mandatory in our country.

“..Consumers already paid prohitive tax under NAP, many easily exceed RM 10K , why we need to save this few K to endenger our life?..”
Gladly to repeat: That few K taken to feed the cronies crooks, which also a mandatory in our country.

October 24, 2007 @ 10:52 pm

I still maintain safety features shall be compulsory!
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i agree with bigfish.but it will take time to happen.maybe few years more.our local car producer and assembler also should implement more safety feature.proton and perodua share some vendor if i not mistaken.even maybe each car need different type of safety features,why not they assign one vendor to produce the abs system and airbag for their.if they do that,they easily can reach economy of scale and make price per each much cheaper.so their car price not go high too much..this just my opinion.

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October 24, 2007 @ 5:34 pm

all those safety features such as airbags and ABSs does come as standard… to do that, u just need to put ur hand over the price list for both the Basic and Mid line model… isnt there only the High line on the list right now? why do ppl argue so much about making all the safety features standard? yes, it saves lives, but not everyone is so fortunate to be able to fork out 3 or 4k extra, and need to save as much as they can. so why not create a more basic model to cater ppl with lower income?

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i agree with you..there are no free thing in the world.you pay what you get..if the abs and airbag become standard,the price of the car also get higher..put after that will be some people will bising because the price of the car goes up.they want safer car but they want it cheaper also.there are no such things exist..better we back to the topic..peace everybody

Bigfish/Joeooi has quoted that drivearabia website many times. I have yet to find another source with similar pricing. As far as i know, proton cars are generally more expensive overseas. Perhaps the arab country has no road tax, no GST, and no insurance requirements (or those costs are not included in the prices quoted by the website).

RM36k is the official price (pre-tax, non-inclusive of insurance, non-otr) of the Gen2 baseline variant in malaysia according to Proton Edar.
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You don’t get my point. My argument is to justify whether the safety features like ABS, EBD, airbag, etc is costly and shall be mandatory or “optional accessories”: -

1. I am not argue with you until the cow come home for comparing OTR price for car.

2. I am put forward the message that since the selling price for UAE is so low with all that safety features. The argument for this safety features is costly to provide in our market is not justified. Whether OTR, Off road, show room price, harga warta by G, MRSP, Invoice price, etc that may include insurance, road tax, ID/ED/ST, etc. All this nonsense cost is not form part of cost to produce a car by Proton, but the cost have to be paid by consumer to acquire such car to be on the road.

The above selling price by Proton strongly show and proof that ABS, EBD or airbag is not costly in relation to production cost per unit. It shall be mandatory for safety reason, rather than treat it as “luxury optional accessories” just like leather seat, MP3 player, etc.

Do you get the point, Mr. “Intelligent from Down South” studying in Ivory Tower with high IQ level.

This topic is bout Proton BLM, den become a discussion of car safety equipments, hehe..

So this seems like extra RM 3k to get ABS, EBD, one more airbag, and remote trunk! Tat doesnt seem so expensive, does it?
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I agree. Perhaps the govt could help by making those features considered accessories and thus not be subjected to the same tax as cars. But that would create the problem of inefficiency as factory installed systems are cheaper and more reliable.

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October 24, 2007 @ 12:12 am
CONCLUSIONS – whether the price is “Showroom price” – Off road or OTR price, the fact is OTR price with road tax and insurance is not part of car manufacturer pricing, thus not contribute to the profit level of Proton. So what the hack to argue safety features like ABS, EBD or airbag is costly since they can equipt all these features for export market (Middle East), yet selling at ridiculously low price. Perhaps “below cost” if refer to blind defender who said Gen-2 cost is RM 36K (USD 10K).
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This has been debated to death already.

Bigfish/Joeooi has quoted that drivearabia website many times. I have yet to find another source with similar pricing. As far as i know, proton cars are generally more expensive overseas. Perhaps the arab country has no road tax, no GST, and no insurance requirements (or those costs are not included in the prices quoted by the website).

RM36k is the official price (pre-tax, non-inclusive of insurance, non-otr) of the Gen2 baseline variant in malaysia according to Proton Edar.

More information here: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=510116&hl=NAP+myths

Also note, the Savvy Lite is only RM28k. But due to tax it is over RM30k. If the BLM really is based on the savvy, they should be able to bring the price under RM30k… OFF road price that is. Insurance and normal taxes still apply.

==dear i thought the car were for off road. hahaha….. what off road price or on the road price? u and i also don’t know yet because the car not yet on sale.

==rm600 for a summon was cheaper than in uk. i got it about rm900 in uk.

But if we look at ABS or EBD for car safety feature, every day you drive it, then you alreday apply this feature in driving. Of course airbag only function in the event of crash. Think about safe driving and safe car as well!

Why F1 driver can drive easily up to 300 km/h yet nobody complaint they are reckless driver?

Why Mat Rempit with kap-cai at most go to 120 km/h already perceived by society and authority as road menace?

The answer to these is F1 tract is build for top speed, wide enough for them to corner safely, guar rail, sand bag, etc to minimize impact in the event of accident. Even chances for driver to survive involve in major crash is very high with special safety cloth, helmet, etc. Just think about it, safety is one of th emost important thing for design engineer in any field, be it building, car, bridges, etc. The only constraint to this is budget, and sometime commercial product like car, biz man or cronies make “commerical decision” to maximize profits at the expanse of safety! That is sad truth in our auto sector.

So this seems like extra RM 3k to get ABS, EBD, one more airbag, and remote trunk! Tat doesnt seem so expensive, does it?

Im juz guessing stuff, so if im wrong pls dun flame me…hehe
Drive safe, think of ur loved ones, and the ones who loves u