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	<title>Comments on: Proton-VW deal could be signed in 2 weeks?</title>
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		<title>By: szw</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-123984</link>
		<dc:creator>szw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when ?</p>
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		<title>By: lembagatanah</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-123686</link>
		<dc:creator>lembagatanah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if this is true, so good we might have a new perdana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if this is true, so good we might have a new perdana</p>
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		<title>By: digiman</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-123336</link>
		<dc:creator>digiman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dum de dum... (twidling thumb)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dum de dum&#8230; (twidling thumb)</p>
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		<title>By: bmpower</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-123308</link>
		<dc:creator>bmpower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea.. after this sell petronas share to.. Opss.. petronas still profitable, when it had problem later.. just sell it too lah.. LIKE THAT!
Tnb also can sell share. fast money.. 

Overall.. i don&#039;t think all of this good move.. Losing GLC company, just sell the share in the name of investor inject money.. 

Do anyone here know, there&#039;s 1 malay silent tychoon in VolksWagen AG. ( 1 biz friend told me).. But he remains mystery.. he got at least 10% share VW worldwide!.. I still searching the detail on that (because i hard to belive if nothing proven) .. some said rumours.. but it not so rumours..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea.. after this sell petronas share to.. Opss.. petronas still profitable, when it had problem later.. just sell it too lah.. LIKE THAT!<br />
Tnb also can sell share. fast money.. </p>
<p>Overall.. i don&#8217;t think all of this good move.. Losing GLC company, just sell the share in the name of investor inject money.. </p>
<p>Do anyone here know, there&#8217;s 1 malay silent tychoon in VolksWagen AG. ( 1 biz friend told me).. But he remains mystery.. he got at least 10% share VW worldwide!.. I still searching the detail on that (because i hard to belive if nothing proven) .. some said rumours.. but it not so rumours..</p>
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		<title>By: Xoomie</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-123127</link>
		<dc:creator>Xoomie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s just MOU laa friends...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just MOU laa friends&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: efikz_1011</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-123107</link>
		<dc:creator>efikz_1011</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 

If the article above is true, the structure will be more like a CAPITAL VENTURE  structure. This happened when 20% equity shares will be hold by VW and their entitled to have the expert management team to organise the new company whereelse 80% of shares equity will be hold by GLC. The GLC will play a part in this new company by  lending big capital for the development of new company.

The effect of this structure, 

The good news is that GLC company will gain big amount of dividen from the new company if this company success with massive profit and they will also gain repayment of lending the capital plus high interest.

The bad news is that the GLC company will gain nothing in term of technolgy knowledge.

This will happen once a gain like our MOU in the past with Mitsubishi where we learn nothing about engine. They only teach us how to make that &#039;tin milo&#039; body.

As u all can see, the history will repeat it self.

Correct me if im wrong 

Adios</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>If the article above is true, the structure will be more like a CAPITAL VENTURE  structure. This happened when 20% equity shares will be hold by VW and their entitled to have the expert management team to organise the new company whereelse 80% of shares equity will be hold by GLC. The GLC will play a part in this new company by  lending big capital for the development of new company.</p>
<p>The effect of this structure, </p>
<p>The good news is that GLC company will gain big amount of dividen from the new company if this company success with massive profit and they will also gain repayment of lending the capital plus high interest.</p>
<p>The bad news is that the GLC company will gain nothing in term of technolgy knowledge.</p>
<p>This will happen once a gain like our MOU in the past with Mitsubishi where we learn nothing about engine. They only teach us how to make that &#8216;tin milo&#8217; body.</p>
<p>As u all can see, the history will repeat it self.</p>
<p>Correct me if im wrong </p>
<p>Adios</p>
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		<title>By: NoToLowQuality</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-122484</link>
		<dc:creator>NoToLowQuality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BanyakMasukWorkshop
&quot;regardless of what happens in the near future, i think proton is already making huge improvements to its businessâ€¦ cars are selling, cost cutting is in place, exports are growing.. seems like theyâ€™re on the right track. i find it strange that no one here who posted seemed to notice or taken into account anything thats been happening in the last 6-7 months. &quot;

good to know that. In the near future, we can then abolish this high tax structure and let every car company compete is a fair manner. Then the real proton news like &quot;cars are selling, cost cutting is in place, exports are growing.. seems like theyâ€™re on the right track&quot; is really can be on that track or not. 

Even if proton success again as number one local car and being protected by all the tax, then i can say that proton don even improve a single bit. Only when no more high tax, and proton can still sell its car locally, then is it genuine 100 % success. therefore, proton will always be look down by our generation and generation to come... cause they are protected... everyone knows it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BanyakMasukWorkshop<br />
&#8220;regardless of what happens in the near future, i think proton is already making huge improvements to its businessâ€¦ cars are selling, cost cutting is in place, exports are growing.. seems like theyâ€™re on the right track. i find it strange that no one here who posted seemed to notice or taken into account anything thats been happening in the last 6-7 months. &#8221;</p>
<p>good to know that. In the near future, we can then abolish this high tax structure and let every car company compete is a fair manner. Then the real proton news like &#8220;cars are selling, cost cutting is in place, exports are growing.. seems like theyâ€™re on the right track&#8221; is really can be on that track or not. </p>
<p>Even if proton success again as number one local car and being protected by all the tax, then i can say that proton don even improve a single bit. Only when no more high tax, and proton can still sell its car locally, then is it genuine 100 % success. therefore, proton will always be look down by our generation and generation to come&#8230; cause they are protected&#8230; everyone knows it.</p>
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		<title>By: edmund_lee83</title>
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		<dc:creator>edmund_lee83</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proton should be close lah!! Watse money company.. all shit design , if no more Proton we can drive Toyota , Honda even BMW cheaper than now. Why we must suffer to drive national car.haha~~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proton should be close lah!! Watse money company.. all shit design , if no more Proton we can drive Toyota , Honda even BMW cheaper than now. Why we must suffer to drive national car.haha~~</p>
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		<title>By: topgunthang</title>
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		<dc:creator>topgunthang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BanyakMasukWorkshop

they only release news that they want you to hear. proton is doing terribly elsewhere in the world. if proton can export to some country. then u can be sure toyota, daewoo and some china car company can do the same 50-100 times over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BanyakMasukWorkshop</p>
<p>they only release news that they want you to hear. proton is doing terribly elsewhere in the world. if proton can export to some country. then u can be sure toyota, daewoo and some china car company can do the same 50-100 times over.</p>
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		<title>By: intermilan</title>
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		<dc:creator>intermilan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 05:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another transformation to change the sole beneficiary of an entity called proton from ex-PM to current PM cronies.
Yawn...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another transformation to change the sole beneficiary of an entity called proton from ex-PM to current PM cronies.<br />
Yawn&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: punisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>punisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 03:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proton Passat aka ..Volkswagen 4 under 100k...y not..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proton Passat aka ..Volkswagen 4 under 100k&#8230;y not..</p>
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		<title>By: erichigc</title>
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		<dc:creator>erichigc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dun trust any one, either from Proton or Petronas. What we need is a good and efficient management team together with an Excellent CEO. At least he has 50 percent quality of Tony Fernandez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dun trust any one, either from Proton or Petronas. What we need is a good and efficient management team together with an Excellent CEO. At least he has 50 percent quality of Tony Fernandez.</p>
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		<title>By: scorpicore</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-122090</link>
		<dc:creator>scorpicore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let say the news is true, then this do make sense. Firstly VW does want to have management control in P1-VW partnership, secondary, to give VW to have full control of P1 will make Malaysia loses her pride! So the above idea of forming new company is still the best solution to get german car technology to be acquired by P1 and to give VW to expand their sales in malaysia, and to use malaysia as a geteway to sell their cars in SEA. However, will the German really keen to help our P1 team to acquire latest tech in car industry still remain unknown. It may end-up like P1-mitsu where only aging tech been offered. But what we can see now the partnership may benefit VW more with the management control because: 1. They can expand their sales in malaysia (as malaysian car minus taxes) and to this region, 2. They can have access to car manufacturing fascilities without much investment in building new plant, 3. They may have access or facilities of the technology owned by LOTUS. Benefit to P1 is still remain unknown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let say the news is true, then this do make sense. Firstly VW does want to have management control in P1-VW partnership, secondary, to give VW to have full control of P1 will make Malaysia loses her pride! So the above idea of forming new company is still the best solution to get german car technology to be acquired by P1 and to give VW to expand their sales in malaysia, and to use malaysia as a geteway to sell their cars in SEA. However, will the German really keen to help our P1 team to acquire latest tech in car industry still remain unknown. It may end-up like P1-mitsu where only aging tech been offered. But what we can see now the partnership may benefit VW more with the management control because: 1. They can expand their sales in malaysia (as malaysian car minus taxes) and to this region, 2. They can have access to car manufacturing fascilities without much investment in building new plant, 3. They may have access or facilities of the technology owned by LOTUS. Benefit to P1 is still remain unknown.</p>
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		<title>By: aesthari</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-122083</link>
		<dc:creator>aesthari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weird, this, 20% share and management control, pretty unconventional. Would be interesting to see how this works out, if it&#039;ll ever happen at all. Rumours of agreement hasbeen around for ages only to be followed up with delays and postponements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weird, this, 20% share and management control, pretty unconventional. Would be interesting to see how this works out, if it&#8217;ll ever happen at all. Rumours of agreement hasbeen around for ages only to be followed up with delays and postponements.</p>
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		<title>By: azrai</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-121997</link>
		<dc:creator>azrai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever. It seem like Synergy Drive move by estbalsihing a new company to swallow the 3 big plantation company. Is it under ECM Libra advisory a.k.a. Khairy Jamaludin? Pak Lah Pak Lah. For Sime Derby, I don&#039;t think it will holding the remaining shares. Synergy Drive already swallow it. I don&#039;t think continental parts can be competitively price like their Japan counterpart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever. It seem like Synergy Drive move by estbalsihing a new company to swallow the 3 big plantation company. Is it under ECM Libra advisory a.k.a. Khairy Jamaludin? Pak Lah Pak Lah. For Sime Derby, I don&#8217;t think it will holding the remaining shares. Synergy Drive already swallow it. I don&#8217;t think continental parts can be competitively price like their Japan counterpart.</p>
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		<title>By: ob8</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-121962</link>
		<dc:creator>ob8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah kick cronies out. cheap vw cars is what im interested in. then no protection of local cars. then all cars is cheaper. then all people will be happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah kick cronies out. cheap vw cars is what im interested in. then no protection of local cars. then all cars is cheaper. then all people will be happy.</p>
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		<title>By: BanyakMasukWorkshop</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-121955</link>
		<dc:creator>BanyakMasukWorkshop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>liquidated proton? what sort of comment is that? it will never happen.

regardless of what happens in the near future, i think proton is already making huge improvements to its business... cars are selling, cost cutting is in place, exports are growing.. seems like they&#039;re on the right track.  i find it strange that no one here who posted seemed to notice or taken into account  anything thats been happening in the last 6-7 months.  

To me, this VW mou if it works out, should only help to improve proton further, and hopefully help it achieve its original dream of being a world class manufacturer.

since malaysia and malaysians are stuck with proton whether we like it or not, i&#039;m all for seeing a better proton for the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>liquidated proton? what sort of comment is that? it will never happen.</p>
<p>regardless of what happens in the near future, i think proton is already making huge improvements to its business&#8230; cars are selling, cost cutting is in place, exports are growing.. seems like they&#8217;re on the right track.  i find it strange that no one here who posted seemed to notice or taken into account  anything thats been happening in the last 6-7 months.  </p>
<p>To me, this VW mou if it works out, should only help to improve proton further, and hopefully help it achieve its original dream of being a world class manufacturer.</p>
<p>since malaysia and malaysians are stuck with proton whether we like it or not, i&#8217;m all for seeing a better proton for the future.</p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-121909</link>
		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it. Or really I don&#039;t know how Khazanah Nasional managed to do it.

We give you 20% of company, but you are the boss. So 80% we keep. You make all decisions. Untung we also get money, you get less, but you steer company...

Imagine what the board meeting would be like. if disagree, 20% cannot go over 80%</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it. Or really I don&#8217;t know how Khazanah Nasional managed to do it.</p>
<p>We give you 20% of company, but you are the boss. So 80% we keep. You make all decisions. Untung we also get money, you get less, but you steer company&#8230;</p>
<p>Imagine what the board meeting would be like. if disagree, 20% cannot go over 80%</p>
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		<title>By: topgunthang</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-121902</link>
		<dc:creator>topgunthang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so be it. no hope for malaysia already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so be it. no hope for malaysia already.</p>
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		<title>By: armandd</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-121898</link>
		<dc:creator>armandd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm, VW passat for perdana replacement? i think if the rumour is true then they&#039;ll probably use the previous generation passat like this one.. 

http://deutschstahl.com/cpg133/albums/userpics/10185/normal_side_profile.jpg

not bad. =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm, VW passat for perdana replacement? i think if the rumour is true then they&#8217;ll probably use the previous generation passat like this one.. </p>
<p><a href="http://deutschstahl.com/cpg133/albums/userpics/10185/normal_side_profile.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://deutschstahl.com/cpg133/albums/userpics/10185/normal_side_profile.jpg</a></p>
<p>not bad. =)</p>
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		<title>By: acbc</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-121830</link>
		<dc:creator>acbc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn... more rumours...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn&#8230; more rumours&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BigFish</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-121829</link>
		<dc:creator>BigFish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The above news if MD SZ denied have any knowledge, is likely another round of &quot;goreng share&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The above news if MD SZ denied have any knowledge, is likely another round of &#8220;goreng share&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: BigFish</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-121828</link>
		<dc:creator>BigFish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The GLCs is the &quot;bad syndrome&quot; inherited from 1980s as a result of the &quot;nationalization&quot; of the heavy industry. It is an outdated practice (at least it was introduced by Margaret Thatcher) to mix biz and politics as both are always mutually exclusive!

There are feasible solution for Proton if G divest from P1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GLCs is the &#8220;bad syndrome&#8221; inherited from 1980s as a result of the &#8220;nationalization&#8221; of the heavy industry. It is an outdated practice (at least it was introduced by Margaret Thatcher) to mix biz and politics as both are always mutually exclusive!</p>
<p>There are feasible solution for Proton if G divest from P1.</p>
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		<title>By: akshen_kamen</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-121789</link>
		<dc:creator>akshen_kamen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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auctioncenter2u said,

November 9, 2007 @ 7:24 pm

20% ONLY arr? How to improve PROTON to be better?
Could be same as Mitsu case, Not much changes. Donâ€™t put HIGH Hope on it!
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If VW gain control,proton can improve but if the G still control,we cannot see proton will improve.too much problem with our G right now.</description>
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auctioncenter2u said,</p>
<p>November 9, 2007 @ 7:24 pm</p>
<p>20% ONLY arr? How to improve PROTON to be better?<br />
Could be same as Mitsu case, Not much changes. Donâ€™t put HIGH Hope on it!<br />
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<p>If VW gain control,proton can improve but if the G still control,we cannot see proton will improve.too much problem with our G right now.</p>
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		<title>By: auctioncenter2u</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-121768</link>
		<dc:creator>auctioncenter2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>20% ONLY arr? How to improve PROTON to be better?
Could be same as Mitsu case, Not much changes. Don&#039;t put HIGH Hope on it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20% ONLY arr? How to improve PROTON to be better?<br />
Could be same as Mitsu case, Not much changes. Don&#8217;t put HIGH Hope on it!</p>
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		<title>By: waimak</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-121758</link>
		<dc:creator>waimak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it is about doing business, forget about equity ownership and controlling shares first. If it&#039;s about who&#039;s controlling who, then they all should fight, forever.

Personally, I feel that business cannot mix with govenrment/ politics, no matter what. But then again, a GLC belongs to the government no matter how much equity holding is. Too bad.

I just hope that some people learn the past mistakes and history doesnt repeat itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it is about doing business, forget about equity ownership and controlling shares first. If it&#8217;s about who&#8217;s controlling who, then they all should fight, forever.</p>
<p>Personally, I feel that business cannot mix with govenrment/ politics, no matter what. But then again, a GLC belongs to the government no matter how much equity holding is. Too bad.</p>
<p>I just hope that some people learn the past mistakes and history doesnt repeat itself.</p>
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		<title>By: seperlinky</title>
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		<dc:creator>seperlinky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as long as the G is not in command and do not mix business with politics, i think it should be fine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as long as the G is not in command and do not mix business with politics, i think it should be fine</p>
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		<title>By: ahmadmckk</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-121747</link>
		<dc:creator>ahmadmckk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the malaysian government will hold the majority of the shares of the new co., let&#039;s say 40 % because proton is a glc. petronas can be the one of the remaining shareholders as they have experience of automobile industry(mainly from F1). If they want to make it a public co. they can sell it to the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the malaysian government will hold the majority of the shares of the new co., let&#8217;s say 40 % because proton is a glc. petronas can be the one of the remaining shareholders as they have experience of automobile industry(mainly from F1). If they want to make it a public co. they can sell it to the public.</p>
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		<title>By: tHe CuLpRit</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-121746</link>
		<dc:creator>tHe CuLpRit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll believe the news if The Edge publishes it :-P</description>
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		<title>By: akshen_kamen</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/11/09/proton-vw-deal-could-be-signed-in-2-weeks/#comment-121745</link>
		<dc:creator>akshen_kamen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one more thing,VW need to kick out all the chronies vendor in proton if they want to improve the quality.if petronas allowed proton to use their engine,they also can gain something maybe in term of royalty and marketing..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one more thing,VW need to kick out all the chronies vendor in proton if they want to improve the quality.if petronas allowed proton to use their engine,they also can gain something maybe in term of royalty and marketing..</p>
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