Comments on: Karamjit Motorsports wins Malaysian Rally Championship

By: motorsports hell

motorsports hell — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:50:44 +0000

well.. its all politics . its just u x see it underneath all e actions. e industry in malaysia is small, sponsorship is tough, politics in e country muc well said the G's apata pulak in e industry. well. its all comes back to politics n who's gt stronger network..well.. i myself gt backstab frm ppl in e industry. well politics r everywhere..ada rezeki ada la. God knows better.

Hope e indutry will grow t a greater heights..

cheers

By: kohbk

kohbk — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 05:14:31 +0000

pity karamjit, proven champion and not getting the sponsorship maybe he should just go to europe and try his luck there.

By: ah liew

ah liew — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:44:59 +0000

When I saw the picture of the Evo 8 that Karamjit drove, i thought it’s another Proton Wira kena potong & fitted with the head of an Evo 8. hee! hee! Few years back, when Proton was still sponsoring Karamjit, Proton always Bullsh*t that they win the race but actually it was an Evo 2 or Evo 3. I can’t remember what did he drove back then…

By: akshen_kamen

akshen_kamen — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:24:35 +0000

of course,the bigger sport even become,more sponsor they get.they will not regret if they sponsor in the big amount because their brand will advertise worldwide for example,airasia for manchester united and petronas in formula 1.compare if they want to advertise by their self in other country.

By: 90125

90125 — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:55:45 +0000

Sponsorship is also a way of advertising, so less popular events means less sponsors…still remember when tobacco co. were no.1 sponsors in sports and entertainment

By: bestofamat

bestofamat — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 05:41:21 +0000

If you want to support karamjit and want to know his latest news, just go to http://www.teamtempler.com/

He now under Team Templer’s management, who also own the mitsubishi evo8 car.

By: mitlanevo

mitlanevo — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:06:39 +0000

job well done!!!!

By: aesthari

aesthari — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:14:13 +0000

Kudos to Karamjit and his partner! LOL, not much of a comment really, but it’s good to see Karamjit back on track, and with a decent car, dammit, not some ciplak PERT!

By: BigFish

BigFish — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:24:44 +0000

gonggok said,
November 6, 2007 @ 12:38 pm

Itâ€™s hard to get sponsorship for rallying and for good reasonâ€¦

Itâ€™s a very-very-very low exposure sort of motorracing. Not on TV and vey little crowds – if any willing to go in to the palm-oil estates.

A1 is televised all round the world and people actually go to see it.
—————-
All back to perceive commercial value of the events – especially viewerships!

By: BigFish

BigFish — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:23:15 +0000

Ya gonggok, taken morning meds already, just repeating the 1st comment!

By: gonggok

gonggok — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:59:03 +0000

Dude Bigfish…

Didn’t you just post the whole Kampung Rally thing earlier in the thread? Whats your problem? Haven’t taken your morning meds or something?

Looking at it he had some good competition…it’s not like the rest of the field were driving kancils…

By: BigFish

BigFish — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:49:47 +0000

This is a jaguh kampong estate rally!

By: azrai

azrai — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:48:04 +0000

Dear BanyakMasukWorkshop,
I know you pour a lot of money to the workshop right? Hmm. What I mean not only in A1, but the previous Minardi involvement. You know the result of this sponsorship. We’ve been no where. The KBS pour a lot of money too. When it came to necessity, our government especially Shafie Tak Afdal will say government cannot subsidise all thing. But what the heck on this alot of wastage just to get attention and name? Think again. We pay the tax. Even the corporate gain from our spending. We work for the money. We actually change our time, energy into salary=RM.

By: topmanspeed

topmanspeed — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 07:59:51 +0000

Re comments on Evo8 vs. Proton & the other cars in the rally, and that it is not much of a fight for Karam.

It is not as straight forward as the result list may look like. The second guy in the “Proton PERT” is NOT driving a Proton. He is driving an Evo6 which, I understand, is tuned to Class “A” specs. Karam’s Evo8 is class “N”. Thus the so-callled “Proton” actually has more horses (I understand >300bhp) vs. Karam’s aprox. 280-290bhp.

Also, the “MyVi”s are actually 4-wheel drive turbocharged ones… nothing like what you find in the regular showrooms… Power to Weight ratio wise, it is likely to be better than Karam’s Evo8.

Yes, Karam may have won “easily” over the competition, but in my opinion it is not due to technical superiority…

By: 90125

90125 — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:53:11 +0000

Do we pay tickets to watch this rally in estates?..I don’t much about rally,..or how many people are willing to go to this estates to watch this championship?hey, Karamjit won that means he is good..congrats…

By: gonggok

gonggok — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:38:48 +0000

It’s hard to get sponsorship for rallying and for good reason…

It’s a very-very-very low exposure sort of motorracing. Not on TV and vey little crowds – if any willing to go in to the palm-oil estates.

A1 is televised all round the world and people actually go to see it.

By: nanashisan

nanashisan — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:34:34 +0000

banyakmasukworkshop, thanks for clarifying it for me.

By: szw

szw — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:21:11 +0000

weird…

By: BanyakMasukWorkshop

BanyakMasukWorkshop — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:06:20 +0000

azrai, where have you been all this time? do you even actually know what you’re talking about.??

“Why on earth they pour a lot of money on Alex Yoong but we already know the result right. Hmmmâ€¦.”

a1 team malaysia, 1st season 5th overall in championship out of 22 countries. 2nd season, 6th overall in championship out of 22 countries.
beating many other large motorsports countries like USA and Japan,

and when you say “they pour a lot of money ” , do you even know who “they” is?

By: BanyakMasukWorkshop

BanyakMasukWorkshop — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:59:31 +0000

nananishan,

i find your comments very misinformed.

“this article mentioned that flying singh is not under proton anymore. im glad that he with other sponsors. this clear my perception about why proton n petronas not sponsoring him these days.
anyway, im glad heâ€™s not with them any more since that will limit the sponsors to sponsor him..”

motorsports sponsorship is like any business. Presence of a sponsor is directly linked to the contribution by that sponsor. Do you think that karam does not want sponsorship from petronas and proton? over the years, those 2 companies have sponsored him millions and millions of ringgit and helped him achieve his world production class championship win. It is better to have 1 or 2 large sponsors as apposed to 10 small sponsors. But unfortunately for Karam, he has to take whatever he can get today to continue racing. The very fact that he is only racing in Malaysia currently tell us that the sponsorship he is getting today is probably very small money.

sponsorships are a business decision, and for whatever reasons they each have, proton and petronas today have chosen not to be in rallying.

Sadly, Malaysian rallying today is in a poor state, with very little sponsorship money to go around for everyone. Even the organisers are tight with money. The results speak for themselves. Its obvious that 2nd and 3rd place were never in the position to challenge Karam in his EVO.

By: moha774

moha774 — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:00:20 +0000

Good for him… I think even with his old car (that he sold to the Indonesian) it will be good enough to win the championship…. about Myvi and Viva… Its just the shell that is of Perodua… powertrain and engine is from Daihatsu same goes for PERT car…. a rebadged Mitsu… the only local is Satria Neo…

By: efikz_1011

efikz_1011 — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:29:59 +0000

Sponsorship is all about politics, corporate company only sponsor sports of G’s interest only..Did you see how “KJ” bring big sponsors (money) to Malaysian football nowadays.Its all about politics i tell you.huh..

By: azrai

azrai — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:27:50 +0000

Pity Malaysian corporate. karamjit has the talent and already shows his potential. Why on earth they pour a lot of money on Alex Yoong but we already know the result right. Hmmm….

By: akshen_kamen

akshen_kamen — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:27:18 +0000

ooo..thank LittleFire85..if perodua do that,is good for them.they now not just rebadging the car but modified it..but for the rally,i think this is not fair result because some of the car are in different class.

By: LittleFire85

LittleFire85 — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:04:01 +0000

I am not sure, but i think the myvito is totally unique model… It has 4WD like Boon X4 but have a 1.3L DVVT turbo, which is the same wif YRV turbo. U have to ask those guys how to do it, maybe Perodua really makes special orders? Anyways this is about karamjit winning, cheers!

By: raybrig85

raybrig85 — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:19:08 +0000

congrats to karamjit…btw…sorry out of topic…

guyz…check dis out

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9071105.006/nissan-gt-r-gt500-first-outing

i think u all will like dis…

By: cetakbaju

cetakbaju — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:44:43 +0000

thumbs up flying singh

By: nanashisan

nanashisan — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:39:14 +0000

icccccc,
this article mentioned that flying singh is not under proton anymore. im glad that he with other sponsors. this clear my perception about why proton n petronas not sponsoring him these days.
anyway, im glad he’s not with them any more since that will limit the sponsors to sponsor him..
btw, congrats to mr karamjit singh and his team. i wish many sponsors will sponsor him in the future.

By: kingglim

kingglim — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:36:32 +0000

Wu ha ha, Kampung Lancer is definitely no fight vs real Lancer…Kampung Lancer eats dusts saja lah!!

By: akshen_kamen

akshen_kamen — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:12:15 +0000

LittleFire85,are they just install turbo into the current myvi engine?or they swap the engine with other model?