Comments on: No timeframe for Proton turnaround?

By: JULIANLEE2

JULIANLEE2 — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:49:44 +0000

yea, boycott proton

By: PTAllTheBest

PTAllTheBest — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:44:17 +0000

no way i will let them do it again. no support from G. no money from tax payers. no time to play around. NO!!!
just go close shop…!!!

By: JULIANLEE2

JULIANLEE2 — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 04:10:13 +0000

get rid of this company

By: MicroKiller

MicroKiller — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:41:50 +0000

Even if there would be a time frame.. i dare to say that chances are .. proton cant meet the time frame then wht else… get rid of the ceo and bring in another one.. probably which would be someone thts rather familiar in their circle.. then another round of all this drama..

By: JULIANLEE2

JULIANLEE2 — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 02:52:06 +0000

china has roewe, “modern gentleman” MG, cheap audi’s(special AUDI A6L for china), cheap bmw’s(bmw 540 Li, special for china), volkswagen, GM, cadillac, geely, chery, the fake smart car etc etc, how can a stupid car from malaysia work there?

By: limsk

limsk — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 01:55:43 +0000

“no time frame turn around…” let me thinks about this hidden message here??

OK..that mean further reduction of oil subsidies and increase of road tolls, channel it for penalty to be paid another delay for AFTA and bail-out of Proton financial problems…when that happens again.. which can be possible if China Youngman partnership turn sour or bad sales happens we have yet to here know about the sale performance there.. Youngman core business has been on commercial vehicle so back to “square-one” business then..

By: BigFish

BigFish — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:45:38 +0000

aiyoâ€¦what is so difficult, time frame laâ€¦this laâ€¦that laâ€¦
no money to turn around, ask from â€˜daddyâ€™ again la, â€˜daddyâ€™ got money maâ€¦no worry!
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Sugar daddy – don’t forget G’s $$$ is from tax payer monies.

Sugar mummy – NAP – Import duty, Excise duty and Sales tax also sux poor rakyats.

Never in the “history of mankind” it is double-parallel one way ticket to put rakyat in such a very disadvantage position for the sake of acquiring commercial products.

By: BigFish

BigFish — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:41:11 +0000

or it really is one in a million of malaysians who actually does support proton.
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If this is true, then the chap must be “infected by severe-attention-deficit syndrome”.

By: BigFish

BigFish — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:21:51 +0000

“spread the love” – I love Milo but not Milo tin on the wheel! He, he, he, …………

By: topgunthang

topgunthang — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:17:23 +0000

i would like to think that 25 years have taught us that even if the deal with VW was successful….you wouldnt be seeing any golf r32,phaeton,touareg or gti on the cheap in malaysia. just think mitsu and lotus.

the proton supporters u see in forums is problably just a hired hand or an employee in the marketing dept dedicated to ’spread the love’ in the forums. He’s problably on holiday in switzerland or something.

or it really is one in a million of malaysians who actually does support proton. whatever the real situation is nobody knows….all i need to know is that i am not a supporter of proton.

By: vandenlye

vandenlye — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 13:29:45 +0000

aiyo…what is so difficult, time frame la…this la…that la…
no money to turn around, ask from ‘daddy’ again la, ‘daddy’ got money ma…no worry! already 20 years old, this is not the first time to ask money, dont be shy…even if ‘daddy’ known the ‘baby’ got no money to spend, ‘daddy’ will automatic give ’some’ money, no problem, dont even bother to ask…

By: JULIANLEE2

JULIANLEE2 — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 13:23:25 +0000

where is my golf r32?my phaeton?touareg?
they were all supposed to be here for cheap

By: szw

szw — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:51:26 +0000

we want VW…!!!

By: charles27

charles27 — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:33:00 +0000

told them already… quickly sell the P… get the money.. go build another factory, hire many many. See laa.. now share drop, already lost 18%… use your brain laa.

rejecting the vw .. sure means the P is not turnaround. Will you expect the share to remain or grow with that decision?

it will keep falling… soon later, share holder will piss off. Then G take out money buy those paper.. what a waste.

By: TheDuck

TheDuck — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:57:05 +0000

You are right! Where are they?

All ‘MALU’ to face the onslaught of MALAYSIANs getting together and bashing that pathetic company.

By: BigFish

BigFish — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:47:39 +0000

Optimistics vs. Pessimistics

Optimistics

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/11/23/business/19553026&sec=business

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/11/23/business/19554133&sec=business

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/11/23/business/19557465&sec=business

Pessimistics

http://www.malaysia-today.net/nuc2006/news2007.php?itemid=497

http://www.malaysia-today.net/nuc2006/news2007.php?itemid=483

http://www.malaysia-today.net/nuc2006/news2007.php?itemid=481

Both have their points but the weightage if apply Pareto principle (20:80)are: -

In term of weightage, the optimistics comprise at most 20% CHANCES for success but pessimistics comprise at least 80% of PROBABLE failure.

Pathetic, there are still ill informed and misinform blind protonian defender out there give “patriotic congratulatory” statements!

By: 2ST

2ST — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:50:37 +0000

Whre are all the protong cheerboys…?
Silent only?protong+gov+media+supporter=no brain what so ever! their knees also no functional brain.
Tq,

By: JULIANLEE2

JULIANLEE2 — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:47:53 +0000

it will be the same, kahzanah very shite company that is, fully sponsored by our “goverment”(the tax money we pay by working so hard in order to buy overselves a better car like a bmw 530i where we can buy a lamborghni gallardo in italy for the same value of money there)

By: sQew

sQew — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:22:34 +0000

Proton should become non GLC company if they want to market their car globally. I think this is mistake, Japan car also have collaboration with europe car comp to get their euro style design. Still dissapointment for me, wait until its collapse again then another CEO will be appointed the bla bla bla

By: in_put

in_put — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:19:26 +0000

The screws have been turning on P1 for quite some time, but I guess they don’t really feel the squeeze because they chose to ignore it. Perhaps if P1 shares drop quickly…much like Satria’s faulty automatic windows, then maybe some noise will be heard…

By: raybrig85

raybrig85 — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:50:47 +0000

TO MITLANEVO AND NMH,

some of u jz see at the scope of fast and handling but not overallâ€¦i do agree dat renault clio v6 is fast and handyâ€¦dun under estimate me bcoz i already drove dis car when i was in londonâ€¦it is my frenâ€™s with blue in colorâ€¦i know what im talking abtâ€¦yesâ€¦i agree it is fast and handyâ€¦but in term of practicallityâ€¦and compare to the other hot hatch available in dis current timeâ€¦4 me it is not affordable and uselessâ€¦it still gt a lot of car i can choose and buy rather than choose dis beauty.i can buy an affordable sport car and better than dis one with d same priceâ€¦.so guysâ€¦DUN TELL ME I DONT KNOW ABOUT THIS CAR AND HAVE TO REVIEW IT IN THE YOUTUBEâ€¦I ALREADY DROVE ITâ€¦â€¦it is jz my opinionâ€¦.and the other are not same like meâ€¦

By: raybrig85

raybrig85 — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:33:31 +0000

too many politics in proton…they will survive bcoz of their car is so so cheap and many ppl cant afford to buy other but if this still happen and happen…trust me…eventho they survive but they will never ever succeed…

By: topgunthang

topgunthang — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 04:56:08 +0000

they can go on and improve all they want. fact is proton will only sell in malaysia. all these deals with iran or china are just paper stats. which usually result in vapourware like the hydroxene technology. that professor even disgraced malaysia and our leader by proving himself to be a fake for the whole world to see.

already lost the automotive hub of south east asia to thailand and indo and these people still beleive proton has a chance. fact is there is no chance in hell they can improve themselves but just rely on a protected and desperate market (those that are forced to replace thier aging cars i.e saga and wiras) to produce a spike in profit in a long continous freefall market loss.

By: Gunners4Life

Gunners4Life — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 04:08:09 +0000

i akin this scenario to that of england’s….the aftermath: we mourned, we cuss, we cursed, which is a natural reaction but above all we show that we care…..there is only one way to go…go up!!

By: aj3377

aj3377 — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 03:01:04 +0000

Proton is a dead meat now…

By: xsaraloeb

xsaraloeb — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 01:58:11 +0000

What a dumb dumb scenario….we as consumer are the dummest !

By: neo2

neo2 — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 00:57:29 +0000

At least our share market is reacting against the talk-off efficiently, though might not positively. To certain extend, even economist do not entirely agree that share price reflects the actual profit per earnings (P/E ratio) of a PLC, but in P1 case, I guess the investors confidence is not that. This might attibuted to a few reasons, and from what I could summarize from a few financial analysts, most of them do not view optimistically of P1 long term and strategic sustainability and financial viability. Many would condemn the arrogance and even stupidity of P1 to standalone, and the most hideous part is it plans to goes along with the invincible protective umbrella granted by G. And worst of all, no timeframe is set up in order to compete in open free market. A typical mindset that is pledging the administration of our country. Or some would prefer to call it “Juara Kampung” (aka Village Champion). Please leave Nicole David or Datuk Michelle Yeoh out of out this nonsense. Globalisation is at doorstep, we are losing valuable talents to neigbouring countries (after we have spent so much on grooming the talents), emerging markets with even lower labour costs, such as Vietnam, China and even the brotherhood Indonesia are sweeping the world with its unbeatable cheap labour costs, and of course my favourite part, we are still relying mainly on oil (40% of our nation income comes from ever depleting oil reserve) when Dubai is already investing heavily in swifting its economic fundamentals. In short, P1 is like an expensive “nation pride” (bcoz we are paying the bills, aka forcing to buy cheap car, that merely brings you from point A to point B, no more than that, for the past 20 years, and for the next, let me see, may be forever, sadly) that sum up the operative of our country. So, you get the picture, right? Stop whinning around besides mocking, giving sarcastic comments and teasing, it’s not helping. If you are really not agreeable about it, then you should do sth about it. For instance, make sure you are registered voter and do not come and tell me, sorry, guys, you cannot vote bcoz you are not registered yet. Btw, I’m not representative or receiving any “you-know-what” from any parties, I’m doing this country a favour, otherwise we are no more better than Thailand, Philliphines or even Taiwan. Trust me on this.

By: BigFish

BigFish — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 00:04:50 +0000

Nex few days another chap from G may come out with another “exciting” statement.

By: shamel

shamel — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:08:15 +0000

I guess next year, Proton share must be below RM3 mark.

By: mystvearn

mystvearn — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:39:38 +0000

Wait another 3 years, then see if need partner or not. Rakyat will still have to suffer more.