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	<title>Comments on: Proton Saga: 23,000 bookings, 5 month wait!</title>
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	<description>Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry</description>
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		<title>By: MUHAMAD FIRDAUS</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-273691</link>
		<dc:creator>MUHAMAD FIRDAUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proton perlu kerja dengan lebih keras lagi untuk memenuhi tampahan pengguna, dah tempah kereta proton tapi x dapat lagi.. ada rase nak change ke perodua ke.. kawan aku tempah myvi 2 minggu dah dapat.. proton saga aku 2 bulan pun x tau cerita lagi.. salesman dok kate seminggu ke seminggu dampai aku pun dah naik fed up....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proton perlu kerja dengan lebih keras lagi untuk memenuhi tampahan pengguna, dah tempah kereta proton tapi x dapat lagi.. ada rase nak change ke perodua ke.. kawan aku tempah myvi 2 minggu dah dapat.. proton saga aku 2 bulan pun x tau cerita lagi.. salesman dok kate seminggu ke seminggu dampai aku pun dah naik fed up&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rupert CAMPBELL</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-236614</link>
		<dc:creator>Rupert CAMPBELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 22:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to find parts for my porton saga, I am living jamaica and finding hard to get part for car. So I am asking for information</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to find parts for my porton saga, I am living jamaica and finding hard to get part for car. So I am asking for information</p>
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		<title>By: andrewtan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-163988</link>
		<dc:creator>andrewtan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 08:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D waiting it&#039;s definetely more than 5 months. I checked with the proton and i noticed that some people who booked the car before the launch still havent got their car yet. The production is crazy, they never follow the demand. If you booked MLine, u may have to wait longer. If u booked the Manual transmission then be prepare to get it after 7 months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D waiting it&#8217;s definetely more than 5 months. I checked with the proton and i noticed that some people who booked the car before the launch still havent got their car yet. The production is crazy, they never follow the demand. If you booked MLine, u may have to wait longer. If u booked the Manual transmission then be prepare to get it after 7 months.</p>
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		<title>By: Time Observer</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-160858</link>
		<dc:creator>Time Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to wait for 5 months? Is it still going on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to wait for 5 months? Is it still going on?</p>
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		<title>By: proton GL</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-159487</link>
		<dc:creator>proton GL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 04:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nubie 
go to its center, get sorted,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nubie<br />
go to its center, get sorted,</p>
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		<title>By: nubie</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-153361</link>
		<dc:creator>nubie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, not sure if this is useful or in the correct thread but its rather discouraging for me, we took delivery of the proton BLM last week and this week we had a door lock knob problem! when unlocking the car using the central locking key fob one of the rear door knob is not releasing itself properly and got stuck midway up with ensuing problems. My primary reason for buying this car is the value it represents but by the looks of it, my parents are going to have to live with the car&#039;s QC issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, not sure if this is useful or in the correct thread but its rather discouraging for me, we took delivery of the proton BLM last week and this week we had a door lock knob problem! when unlocking the car using the central locking key fob one of the rear door knob is not releasing itself properly and got stuck midway up with ensuing problems. My primary reason for buying this car is the value it represents but by the looks of it, my parents are going to have to live with the car&#8217;s QC issues.</p>
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		<title>By: topgunthang</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-150612</link>
		<dc:creator>topgunthang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good. open up the car market and watch some heavy price competition between proton and international brands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good. open up the car market and watch some heavy price competition between proton and international brands.</p>
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		<title>By: snailhill78</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-150222</link>
		<dc:creator>snailhill78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now i&#039;ve heard that the bookings is 30&#039;000 units..
thats amazing!!! good job proton!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now i&#8217;ve heard that the bookings is 30&#8242;000 units..<br />
thats amazing!!! good job proton!!!</p>
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		<title>By: king</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-149436</link>
		<dc:creator>king</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bravo P1....just send overpriced viva to the grave!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bravo P1&#8230;.just send overpriced viva to the grave!!!</p>
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		<title>By: cwt100</title>
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		<dc:creator>cwt100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 10:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Job P1!! for those ppl out there still jealous with the P1 performance recently... keeep on coz you all are loser... I will proud of P1!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Job P1!! for those ppl out there still jealous with the P1 performance recently&#8230; keeep on coz you all are loser&#8230; I will proud of P1!!</p>
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		<title>By: The Unicons</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-149086</link>
		<dc:creator>The Unicons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 10:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So far so good. Keep up the good job with right products and the right price. All the best to Proton.</description>
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		<title>By: Neutral_Fan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-149050</link>
		<dc:creator>Neutral_Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 07:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo P1... as of yesterday, the actual booking was 29000 units. Wow! the faster sell even Myvi not like this.
I guess to this 2 days weekend, the booking will keep coming.. expect to reach at least 32000units.

Bravo again P1 !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo P1&#8230; as of yesterday, the actual booking was 29000 units. Wow! the faster sell even Myvi not like this.<br />
I guess to this 2 days weekend, the booking will keep coming.. expect to reach at least 32000units.</p>
<p>Bravo again P1 !!</p>
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		<title>By: ezralimm</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-149015</link>
		<dc:creator>ezralimm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 03:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The government has been slowly chaning it&#039;s policies to comply with AFTA without too much shock to the local used car industry.

Pls note, there is no such thing as 300% tax anymore. The Suzuki swift is almost the same price in malaysia compared to australia. Small cars like the latio, vios/yaris and jazz are about 20% more expensive in malaysia compared to first world markets once OTR costs are included.

The govt will have to abolish the unfair tax policies designed to shield the local car industry eventually. With AFTA specifying a 5% import tariff, a city/yaris would still cost upwards of RM60k OTR excluding insurance.

The New Saga is only RM40k at it&#039;s highest trim!

Kudos to proton. Time will tell if their QC has really improved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The government has been slowly chaning it&#8217;s policies to comply with AFTA without too much shock to the local used car industry.</p>
<p>Pls note, there is no such thing as 300% tax anymore. The Suzuki swift is almost the same price in malaysia compared to australia. Small cars like the latio, vios/yaris and jazz are about 20% more expensive in malaysia compared to first world markets once OTR costs are included.</p>
<p>The govt will have to abolish the unfair tax policies designed to shield the local car industry eventually. With AFTA specifying a 5% import tariff, a city/yaris would still cost upwards of RM60k OTR excluding insurance.</p>
<p>The New Saga is only RM40k at it&#8217;s highest trim!</p>
<p>Kudos to proton. Time will tell if their QC has really improved.</p>
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		<title>By: mofo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-149009</link>
		<dc:creator>mofo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 03:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratz Proton, i cant expect every brand have &#039;Zero&#039; issue on all thier products. Its the matter how sincere they solve the problems with their customer [AFTER SALES SERVICE]. Anyway i could tell you all, i have bad impression with them with &#039;Dunno no care&#039; attitude.

About the sales figure, no doubt everyone knows that the main reason behind these numbers. But if they so good, pls consider lift up the high import tax to create healthy market. For anyone had the mind [Please give them time], 20 years++, enough yet ? or another 50 years ? Pointless, at the same time there&#039;s AP.

Come on, to support local suppliers ? is this open for every citizen in malaysia ? no doubts, you know i know. Pls don;t defend just because you like it, defend with facts. 

On another story, cheers to Proton with 23k booking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratz Proton, i cant expect every brand have &#8216;Zero&#8217; issue on all thier products. Its the matter how sincere they solve the problems with their customer [AFTER SALES SERVICE]. Anyway i could tell you all, i have bad impression with them with &#8216;Dunno no care&#8217; attitude.</p>
<p>About the sales figure, no doubt everyone knows that the main reason behind these numbers. But if they so good, pls consider lift up the high import tax to create healthy market. For anyone had the mind [Please give them time], 20 years++, enough yet ? or another 50 years ? Pointless, at the same time there&#8217;s AP.</p>
<p>Come on, to support local suppliers ? is this open for every citizen in malaysia ? no doubts, you know i know. Pls don;t defend just because you like it, defend with facts. </p>
<p>On another story, cheers to Proton with 23k booking.</p>
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		<title>By: tec96248</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-148996</link>
		<dc:creator>tec96248</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 02:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tokmoh said,
February 1, 2008 @ 11:58 pm 

--anyway, i don&#039;t totally agree with u. there always hv pro and cons. ever wonder why so much people working oversea and asked why the govn mentioned we are professional supplier? if its so tough out there, why a lot don&#039;t want to come back? why there&#039;s a time reasonly govn invited those who left to consider to come back or hv second home overhere? i don&#039;t understand why people been asked to leave just because complained about car selling overhere is expensive. maybe that fellow is incompetent somehow........
but then we can&#039;t claim that we are forced to buy certain things, this i agree...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tokmoh said,<br />
February 1, 2008 @ 11:58 pm </p>
<p>&#8211;anyway, i don&#8217;t totally agree with u. there always hv pro and cons. ever wonder why so much people working oversea and asked why the govn mentioned we are professional supplier? if its so tough out there, why a lot don&#8217;t want to come back? why there&#8217;s a time reasonly govn invited those who left to consider to come back or hv second home overhere? i don&#8217;t understand why people been asked to leave just because complained about car selling overhere is expensive. maybe that fellow is incompetent somehow&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
but then we can&#8217;t claim that we are forced to buy certain things, this i agree&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: scorpicore</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-148993</link>
		<dc:creator>scorpicore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 02:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you are right...Maybe P1 has done market survey among Malaysians regarding this before deciding on the options available for each different lines. I do hope to see N-lines are selling well too especially among kampung folks since it is the cheapest option and buyers for b-lines do not need a reverse sensor for the price they pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you are right&#8230;Maybe P1 has done market survey among Malaysians regarding this before deciding on the options available for each different lines. I do hope to see N-lines are selling well too especially among kampung folks since it is the cheapest option and buyers for b-lines do not need a reverse sensor for the price they pay.</p>
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		<title>By: tec96248</title>
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		<dc:creator>tec96248</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 02:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>peYno said,
February 1, 2008 @ 6:40 pm 

prrrfthh P2 wudnt do so.. coz P2 is assembler not a car maker..
somemore Daihatsu got no sedan car mahh..

--hahahaha, r u still stuck in a tunnel? just couldn&#039;t help it when i saw ur comment.....who told u dahaitsu don&#039;t hv sedan car, kid? hahahakakaka.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>peYno said,<br />
February 1, 2008 @ 6:40 pm </p>
<p>prrrfthh P2 wudnt do so.. coz P2 is assembler not a car maker..<br />
somemore Daihatsu got no sedan car mahh..</p>
<p>&#8211;hahahaha, r u still stuck in a tunnel? just couldn&#8217;t help it when i saw ur comment&#8230;..who told u dahaitsu don&#8217;t hv sedan car, kid? hahahakakaka.</p>
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		<title>By: scorpicore</title>
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		<dc:creator>scorpicore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 02:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My arguement is very simple. The fact is P1 is advertising in the media the lowest price of the new saga, but again MOST malaysians do need some security system for their car, which cost more. And for those who just want simple accessory like reverse sensor need to buy the most expensive option which bundled with airbag, is this logical?. 
1. The cheapest model has power-steering but no alarm system. Is power-steering cost much less? Why not without power-steering for potential kampung folks buyer, so the price will be much cheaper...they will be more happier.
2. It is very expensive to have reverse sensor installed? I am sure urban folks with small parking lots will find this option essentially important. But why it only offers in the most expensive model?
The rest like airbag, alloy rims are alright to be bundled with the most expensive package, no question about that.
Emmmm.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My arguement is very simple. The fact is P1 is advertising in the media the lowest price of the new saga, but again MOST malaysians do need some security system for their car, which cost more. And for those who just want simple accessory like reverse sensor need to buy the most expensive option which bundled with airbag, is this logical?.<br />
1. The cheapest model has power-steering but no alarm system. Is power-steering cost much less? Why not without power-steering for potential kampung folks buyer, so the price will be much cheaper&#8230;they will be more happier.<br />
2. It is very expensive to have reverse sensor installed? I am sure urban folks with small parking lots will find this option essentially important. But why it only offers in the most expensive model?<br />
The rest like airbag, alloy rims are alright to be bundled with the most expensive package, no question about that.<br />
Emmmm&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: chap_de_x</title>
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		<dc:creator>chap_de_x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 23:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wah 5 month waiting period... how about persona waiting period...is it also like the saga...which one is more worth it to wait..anyone??

By the way give the chance la to p1 for improvement..always think negative first when it come to p1. what past is past...let them improve ok... if they do it like last time its the bashing time again...but if its not please be honest with yourself by praise it a little bit...others car manufacture also have quality issue but because of the brand we dont want to admit it

btw...g luck p1...after your revenue is up dont forget to increase the r&amp;d so we malaysian can get better car in the future...for example our home made transmission system</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wah 5 month waiting period&#8230; how about persona waiting period&#8230;is it also like the saga&#8230;which one is more worth it to wait..anyone??</p>
<p>By the way give the chance la to p1 for improvement..always think negative first when it come to p1. what past is past&#8230;let them improve ok&#8230; if they do it like last time its the bashing time again&#8230;but if its not please be honest with yourself by praise it a little bit&#8230;others car manufacture also have quality issue but because of the brand we dont want to admit it</p>
<p>btw&#8230;g luck p1&#8230;after your revenue is up dont forget to increase the r&amp;d so we malaysian can get better car in the future&#8230;for example our home made transmission system</p>
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		<title>By: adunadun</title>
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		<dc:creator>adunadun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>abtm said,
February 1, 2008 @ 8:31 am 

GOOD JOB PROTON????

the only reason why it sells like pasar malam is because it has no competition, weâ€™re forced to by it- good or crap
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our country, why want to open our market to others just like that? give them some hard time lah. u know what happen if car price too cheap? then other item will increase. for example: property. then still u will say force to buy expensive property. ohoho
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anyway sbb dah 5 months waiting list, so i think quality standard could be drop. so proton staff at production line mesti letih lah korang ,hahaha.

so proton owner, give some good return to your production line lah if they archieve quality target. baru semangat skit diorg tu nak kerja.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>abtm said,<br />
February 1, 2008 @ 8:31 am </p>
<p>GOOD JOB PROTON????</p>
<p>the only reason why it sells like pasar malam is because it has no competition, weâ€™re forced to by it- good or crap<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>our country, why want to open our market to others just like that? give them some hard time lah. u know what happen if car price too cheap? then other item will increase. for example: property. then still u will say force to buy expensive property. ohoho<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
anyway sbb dah 5 months waiting list, so i think quality standard could be drop. so proton staff at production line mesti letih lah korang ,hahaha.</p>
<p>so proton owner, give some good return to your production line lah if they archieve quality target. baru semangat skit diorg tu nak kerja.</p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-148885</link>
		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quality at this stage is so crucial to proton. Think if 23k have some sort of defaults on it. People will not put up with it more in future.
Wait and see</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quality at this stage is so crucial to proton. Think if 23k have some sort of defaults on it. People will not put up with it more in future.<br />
Wait and see</p>
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		<title>By: tokmoh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-148864</link>
		<dc:creator>tokmoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>abtm said,

February 1, 2008 @ 8:31 am

the only reason why it sells like pasar malam is because it has no competition, weâ€™re forced to by it- good or crap

&gt;&gt;&gt;Myvi still on top of sales chart even after Persona n Viva introduced. Dare u say Myvi is the cheapest n that it sells cuz ppl r forced to buy it?

Stop underestimating Msians. Today, I see Mini Cooper everyday everywhere I go, I definitely think Msians are having a better life (to be able to buy a cramped, all style wit little substance car, that means we&#039;ve reached a level we can showoff wit excessive money) than what you may think. If u still feel u&#039;re &quot;forced to buy Proton&quot;, then that just means u nd to work harder so that u can buy a better car than ranting here abt cars too xpnsv. If u seriously think life is a bed of roses in US/Japan/UK/Australia, then u rly nd some reality check.

Always demanding for cheap cars, isn&#039;t that exactly what the gahmen is doin to us when it comes to fuel price? Gahmen always say we hv cheapest fuel, we say they&#039;re lame, give reasons like purchasing power parity lah, not plausible to change currency directly lah blablabla, so what makes them think it&#039;s not lame of us to demand cheap cars? I dun care w/e excuse u guys r giving, it&#039;s the same effect to them. They will still think u&#039;re ungrateful, lame n &quot;kalo tak suka, keluar dari Msia&quot;.

There&#039;s two choices here:
1. Change the gahmen (very unlikely)
2. Change ourselves to become rich (much more realistic n easier to achieve). Wanna know how, read books written by rich ppl. Robert Kiyosaki is a gud one.

Of course, migrating is easy, but that&#039;s just like a dog chasing its tail. The trouble won&#039;t disappear, n then u&#039;re stuck in a cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>abtm said,</p>
<p>February 1, 2008 @ 8:31 am</p>
<p>the only reason why it sells like pasar malam is because it has no competition, weâ€™re forced to by it- good or crap</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;Myvi still on top of sales chart even after Persona n Viva introduced. Dare u say Myvi is the cheapest n that it sells cuz ppl r forced to buy it?</p>
<p>Stop underestimating Msians. Today, I see Mini Cooper everyday everywhere I go, I definitely think Msians are having a better life (to be able to buy a cramped, all style wit little substance car, that means we&#8217;ve reached a level we can showoff wit excessive money) than what you may think. If u still feel u&#8217;re &#8220;forced to buy Proton&#8221;, then that just means u nd to work harder so that u can buy a better car than ranting here abt cars too xpnsv. If u seriously think life is a bed of roses in US/Japan/UK/Australia, then u rly nd some reality check.</p>
<p>Always demanding for cheap cars, isn&#8217;t that exactly what the gahmen is doin to us when it comes to fuel price? Gahmen always say we hv cheapest fuel, we say they&#8217;re lame, give reasons like purchasing power parity lah, not plausible to change currency directly lah blablabla, so what makes them think it&#8217;s not lame of us to demand cheap cars? I dun care w/e excuse u guys r giving, it&#8217;s the same effect to them. They will still think u&#8217;re ungrateful, lame n &#8220;kalo tak suka, keluar dari Msia&#8221;.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s two choices here:<br />
1. Change the gahmen (very unlikely)<br />
2. Change ourselves to become rich (much more realistic n easier to achieve). Wanna know how, read books written by rich ppl. Robert Kiyosaki is a gud one.</p>
<p>Of course, migrating is easy, but that&#8217;s just like a dog chasing its tail. The trouble won&#8217;t disappear, n then u&#8217;re stuck in a cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: madimat</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-148861</link>
		<dc:creator>madimat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>abtm said,

February 1, 2008 @ 8:31 am

GOOD JOB PROTON????

the only reason why it sells like pasar malam is because it has no competition, weâ€™re forced to by it- good or crap

++++++++++++++++++++++

Sir, nobody FORCED you to buy Proton car. People buy it because they LIKE it. For example, some Singaporean bought some Proton cars not because they can&#039;t afford the other brands. And Proton cars (and also Perodua cars) sold in Singapore are not really that cheap either. Although Proton not selling cars in big numbers over there but some still buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>abtm said,</p>
<p>February 1, 2008 @ 8:31 am</p>
<p>GOOD JOB PROTON????</p>
<p>the only reason why it sells like pasar malam is because it has no competition, weâ€™re forced to by it- good or crap</p>
<p>++++++++++++++++++++++</p>
<p>Sir, nobody FORCED you to buy Proton car. People buy it because they LIKE it. For example, some Singaporean bought some Proton cars not because they can&#8217;t afford the other brands. And Proton cars (and also Perodua cars) sold in Singapore are not really that cheap either. Although Proton not selling cars in big numbers over there but some still buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: megatron</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-148829</link>
		<dc:creator>megatron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;This just goes to prove that Mahaleelâ€™s policies were all wrong. That idiot made three hatchbacks since Waja. Hatchbacks are only for a minority group, the fast and furious. It should have been the other way round, three sedans and one hatchback. Good job Tahir for making cars that the rakyat wants i.e. sedans.&quot;

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Gen2&#039;s failure is mainly due to its poor quality. Not really because of whether it&#039;s hatchback or not.... Look at Myvi , it&#039;s a hatchback infact the boot is smaller than Gen2 but people accept it because of its quality..... Neo and Savvy were developed before Myvi came in to the market it cannibalized Gen2 and Savvy&#039;s market</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;This just goes to prove that Mahaleelâ€™s policies were all wrong. That idiot made three hatchbacks since Waja. Hatchbacks are only for a minority group, the fast and furious. It should have been the other way round, three sedans and one hatchback. Good job Tahir for making cars that the rakyat wants i.e. sedans.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Gen2&#8217;s failure is mainly due to its poor quality. Not really because of whether it&#8217;s hatchback or not&#8230;. Look at Myvi , it&#8217;s a hatchback infact the boot is smaller than Gen2 but people accept it because of its quality&#8230;.. Neo and Savvy were developed before Myvi came in to the market it cannibalized Gen2 and Savvy&#8217;s market</p>
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		<title>By: sunsilk</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-148827</link>
		<dc:creator>sunsilk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>swt...5 months...then who booking rite now hv to wait untill july...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>swt&#8230;5 months&#8230;then who booking rite now hv to wait untill july&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: megatron</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-148825</link>
		<dc:creator>megatron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;to me the car is not cheap but within a lots of peopleâ€™s budget and cheapest new sedan on the marketâ€¦.&#039;
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You sound like Mr Lingg...  &quot;It looks like me and sounds like me but it wasn&#039;t me&quot;  Correct correct correct...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;to me the car is not cheap but within a lots of peopleâ€™s budget and cheapest new sedan on the marketâ€¦.&#8217;<br />
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You sound like Mr Lingg&#8230;  &#8220;It looks like me and sounds like me but it wasn&#8217;t me&#8221;  Correct correct correct&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: szw</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-148820</link>
		<dc:creator>szw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GO proton !!!
beat the crap out of M...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GO proton !!!<br />
beat the crap out of M&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Roti Naan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-148814</link>
		<dc:creator>Roti Naan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t think this proton car is &quot;cheap&quot;. It&#039;s indeed cheaper compared to other car models in its class due to the tax manipulation by the GOVT.  

If the playfield is level among other car manufacturers, then proton will not be competitive selling their cars like hot cake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t think this proton car is &#8220;cheap&#8221;. It&#8217;s indeed cheaper compared to other car models in its class due to the tax manipulation by the GOVT.  </p>
<p>If the playfield is level among other car manufacturers, then proton will not be competitive selling their cars like hot cake.</p>
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		<title>By: White Jack</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-148809</link>
		<dc:creator>White Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Proton can come up with new high quality models to compete with VIOS/City price range and Civic/Altis range, that will be pretty much taking the foreign car market in Msia already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Proton can come up with new high quality models to compete with VIOS/City price range and Civic/Altis range, that will be pretty much taking the foreign car market in Msia already.</p>
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		<title>By: avanza</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/02/01/proton-saga-23000-bookings-5-month-wait/#comment-148797</link>
		<dc:creator>avanza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just goes to prove that Mahaleel&#039;s policies were all wrong. That idiot made three hatchbacks since Waja. Hatchbacks are only for a minority group, the fast and furious. It should have been the other way round, three sedans and one hatchback. Good job Tahir for making cars that the rakyat wants i.e. sedans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just goes to prove that Mahaleel&#8217;s policies were all wrong. That idiot made three hatchbacks since Waja. Hatchbacks are only for a minority group, the fast and furious. It should have been the other way round, three sedans and one hatchback. Good job Tahir for making cars that the rakyat wants i.e. sedans.</p>
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