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	<title>Comments on: Europestar RCR &#8211; rebadged GEN2 in China</title>
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		<title>By: From Borneo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-247843</link>
		<dc:creator>From Borneo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>after reading the critics and anti-critic. 
 
lots of modern countries rely on critics. its free information to improve rather than take out questianaires. let the silly critic stay at his corner but the anti-critic will always ruin development, hence transparency is designed as an advatage to be transparent to criticism in the first place. 
 
i have been to 5 star hotel where guest were complaining about things we cannot understand what is there to complain about. to be anti-critic is to argue against them. my friend went to a proton service center and had his car repaired. after the repair he argued there was a new annoying sound and the responce was &quot;mimang tu bunyi macam tu...&quot;. What the..... 
 
how about the famous window problem? it was the critics who fixed it right? the irony, how come such a large car manufacturer had to rely on kaki lima critic yet took many many years to respond????? insane isnt it???? and if there were no critic? would the window problem be fixed??? 
 
it is the anti-critic mentality which shows the direction we are heading. we need to be in competition....not in the bedroom </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>after reading the critics and anti-critic.</p>
<p>lots of modern countries rely on critics. its free information to improve rather than take out questianaires. let the silly critic stay at his corner but the anti-critic will always ruin development, hence transparency is designed as an advatage to be transparent to criticism in the first place.</p>
<p>i have been to 5 star hotel where guest were complaining about things we cannot understand what is there to complain about. to be anti-critic is to argue against them. my friend went to a proton service center and had his car repaired. after the repair he argued there was a new annoying sound and the responce was &quot;mimang tu bunyi macam tu&#8230;&quot;. What the&#8230;..</p>
<p>how about the famous window problem? it was the critics who fixed it right? the irony, how come such a large car manufacturer had to rely on kaki lima critic yet took many many years to respond????? insane isnt it???? and if there were no critic? would the window problem be fixed???</p>
<p>it is the anti-critic mentality which shows the direction we are heading. we need to be in competition&#8230;.not in the bedroom </p>
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		<title>By: From Borneo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-247841</link>
		<dc:creator>From Borneo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this is a perfect example of rebadging, they only changed the badges and suddenly it gains 2hp. the usual rebranding has a new grill, wheel, maybe headlight/tailight, bumper, spoiler and generally all the cost effective replacements. this one did not touch protons styling at all. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this is a perfect example of rebadging, they only changed the badges and suddenly it gains 2hp. the usual rebranding has a new grill, wheel, maybe headlight/tailight, bumper, spoiler and generally all the cost effective replacements. this one did not touch protons styling at all. </p>
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		<title>By: Paul Tan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-141639</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 09:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proton is not selling the GEN2 in China. Jinhua Youngman is. They are buying GEN2s to rebadge as Europestar in China, much like Perodua buys Daihatsu kits to badge as Perodua here. It is Jinhua Youngman&#039;s choice as to what to call it, not Proton&#039;s. Proton just supplies the cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proton is not selling the GEN2 in China. Jinhua Youngman is. They are buying GEN2s to rebadge as Europestar in China, much like Perodua buys Daihatsu kits to badge as Perodua here. It is Jinhua Youngman&#8217;s choice as to what to call it, not Proton&#8217;s. Proton just supplies the cars.</p>
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		<title>By: document</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-141635</link>
		<dc:creator>document</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 08:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dun understand why Proton want to rebadge to Europestar?? If Proton really want to rise up to be one of the world&#039;s leading car manufacturer, they should use &#039;Proton&#039; brand name instead of &#039;XXX star&#039;... its a Malaysian car not XXX car... Is &#039;Proton&#039; name is so embrassing to be introduced in China ??? If afraid chinese dun familiar with Proton, juz tell them is Lotus&#039;s brother... that is... Malaysia Boleh!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dun understand why Proton want to rebadge to Europestar?? If Proton really want to rise up to be one of the world&#8217;s leading car manufacturer, they should use &#8216;Proton&#8217; brand name instead of &#8216;XXX star&#8217;&#8230; its a Malaysian car not XXX car&#8230; Is &#8216;Proton&#8217; name is so embrassing to be introduced in China ??? If afraid chinese dun familiar with Proton, juz tell them is Lotus&#8217;s brother&#8230; that is&#8230; Malaysia Boleh!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ah liew</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-137723</link>
		<dc:creator>ah liew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey! does china guys know how to modify Gen 2 like us? malaysia bole apa? bole modify lor....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey! does china guys know how to modify Gen 2 like us? malaysia bole apa? bole modify lor&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ahmadmckk</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-136009</link>
		<dc:creator>ahmadmckk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if the europestar uses proton&#039;s campro engine, then the campro might have been underpowered before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if the europestar uses proton&#8217;s campro engine, then the campro might have been underpowered before.</p>
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		<title>By: BanyakMasukWorkshop</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135953</link>
		<dc:creator>BanyakMasukWorkshop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 07:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bmpower, lotus is still a legend. 

every single-seater race car today, from A1 to Formula 1 still uses the original pioneering design by lotus.  

a new lotus variant was just voted autocar uk&#039;s best handling car i believe 2 months ago. 

the upcoming nissan skyline GTR&#039;s handling is tuned by lotus.. many  more other cars on the road today are also tuned by lotus, but are kept secret between the manufacturer and lotus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bmpower, lotus is still a legend. </p>
<p>every single-seater race car today, from A1 to Formula 1 still uses the original pioneering design by lotus.  </p>
<p>a new lotus variant was just voted autocar uk&#8217;s best handling car i believe 2 months ago. </p>
<p>the upcoming nissan skyline GTR&#8217;s handling is tuned by lotus.. many  more other cars on the road today are also tuned by lotus, but are kept secret between the manufacturer and lotus.</p>
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		<title>By: bmpower</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135947</link>
		<dc:creator>bmpower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 07:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyway.. 
Lotus is Brits Legend.

*in the past years ago...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyway..<br />
Lotus is Brits Legend.</p>
<p>*in the past years ago&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ob8</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135923</link>
		<dc:creator>ob8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think proton will develop as the nation develop. msia&#039;s technolgy stature will reflects greatly on proton. that means &#039;engineerd by lotus&#039; is a marketing ploy more than anything else. the quetion is how long will the protectionsm last? i do not think it will happen in my lifetime. i&#039;m in my 20s and dont carry a bird flu H5N1. Paul please do something about  the swearing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think proton will develop as the nation develop. msia&#8217;s technolgy stature will reflects greatly on proton. that means &#8216;engineerd by lotus&#8217; is a marketing ploy more than anything else. the quetion is how long will the protectionsm last? i do not think it will happen in my lifetime. i&#8217;m in my 20s and dont carry a bird flu H5N1. Paul please do something about  the swearing.</p>
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		<title>By: bmpower</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135910</link>
		<dc:creator>bmpower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 03:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PTAllTheBest said,
December 16, 2007 @ 9:16 pm
i bought persona only because of the stupid NAPâ€¦!
â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€“

I don&#039;t even believe PTAllTheBest buy a persona. But &#039;pretend bought a persona&#039; is Yes.. 
Many bashers nowaday liars.. They said they own the car.. then bash this bash that.. 

Anyway.. Ptaii .. lucky you had a car.. many people in other country can&#039;t afford even a small bike. And many people in malaysia too just can drive used car. They just dream can get a persona like you.. 

When you drive BMW.. there&#039;s many kancils beside you on the road. And many others old car beside you. 
When you drive SLR , there&#039;s many again people drive Swift, Myvi, etc and they wish had a car like you too.. 

And then again.. when you had a small car like kancil/kelisa etc.. many &#039;Public Trasportian&#039; wish they had some car kancil like you.. 

Human just always not enough. &#039;Kurang bersyukur&#039;.

And now what about some other country that still using their : 
&#039;Toyota&#039;  COWrolla. Had a 100cc bikes already talk of the village.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PTAllTheBest said,<br />
December 16, 2007 @ 9:16 pm<br />
i bought persona only because of the stupid NAPâ€¦!<br />
â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€“</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even believe PTAllTheBest buy a persona. But &#8216;pretend bought a persona&#8217; is Yes..<br />
Many bashers nowaday liars.. They said they own the car.. then bash this bash that.. </p>
<p>Anyway.. Ptaii .. lucky you had a car.. many people in other country can&#8217;t afford even a small bike. And many people in malaysia too just can drive used car. They just dream can get a persona like you.. </p>
<p>When you drive BMW.. there&#8217;s many kancils beside you on the road. And many others old car beside you.<br />
When you drive SLR , there&#8217;s many again people drive Swift, Myvi, etc and they wish had a car like you too.. </p>
<p>And then again.. when you had a small car like kancil/kelisa etc.. many &#8216;Public Trasportian&#8217; wish they had some car kancil like you.. </p>
<p>Human just always not enough. &#8216;Kurang bersyukur&#8217;.</p>
<p>And now what about some other country that still using their :<br />
&#8216;Toyota&#8217;  COWrolla. Had a 100cc bikes already talk of the village.</p>
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		<title>By: supernan9</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135867</link>
		<dc:creator>supernan9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 02:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proud to see malaysian face on other country&#039;s road..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proud to see malaysian face on other country&#8217;s road..</p>
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		<title>By: BanyakMasukWorkshop</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135780</link>
		<dc:creator>BanyakMasukWorkshop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proton has already secured the sale of these cars to youngman of china, that seems to be the fact. meaning money in the bank to proton. well done!

the marketing, the sales..etc. etc. are done by the chinese company youngman. (although bigfish posted that this is not true, and the deal wont materialise) they are already an established and successful company in china who knows their business and market.  as we all know, a chinaman businessman is not going to get involved with something thats gonna lose him money.  he has probably done all the groundwork, and made all the effort to find the marketing formula that will help him sell these cars which is a lot more than i can say for people who sit on their behind all day typing stupid comments on a blog on the internet (me included).  What the heck do we know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proton has already secured the sale of these cars to youngman of china, that seems to be the fact. meaning money in the bank to proton. well done!</p>
<p>the marketing, the sales..etc. etc. are done by the chinese company youngman. (although bigfish posted that this is not true, and the deal wont materialise) they are already an established and successful company in china who knows their business and market.  as we all know, a chinaman businessman is not going to get involved with something thats gonna lose him money.  he has probably done all the groundwork, and made all the effort to find the marketing formula that will help him sell these cars which is a lot more than i can say for people who sit on their behind all day typing stupid comments on a blog on the internet (me included).  What the heck do we know?</p>
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		<title>By: armandd</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135666</link>
		<dc:creator>armandd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ezralimm said,

December 17, 2007 @ 1:23 am

Google Europestar RCR and THIS WEBPAGE ON PAULTANâ€™s BLOG comes out as the FIRST SEARCH RESULT.

My god ppl, I got a feeling prospective chinese buyers googling this car is gonna get a bad impression just by reading your comments.

Itâ€™s ok to give factual comments, but most of the comments by the critics consist of overvalued ideas. The standard of truth and reasoning is appalling.
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very true indeed. paul, you should do something about this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ezralimm said,</p>
<p>December 17, 2007 @ 1:23 am</p>
<p>Google Europestar RCR and THIS WEBPAGE ON PAULTANâ€™s BLOG comes out as the FIRST SEARCH RESULT.</p>
<p>My god ppl, I got a feeling prospective chinese buyers googling this car is gonna get a bad impression just by reading your comments.</p>
<p>Itâ€™s ok to give factual comments, but most of the comments by the critics consist of overvalued ideas. The standard of truth and reasoning is appalling.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>very true indeed. paul, you should do something about this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: marvel</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135663</link>
		<dc:creator>marvel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PTAllTheBest said,
December 16, 2007 @ 9:16 pm 
i bought persona only because of the stupid NAPâ€¦!
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Good idea..buy the car then bash...then get angry..then bash...but it&#039;s your car..You should do what JC did to the Kelisa he &quot;bought&#039;, then everyone will say..&#039;You&#039;re the Man.!!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PTAllTheBest said,<br />
December 16, 2007 @ 9:16 pm<br />
i bought persona only because of the stupid NAPâ€¦!<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Good idea..buy the car then bash&#8230;then get angry..then bash&#8230;but it&#8217;s your car..You should do what JC did to the Kelisa he &#8220;bought&#8217;, then everyone will say..&#8217;You&#8217;re the Man.!!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ezralimm</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135634</link>
		<dc:creator>ezralimm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google Europestar RCR and THIS WEBPAGE ON PAULTAN&#039;s BLOG comes out as the FIRST SEARCH RESULT.

My god ppl, I got a feeling prospective chinese buyers googling this car is gonna get a bad impression just by reading your comments.

It&#039;s ok to give factual comments, but most of the comments by the critics consist of overvalued ideas. The standard of truth and reasoning is appalling.

Lotus sells a few thousand cars a year, yet some critics are declaring that it is dead.

I dont agree with the blind supporters either. It&#039;s not about &quot;hilang jati diri&quot; or anything like that, but you gotta see Proton for what it is.

1) Dont base your opinions solely on overvalued ideas.
2) Get a sense of perspective. The grey area between black and white. Dont just see black like the blind bashers..or white like the blind supporters.
3) Dont make grand declarations like &quot;lotus is dead&quot; based on oversimplified logic and premature conclusions.

Of late Proton has actually been improving in quality. Build quality and QC is starting to pick up. It is now spreading it&#039;s wings. But it seems nothing it does can satisfy the bashers - turning even a positive thread into a very negative one. 

sheesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google Europestar RCR and THIS WEBPAGE ON PAULTAN&#8217;s BLOG comes out as the FIRST SEARCH RESULT.</p>
<p>My god ppl, I got a feeling prospective chinese buyers googling this car is gonna get a bad impression just by reading your comments.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s ok to give factual comments, but most of the comments by the critics consist of overvalued ideas. The standard of truth and reasoning is appalling.</p>
<p>Lotus sells a few thousand cars a year, yet some critics are declaring that it is dead.</p>
<p>I dont agree with the blind supporters either. It&#8217;s not about &#8220;hilang jati diri&#8221; or anything like that, but you gotta see Proton for what it is.</p>
<p>1) Dont base your opinions solely on overvalued ideas.<br />
2) Get a sense of perspective. The grey area between black and white. Dont just see black like the blind bashers..or white like the blind supporters.<br />
3) Dont make grand declarations like &#8220;lotus is dead&#8221; based on oversimplified logic and premature conclusions.</p>
<p>Of late Proton has actually been improving in quality. Build quality and QC is starting to pick up. It is now spreading it&#8217;s wings. But it seems nothing it does can satisfy the bashers &#8211; turning even a positive thread into a very negative one. </p>
<p>sheesh.</p>
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		<title>By: ezralimm</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135625</link>
		<dc:creator>ezralimm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ROTFLMAO.

The techno music and wobbly camera is reminescent of a low budget prawn flick.

hahahahahaha. I cant stop laughing.


But to be fair, the gen2 is a reasonably well designed car. Ok, it&#039;s not a sports car, but does have that sporty look.

Im sure if the same design had come out of some small car company in China local commenters wont be so harsh. Over here in Malaysia we see them on the road all the time,... so it&#039;s nothing special.

But in other countries it&#039;s a different story.

Aesthetically the gen2 is quite sporty looking compared to other contemporary 5door hatches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROTFLMAO.</p>
<p>The techno music and wobbly camera is reminescent of a low budget prawn flick.</p>
<p>hahahahahaha. I cant stop laughing.</p>
<p>But to be fair, the gen2 is a reasonably well designed car. Ok, it&#8217;s not a sports car, but does have that sporty look.</p>
<p>Im sure if the same design had come out of some small car company in China local commenters wont be so harsh. Over here in Malaysia we see them on the road all the time,&#8230; so it&#8217;s nothing special.</p>
<p>But in other countries it&#8217;s a different story.</p>
<p>Aesthetically the gen2 is quite sporty looking compared to other contemporary 5door hatches.</p>
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		<title>By: infinity</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135595</link>
		<dc:creator>infinity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PTAllTheBest said,
December 16, 2007 @ 9:16 pm 

i bought persona only because of the stupid NAPâ€¦!

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i can see tat u hate proton very much, which means u hate the persona u r driving too...i really pity u tat whenever u get into the car, u have the &quot;stupid-proton-make-me-cant-drive-better-cars&quot; feeling...thus spoiling ur day...sad to c such ppl around...

anyway, it&#039;s good tat proton could penetrate the china market...it&#039;s a huge market in china...1.3billion ppl...and i am sure tat proton is way better than their local cars...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PTAllTheBest said,<br />
December 16, 2007 @ 9:16 pm </p>
<p>i bought persona only because of the stupid NAPâ€¦!</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
i can see tat u hate proton very much, which means u hate the persona u r driving too&#8230;i really pity u tat whenever u get into the car, u have the &#8220;stupid-proton-make-me-cant-drive-better-cars&#8221; feeling&#8230;thus spoiling ur day&#8230;sad to c such ppl around&#8230;</p>
<p>anyway, it&#8217;s good tat proton could penetrate the china market&#8230;it&#8217;s a huge market in china&#8230;1.3billion ppl&#8230;and i am sure tat proton is way better than their local cars&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: infinity</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135594</link>
		<dc:creator>infinity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PTAllTheBest said,
December 16, 2007 @ 9:16 pm 

i bought persona only because of the stupid NAPâ€¦!

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i can see tat u hate proton very much, which means u hate the persona u r driving too...i really pity u tat whenever u get into the car, u have the &quot;stupid-proton-make-me-cant-drive-better-cars&quot; feeling...thus spoiling ur day...sad to c such ppl around...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PTAllTheBest said,<br />
December 16, 2007 @ 9:16 pm </p>
<p>i bought persona only because of the stupid NAPâ€¦!</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
i can see tat u hate proton very much, which means u hate the persona u r driving too&#8230;i really pity u tat whenever u get into the car, u have the &#8220;stupid-proton-make-me-cant-drive-better-cars&#8221; feeling&#8230;thus spoiling ur day&#8230;sad to c such ppl around&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PTAllTheBest</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135571</link>
		<dc:creator>PTAllTheBest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MisterBenjo said,
December 16, 2007 @ 4:44 am 

who said gen2 is uglyâ€¦.people buy gen2 only because of its look and handling okay nothing else



i bought persona only because of the stupid NAP...!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MisterBenjo said,<br />
December 16, 2007 @ 4:44 am </p>
<p>who said gen2 is uglyâ€¦.people buy gen2 only because of its look and handling okay nothing else</p>
<p>i bought persona only because of the stupid NAP&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: PTAllTheBest</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135568</link>
		<dc:creator>PTAllTheBest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>myst said,
December 15, 2007 @ 9:42 pm 

Just bashing and bashing and bashing..Come on la wehhâ€¦Even though i realize current G is bullshit and full off corruption, why should u put all the blame on Proton? Singapore produce their own car? NOT..Thailand? NOT..Indonesia? NOT..Philippine?..NOT..Proton even EXPORT their own car..THINK AGAIN..Donâ€™t be fooled by ur High Imigination



others country dun produce are JUST TO save money
malaysia produce car JUST TO sucks money</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>myst said,<br />
December 15, 2007 @ 9:42 pm </p>
<p>Just bashing and bashing and bashing..Come on la wehhâ€¦Even though i realize current G is bullshit and full off corruption, why should u put all the blame on Proton? Singapore produce their own car? NOT..Thailand? NOT..Indonesia? NOT..Philippine?..NOT..Proton even EXPORT their own car..THINK AGAIN..Donâ€™t be fooled by ur High Imigination</p>
<p>others country dun produce are JUST TO save money<br />
malaysia produce car JUST TO sucks money</p>
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		<title>By: jazzer</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135464</link>
		<dc:creator>jazzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 07:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we should proud....hey bmx.go other cntry la.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we should proud&#8230;.hey bmx.go other cntry la&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: jazzer</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135461</link>
		<dc:creator>jazzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 07:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stop insult p1..be more patriotic la</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stop insult p1..be more patriotic la</p>
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		<title>By: Apathy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135392</link>
		<dc:creator>Apathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lots of p1 owner (including myself) hate p1 coz interior quality SUCKS and original factory fitted parts easily rosak. i&#039;m not expecting any K-Klasse quality from p1 price, just a better built quality for me to bear everyday. p1 always comes up with half baked cars. period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lots of p1 owner (including myself) hate p1 coz interior quality SUCKS and original factory fitted parts easily rosak. i&#8217;m not expecting any K-Klasse quality from p1 price, just a better built quality for me to bear everyday. p1 always comes up with half baked cars. period.</p>
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		<title>By: auctioncenter2u</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135263</link>
		<dc:creator>auctioncenter2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 00:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow the BAdge is Weird, LION mixed with Ferrari or Porsche Background. Its look a bit CHEAP. WHy shouldn&#039;t they use a Better mark on it.

Old time, Proton rebadged Mitsu car, NOw Young man Rebadged Proton car. Good! At least someone is interested on PROTON.

About this RCR, if From far its look like PROTON badge and No different from GEN2. Let&#039;s hope that this RCR will get profit soon. PROTON tambah Minyak! (CHinese said)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow the BAdge is Weird, LION mixed with Ferrari or Porsche Background. Its look a bit CHEAP. WHy shouldn&#8217;t they use a Better mark on it.</p>
<p>Old time, Proton rebadged Mitsu car, NOw Young man Rebadged Proton car. Good! At least someone is interested on PROTON.</p>
<p>About this RCR, if From far its look like PROTON badge and No different from GEN2. Let&#8217;s hope that this RCR will get profit soon. PROTON tambah Minyak! (CHinese said)</p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135204</link>
		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if china like jaundice gen2 they can have it. if it takes a badge change do it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if china like jaundice gen2 they can have it. if it takes a badge change do it</p>
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		<title>By: MisterBenjo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135180</link>
		<dc:creator>MisterBenjo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who said gen2 is ugly....people buy gen2 only because of its look and handling okay nothing else</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who said gen2 is ugly&#8230;.people buy gen2 only because of its look and handling okay nothing else</p>
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		<title>By: myst</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135141</link>
		<dc:creator>myst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading n Bashing..That&#039;s all BolehLand guys capable off</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading n Bashing..That&#8217;s all BolehLand guys capable off</p>
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		<title>By: nanashisan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135132</link>
		<dc:creator>nanashisan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahaha
im enjoying u guys bashing n flaming each other.
gonna get some popcorn....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaha<br />
im enjoying u guys bashing n flaming each other.<br />
gonna get some popcorn&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: abe</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135126</link>
		<dc:creator>abe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jgn suka cakap &#039;mencarut&#039; daa.

jual kete brand sendiri kat overesea pun komplen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jgn suka cakap &#8216;mencarut&#8217; daa.</p>
<p>jual kete brand sendiri kat overesea pun komplen.</p>
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		<title>By: Dogster</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2007/12/15/europestar-rcr-rebadged-gen2-in-china/#comment-135099</link>
		<dc:creator>Dogster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebadged Lotus Racer. WTF... Did that car ever existed?
The Campro 1.6 liter engine makes 84 kilowatts (112.6 horsepower) = makes the car a RaCeR??? Walueh. If Proton dont compare its cars with the bigger manufacturers, how can it survive in the future.. Grow proton grow. Please dont give big words to small underperformed things... Totally speechless...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebadged Lotus Racer. WTF&#8230; Did that car ever existed?<br />
The Campro 1.6 liter engine makes 84 kilowatts (112.6 horsepower) = makes the car a RaCeR??? Walueh. If Proton dont compare its cars with the bigger manufacturers, how can it survive in the future.. Grow proton grow. Please dont give big words to small underperformed things&#8230; Totally speechless&#8230;</p>
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