Very very happy with my purchase.

Workmanship is EXCELLENT.

also for those stupid people.these comment are for proton's car not for arguing about the manager or about other country.u should suggest about the design and stuff etc.

I have to admit that I have little knowledge with Malaysian car but i'm willing to take risk as I love Gen2 CPS hi-line a lot.

I did considered Honda Jazz before but now I'm kinda sick of all Vivos and Jazz or City in town.

I want something different ! And Proton Gen2 CPS seem to be the answer.

Already booked a car. Looking forward to own it soon!

Thank you for penetrate into Thai market and give us more variety of choices.

“It’s his money. Let him buy what he wants, punk.”

if i were most of the guys at tomyamland i will go for honda or toyota.
only stupid idiot with stupid brain will buy this crap.

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I dunt know bout the majority of Thai ppl, but some that I know complained that they see too much of toyotas and hondas. i guess some ppl want a lil bit of fresh new things (which they can afford)

plus, im a bit discouraged too see so many toyotas converted to taxis there, including the new vios.

December 16, 2007 @ 11:34 am

Bigfoot,

The CPS and VIM have been long planned to be included in Campro.I would say if the torq really deliver what it is being stated then this GEN2 CPS is the record breaking in motoring world. All other cars as much as I know being naturally aspired that is without turbo, supercharged or FSI/TSI/fsti(VW engine system) have between 110hp-112hp with 145-148nM.(compare

But this Gen2 with 1,598cc is able to produce 125hp with 150nM. That is a record breaking! And that will be a reason for other world car makers to take asecond glimpse at Gen2 for what they have in their RnD.

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just want to get the facts right ab the record breaking thing. although not a valid comparison but i’ll said it anyway..

cheers!!

honda b16a (intro in 1992) NA engine SIR 11 type with lower dis at 1595 cm3, gained more hp= 170hp, and more torque 157Nm

or perhaps it sibling, introduced in later 1997, the B16b NA engine with dis at 1595 cm3, gained a slight increase in hp at 185hp and abit more max torque at 160Nm

atkop… not a JDM honda ek9 type R owner.

seens quite expensive for local product leh

If the engine is to be introduced in BLM that weight under one tone(gen2 is 1.2tonne/1200kg, compare to e.g Toyota Vios- 0.9tonne/900kg then it will be a rocket!) For comparison Toyota Altis 1.8cc have only 126hp.

The CPS and VIM have been long planned to be included in Campro.I would say if the torq really deliver what it is being stated then this GEN2 CPS is the record breaking in motoring world. All other cars as much as I know being naturally aspired that is without turbo, supercharged or FSI/TSI/fsti(VW engine system) have between 110hp-112hp with 145-148nM.(compare

But this Gen2 with 1,598cc is able to produce 125hp with 150nM. That is a record breaking! And that will be a reason for other world car makers to take asecond glimpse at Gen2 for what they have in their RnD.

I.M.H.O, big likely the join development between Proton Powertrain Department and Lotus Engineering Division have resulted in groundbreaking technology of CPS. It might derived from Variocam Plus technology too.

And one thing , that’s why Proton took a larger time to introduce CPS to the market because what they have achieve to this point in term of engine power and torque for 1600displacement is way beyond what other car makers could achieve.

Yes, this Gen 2 got CPS for valvetrain improvement and VIM (Variable inlet Manifold) designed in Essex UK and manufactured by Visteon in Port Elizabeth South Africa. You can feel the different of the performance in comparison with S4P. This engine is called S4CH. C for CPS and also VIM. If only this engine is introduced in the BLM which is less than a tonne in weight…fuhh..but then the mounting is the same, so yes you can put this engine in BLM

Fact from Bigfoot

Yes, this Gen 2 got CPS for valvetrain improvement and VIM (Variable inlet Manifold) design in Essex UK and manufactrured by Visteon in Port Elizabeth South Africa. You can feel the different of the performance in comparison with S4P. This engine is called S4CH. C for CPS and also VIM. If only this engine is introduced in the BLM which is less than a tonne in weight…fuhh..but then the mounting is the same, so yes you can put this engine is BLM Auto gearbox.

Fact from Bigfoot

Ezra….trade in your honda jazz and buy a proton in australia. show how patriotic u are,

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ooh.. ‘=.= almost missed this one.

Honestly, i was looking to get a savvy that was on AUD13999 OTR promotion (RM42k OTR for a basic manual version) to challenge the similarly priced getz….

but i couldnt find the #$%^&* dealer in the two weeks that i spent shopping. There are 30+ dealers in SYDNEY… but only something like 5 in melbourne for some reason… and none were really nearby to where I am staying.

ended up getting a jazz after doing a TCO estimate. Still had to spend about RM73k to get it after all OTR costs had been factored in.

One puzzling thing, although this Gen2 CPS has more powerful engine, it has woosier tyres than our CamTakPro Gen2. Actually the whole interior looks very woosy because it is of Persona.

just remeber satria gti or satria neo r3 is still with some clue of lotus car design with its lower bumper air intake, put side to side with elise exige or europa , there,,unmistakenably its look as its among kinship of lotus.

well engine up grade cps, its not to match with any of the type r as the honda might having a more aggresive second cam lobe, id rather say campro cps is at todays standard engine, higher 7000 red line is a bit of a bonus for being spirited ocassinally, anyway not to wrong to be put as ‘sport’ trim minimally, while other makes do the same way,

campro cps, the head looks slim as as normal dohc campro, could possibly
using variocam plus ,a very simple and space saving lift actuator is tappet itself,

its used by some porsche cars, and i ve heard porsche uses variocam plus under licence of Lotus,

well there will a higher performace model, campro cps is not the most lusty type r normally aspirated for being high performace, but theres always a trick, which we always heard,…and its a supercharger,

i bet, it will,

design in 60s
even the so called valvetronoc, A v-tech, valvematic, simillarly
actualluy being tought by GM as part af their project at that time,

the point is nothing is to be considered obselete as it is in use,

even 4 stroke internal combustion engine is around for more than 100 years,
and there are now on your car engine, now

“Fiat was the first auto manufacturer to patent a functional variable valve timing system which included variable lift. Developed by Giovanni Torazza in the late 1960s, the system used hydraulic pressure to vary the fulcrum of the cam followers (US Patent 3,641,988). The hydraulic pressure changed according to engine speed and intake pressure. The typical opening variation was 37%.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VVT

Anyway i don’t felt proud of what Proton gain for now. The problem Proton have to face is the quality problem and provide more better design car which can be sell all over the world n not only can success in boleh land… So, Proton have u got the guts to open the market without protection next year? Err… I dont think so..

The sport rim should change many years ago like the Waja. How many time Waja already change the rim design but until now only the first time Gen-2 change the design. Did this model cost Proton so much until need to save cost to develop new design?

Interior is much better looking that existing one, congratulation and hope that future design or model shall fit the buyers’ requirement because we are paying money for it. End user never want to feel shame on what they paying for.

me no proton fan neither basher.. just giving credit when deserved..
cheers~

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTEC

Making gearbox is more complicated.