Comments on: Proton BLM: new Saga booking open http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:13:45 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: noms http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-156868 noms Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:10:35 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-156868 wow! wow!

]]> By: SY0H http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-143484 SY0H Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:44:53 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-143484 I QUOTE FROM: "enginerd_2008 said, January 1, 2008 @ 4:17 pm, we need to support PROTON, because some of the workers in PROTON maybe our relatives and friends..and if something bad happen to PROTON… it will effect their workers too.." My dear fellow Malaysian, as far as I'm concerned, I do not have any close or long distance relatives working with Proton, so I don't give a damn of supporting it. Furthermore, when it comes to money, it is strictly business and there's no such thing as "family business intervention or whatsoever" that will affect my power of judgment as a meticulous consumer, in which I have sweat day and night just to earn few Malaysian Ringgit. If Proton wants my money (or the consumers' money) then Proton should work hard for it by providing us good quality products as well as competitive price. I don't believe in supporting people or product blindly and worst still losing my money to a very low quality product (I have a lot of bad experience with Proton models). So I'd really hope Proton's Crony Supplier, Proton's Salesman, Proton's Engineer Kampung (everybody knows Proton is famous outsourcing its design and engineering to overseas) and all those Datuk-Datuk Crony, just shut the f*** up and wait until BLM comes out officially and let us CONSUMERS judge it from top to bottom. Enough said. The Evil Decepticon SY0H. I QUOTE FROM:
“enginerd_2008 said, January 1, 2008 @ 4:17 pm,
we need to support PROTON, because some of the workers in PROTON maybe our relatives and friends..and if something bad happen to PROTON… it will effect their workers too..”

My dear fellow Malaysian, as far as I’m concerned, I do not have any close or long distance relatives working with Proton, so I don’t give a damn of supporting it. Furthermore, when it comes to money, it is strictly business and there’s no such thing as “family business intervention or whatsoever” that will affect my power of judgment as a meticulous consumer, in which I have sweat day and night just to earn few Malaysian Ringgit.

If Proton wants my money (or the consumers’ money) then Proton should work hard for it by providing us good quality products as well as competitive price. I don’t believe in supporting people or product blindly and worst still losing my money to a very low quality product (I have a lot of bad experience with Proton models). So I’d really hope Proton’s Crony Supplier, Proton’s Salesman, Proton’s Engineer Kampung (everybody knows Proton is famous outsourcing its design and engineering to overseas) and all those Datuk-Datuk Crony, just shut the f*** up and wait until BLM comes out officially and let us CONSUMERS judge it from top to bottom. Enough said.

The Evil Decepticon SY0H.

]]> By: nuajon http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-142531 nuajon Sun, 06 Jan 2008 10:47:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-142531 for N-LINE manual w/out sport rims price is OTR RM31,500, for B-LINE manual and auto w/out sport rims price start from 34,548 to 37,998 and for M-LINE with rims start from 37,048 to 39,998......hot selling cake!!! for N-LINE manual w/out sport rims price is OTR RM31,500, for B-LINE manual and auto w/out sport rims price start from 34,548 to 37,998 and for M-LINE with rims start from 37,048 to 39,998……hot selling cake!!!

]]> By: ausmat http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-142223 ausmat Fri, 04 Jan 2008 15:32:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-142223 Today i just ask the proton agent, the most lowest spec Manual Saga is selling RM31599. and for Auto the chepest price is RM37899. I duno why there is such a big gap between auto and manual transmission. Today i just ask the proton agent, the most lowest spec Manual Saga is selling RM31599. and for Auto the chepest price is RM37899. I duno why there is such a big gap between auto and manual transmission.

]]> By: gokibin http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141944 gokibin Thu, 03 Jan 2008 13:27:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141944 Been planning to get meself a myvi but this is gonna really make me decision hard... me thinks me need to check blm first... please do review blm so me can make me purchasing decision well. me thank all. Been planning to get meself a myvi but this is gonna really make me decision hard… me thinks me need to check blm first… please do review blm so me can make me purchasing decision well. me thank all.

]]> By: Wilfred http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141700 Wilfred Wed, 02 Jan 2008 14:57:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141700 wait guys...although Proton brand wasn't so successful since launched...don't you think that we should give Proton another chance to prove itself? Way to go Proton! wait guys…although Proton brand wasn’t so successful since launched…don’t you think that we should give Proton another chance to prove itself? Way to go Proton!

]]> By: sepul14 http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141612 sepul14 Wed, 02 Jan 2008 07:09:24 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141612 price list:- 33k, 35k, 37k, 40k details....coming soon price list:-
33k, 35k, 37k, 40k

details….coming soon

]]> By: chocochino http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141589 chocochino Wed, 02 Jan 2008 04:58:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141589 look good for rm35k. look good for rm35k.

]]> By: msmar_453 http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141518 msmar_453 Wed, 02 Jan 2008 00:40:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141518 saw Buletin TV3 last night about BLM, Guess what? this Paul Tan website appeared with registered plate no. black undisguised BLM pictures!! Guess what again? NO credit for you, Paul Tan! Poor you! saw Buletin TV3 last night about BLM,
Guess what? this Paul Tan website appeared with registered plate no. black undisguised BLM pictures!!
Guess what again? NO credit for you, Paul Tan!
Poor you!

]]> By: vandenlye http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141444 vandenlye Tue, 01 Jan 2008 17:05:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141444 actually the car with this type of shape have nothing to do with the word like 'look nice', 'cool', or 'beautiful', to me it looks 'odd'...overall body line out of proportion. actually the car with this type of shape have nothing to do with the word like ‘look nice’, ‘cool’, or ‘beautiful’, to me it looks ‘odd’…overall body line out of proportion.

]]> By: nuajon http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141437 nuajon Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:14:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141437 what ever is...SAGA nama yg telah GAH since 1985 until 2007 with the ISWARA kereta kebal...now we come with SAGA 2008 model....so....support our SAGA n other Proton cars!!! what ever is…SAGA nama yg telah GAH since 1985 until 2007 with the ISWARA kereta kebal…now we come with SAGA 2008 model….so….support our SAGA n other Proton cars!!!

]]> By: Paul Tan http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141406 Paul Tan Tue, 01 Jan 2008 14:15:41 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141406 I don't think we should trust what Wikipedia says 100% I don’t think we should trust what Wikipedia says 100%

]]> By: ys http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141402 ys Tue, 01 Jan 2008 13:50:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141402 MyviKiller said, January 1, 2008 @ 9:31 pm Cecibo The vendors have to skip their quality test to meet the unexpected demand, that’s why our Waja is soo teruk. This source is from Wikipedia. if that the case then mati lah BLM. anyway, lets give proton a change to show Malaysian what they can produce. good luck Proton MyviKiller said,
January 1, 2008 @ 9:31 pm

Cecibo

The vendors have to skip their quality test to meet the unexpected demand, that’s why our Waja is soo teruk. This source is from Wikipedia.

if that the case then mati lah BLM.
anyway, lets give proton a change to show Malaysian what they can produce.
good luck Proton

]]> By: MyviKiller http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141390 MyviKiller Tue, 01 Jan 2008 13:27:32 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141390 Cecibo The vendors have to skip their quality test for the Waja components because of the unexpected demand, that's why our Waja is soo teruk. This source is from Wikipedia. Cecibo

The vendors have to skip their quality test for the Waja components because of the unexpected demand, that’s why our Waja is soo teruk. This source is from Wikipedia.

]]> By: nuajon http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141386 nuajon Tue, 01 Jan 2008 13:03:55 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141386 yeah2!!! love SAGA @ My ISWARA!!!! love it!!!! yeah2!!!
love SAGA @ My ISWARA!!!!

love it!!!!

]]> By: cecibo http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141382 cecibo Tue, 01 Jan 2008 12:57:39 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141382 forgive me... i'm not campaign "dont buy proton" but i have to share this fact so you could know the quality of your future proton car. try to inspect of any parts faulty, make sure there in good condition before you bring it home, be a wise consumer. forgive me… i’m not campaign “dont buy proton” but i have to share this fact so you could know the quality of your future proton car. try to inspect of any parts faulty, make sure there in good condition before you bring it home, be a wise consumer.

]]> By: cecibo http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141379 cecibo Tue, 01 Jan 2008 12:42:32 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141379 the problem that is still surrounding proton right now is with their vendor, they doesn't seem to produce good quality parts. I just remember 1 funny story from my friend, he used to worked at proton factory (just now he quit), some of the parts are hardly to fit in (tak brapa ngam) but they have to push it coz there's no spare and sometimes bile dh bengang they violently throw the things and then take it and put it back. well don't blame them heheh... funny but sad... hope proton had overcome with this vendor problem the problem that is still surrounding proton right now is with their vendor, they doesn’t seem to produce good quality parts.

I just remember 1 funny story from my friend, he used to worked at proton factory (just now he quit), some of the parts are hardly to fit in (tak brapa ngam) but they have to push it coz there’s no spare and sometimes bile dh bengang they violently throw the things and then take it and put it back.

well don’t blame them heheh…

funny but sad…

hope proton had overcome with this vendor problem

]]> By: sam1983 http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141372 sam1983 Tue, 01 Jan 2008 11:25:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141372 Proton had really done well this time, improved its R&D, design, etc. However, sad to say at this price of RM30K to RM40K, the raw material used in this car must be cheap, with total cost estimated at RM17K to RM20K(High line) before all other tax applies. It's common SENSE that building a car at this cost will give the kind of quality. I am a proton owner, and I can even quote you the price of a component in a car, ie: A denso compressor would already cost RM1200-00. Therefore, the areas which Proton can save is its accesories; such as power windows, door handles, ICE, interior body, etc. I would not say that the quality will be bad but just not reliable. What more the SC for proton are not really professional in giving good QUALITY services. Ever since I brought a proton car, I swear that I would never buy a SECOND. I prefer that M'sians would buy PERODUA vehicles as most of the parts are outsource(Toyota/Daihatsu) or has been used in imported cars. I believe most of you would agree with me on this matter. Just take a look between these vehicles produced by Proton and Perodua. You decide!! Proton had really done well this time, improved its R&D, design, etc. However, sad to say at this price of RM30K to RM40K, the raw material used in this car must be cheap, with total cost estimated at RM17K to RM20K(High line) before all other tax applies. It’s common SENSE that building a car at this cost will give the kind of quality. I am a proton owner, and I can even quote you the price of a component in a car, ie: A denso compressor would already cost RM1200-00. Therefore, the areas which Proton can save is its accesories; such as power windows, door handles, ICE, interior body, etc. I would not say that the quality will be bad but just not reliable. What more the SC for proton are not really professional in giving good QUALITY services. Ever since I brought a proton car, I swear that I would never buy a SECOND. I prefer that M’sians would buy PERODUA vehicles as most of the parts are outsource(Toyota/Daihatsu) or has been used in imported cars. I believe most of you would agree with me on this matter. Just take a look between these vehicles produced by Proton and Perodua. You decide!!

]]> By: tec96248 http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141352 tec96248 Tue, 01 Jan 2008 09:13:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141352 wflo128 said, January 1, 2008 @ 4:15 pm price won't scare people away, savvy is cheaper than myvi so? what about wira? viva? vios and avanza also can outsell waja even though vios is far more expensive. but quality problems can scare away car owners. nowadays consumer are capable and smart too. wflo128 said,
January 1, 2008 @ 4:15 pm

price won’t scare people away, savvy is cheaper than myvi so? what about wira? viva? vios and avanza also can outsell waja even though vios is far more expensive. but quality problems can scare away car owners. nowadays consumer are capable and smart too.

]]> By: cecibo http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141347 cecibo Tue, 01 Jan 2008 08:27:08 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141347 # BigFish said, January 1, 2008 @ 2:38 pm cecibo, you mean “waite and see” attitude! ----------------- if it's necessary #
BigFish said,

January 1, 2008 @ 2:38 pm

cecibo, you mean “waite and see” attitude!

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if it’s necessary

]]> By: enginerd_2008 http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141346 enginerd_2008 Tue, 01 Jan 2008 08:17:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141346 Guys..did you realise that since 1984, PROTON employ many malaysian to become their engineer, technician etc... Without PROTON, Perodua, Naza and others will not have the EXPERT automotive engineer... because many of them work with PROTON before they join Perodua and Naza... So, we need to support PROTON, because some of the workers in PROTON maybe our relatives and friends..and if something bad happen to PROTON... it will effect their workers too.. in term of Quality, i can see PROTON have done a lot of improvement. Do not think that everything is 100% perfect, since we also not 100% perfect. I believe that 2008 will be the bench mark for PROTON to success in automotive industry... If the "SAGA Neo" dominant the market, i believe that Perodua and Naza also will create their "new clone model" with lower price,and at that time, everybody can buy new car... So..lets think about that:) Guys..did you realise that since 1984, PROTON employ many malaysian to become their engineer, technician etc…
Without PROTON, Perodua, Naza and others will not have the EXPERT automotive engineer… because many of them work with PROTON before they join Perodua and Naza…
So, we need to support PROTON, because some of the workers in PROTON maybe our relatives and friends..and if something bad happen to PROTON… it will effect their workers too..
in term of Quality, i can see PROTON have done a lot of improvement. Do not think that everything is 100% perfect, since we also not 100% perfect.
I believe that 2008 will be the bench mark for PROTON to success in automotive industry…
If the “SAGA Neo” dominant the market, i believe that Perodua and Naza also will create their “new clone model” with lower price,and at that time, everybody can buy new car… So..lets think about that:)

]]> By: wflo128 http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141345 wflo128 Tue, 01 Jan 2008 08:15:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141345 tec96248 said, January 1, 2008 @ 10:01 am ==don’t worry, perodua won’t die and disappear……..bcos lot’s of people do like 4door hatchback. >>> but the price scared out a lot ppl away from perodua to PROTON !!!!!!!!!!! tec96248 said,

January 1, 2008 @ 10:01 am

==don’t worry, perodua won’t die and disappear……..bcos lot’s of people do like 4door hatchback.

>>> but the price scared out a lot ppl away from perodua to PROTON !!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: BigFish http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141320 BigFish Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:38:27 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141320 cecibo, you mean "waite and see" attitude! cecibo, you mean “waite and see” attitude!

]]> By: BigFish http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141319 BigFish Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:36:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141319 http://www.proton.com/ The appproach of the teaser is different from previous Persona or Satria Neo model as it is "clear-cut" http://www.proton.com/

The appproach of the teaser is different from previous Persona or Satria Neo model as it is “clear-cut”

]]> By: cecibo http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141317 cecibo Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:30:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141317 think before buying... think before buying…

]]> By: bavarian http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141316 bavarian Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:29:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141316 looks good the rear looks like old c-class looks good the rear looks like old c-class

]]> By: BigFish http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141315 BigFish Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:28:12 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141315 Look at Proton's website: http://www.proton.com/ Look at Proton’s website:

http://www.proton.com/

]]> By: BigFish http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141313 BigFish Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:20:59 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141313 So you’re the bashers those make fake story right? wait for the proton’s lawyer bring you to court. -------------- Blind defender flame other as basher, pathetic! So you’re the bashers those make fake story right?
wait for the proton’s lawyer bring you to court.
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Blind defender flame other as basher, pathetic!

]]> By: kei9 http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141309 kei9 Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:07:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141309 This gotta be a hit for sure... =) This gotta be a hit for sure… =)

]]> By: waja2000 http://paultan.org/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141306 waja2000 Tue, 01 Jan 2008 05:56:24 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/31/proton-blm-bookings-officially-opened/#comment-141306 MyviKiller i read other forum they put.. BLM = Boleh Lawan Myvi .... MyviKiller

i read other forum they put..

BLM = Boleh Lawan Myvi ….

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