Comments on: Proton Waja Campro 1.6 Premium (CPS) Details

By: Hil-mei

Hil-mei — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:45:34 +0000

Maybe its just me…but it looks uglier after the facelift………sorry I like the original WAJA better…….

By: shaif

shaif — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:40:55 +0000

Leonardlee, its not normal not only for campro engine but also other type of engine if it catch on fire. Simple as that. Not only campro , new camry, even merc with 1/2 million prized also catch on fire. It depend on your luck…or suwei…ho..ho

By: leonardlee

leonardlee — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:34:09 +0000

Paul, all those fires that happen to these Campro engined cars, are they normal ? I mean, can this happen to any car or is the Campro engine lacking something that makes it catch fire more easily ?

By: hctiu

hctiu — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:32:15 +0000

WAJA CPS OUT NOW
So, When is Gen.2 and Satria Neo’s turn ?

By: fyzal

fyzal — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:09:32 +0000

WAJA is a nice n good car but IMHO i really dislike its power window button…

By: GTI

GTI — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:49:29 +0000

every body love proton..

By: King Samurai

King Samurai — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 00:56:59 +0000

Engine sudah tukar..good.Now change it to whole new car la. Waja already 8 years old..Proton..please do the Waja FMC this year..

By: nikolo98

nikolo98 — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:49:45 +0000

Kudos to the chaps at Proton, I like what they have done with the package of the car. Giving out auto-levelling Xenon lights, leather seats, gated shifter etc. really does make it an improvement. I guess the term “Premium” can be applied across the Proton line-up. However, still again, I think its a classic case of “too little, too late”. The looks still leaves much to be desired.

Paul, with Proton and their efforts lately to introduce the CPS and VIM, is there any news of Proton going into the “semi-automatic” tranny areas? Not sure if there was any news on this…. thanks a bunch!

By: cecibo

cecibo — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:04:25 +0000

don’t interested in the engine just like to say ‘ugly grill, ugly rear lights, overall an ugly car…

By: chap_de_x

chap_de_x — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:50:05 +0000

thanx for the info paul…waiting for your test drive…this new waja cps features is not great but not bad either i would say…the exterior look i think can be acceptable in 2@3 more years(i like those xenon head lamps looks)..the interior facelift is cool…nice looking and felt expensive…the most important is the CPS engine..hope what the graph show is the same with the reality…i hope this CPS+ VIM wil eliminate the torque drop problem from the prev campro version…btw…at first i thought gen2 cps will be launch first…mayb its for marketing purpose since persona still sell like hot cake so give it room to up the number some more before go with the high performance gen2 cps…i like the new sportier look of the new gen2…plus with high performance engine on the hood the new gen2 wil rox…so sad if the quality is still the same like prev gen2..hope its not. that what i think

By: maxrev

maxrev — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:14:16 +0000

well…
at least they tried to make this Waja better..
i think…

By: chanel

chanel — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 15:25:51 +0000

Waja Corporate?……
what is the different?

By: xfuture

xfuture — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 12:49:55 +0000

erm.. why there is no improvement on exterior design ?

By: msmar_453

msmar_453 — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 00:40:52 +0000

Er, anyone know about Waja Corporate?
Informed by someone that it’s only RM48,000!
Is is tue, Paul? Can you check the diff?

By: IsaacVky

IsaacVky — Sat, 09 Feb 2008 10:30:22 +0000

e-nabilll said,

February 9, 2008 @ 1:41 pm

Believe me. SpeedWorks boss wouldn’t bother to R&D new exhaust system for Campro CPS as everything is just the same. Bolt on and run.

By: proton GL

proton GL — Sat, 09 Feb 2008 06:39:20 +0000

maibatsu_thunder said,
February 9, 2008 @ 2:05 am

Besides the oil cooler are there any mods to the engine? Oil squirter jets as on B-Series Honda engines?
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could be one, since its quite spirited, for 7k engine speed,
piston need and clyinder need a good care,

lets see the fact,

By: e-nabilll

e-nabilll — Sat, 09 Feb 2008 05:41:55 +0000

wait for hotbits to make an exhaust system and adjustable cam pulleys..u wil easily get 135hp !

bt as someone said above…although the looks abit disjointed at the front…its starting to grow on me…if u see it in flesh it kinda looks nice and attractive in a weird way !

By: maibatsu_thunder

maibatsu_thunder — Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:05:57 +0000

Besides the oil cooler are there any mods to the engine? Oil squirter jets as on B-Series Honda engines?

By: bobdbilder

bobdbilder — Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:12:23 +0000

Gee, didn’t I ask for the performance curves a few days ago? This is scary. Somebody actually listens. Thank you. Neo CPS it is then!

I don’t think people (still) understand why there (still) is a Waja and a Gen 2/Persona. They are catered for a different market segment/demographic. The Waja appeals to the above 35, family oriented (and therefore has more income) market. If you wanted something more spirited its the Gen 2 or Neo. If you look at the whole product range, Proton caters to a wide market segment.

I would thought that the Waja would sell better in China because it is the least Japanese looking. It has its original intention for the Euro market and therefore would be good in China. At least Shanghai. I guess if Eurostar does it right, the Waja would be on the next boat.

By: BW

BW — Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:42:31 +0000

I think the silver Perdana behind the 1st picture is Paul’s perdana hehe…

By: naikmotoje

naikmotoje — Fri, 08 Feb 2008 03:21:31 +0000

cool…
come on buy one… hehe

By: LittleFire85

LittleFire85 — Fri, 08 Feb 2008 02:35:18 +0000

I think this will be difficult, coz if u want to plug in u need to change the whole engine head for the CPS + VIM. The IAFM maybe easier a bit but still the ECU mapping may need to remap again…

New stuff are not cheap man…Even last time i heard a new Waja auto Gearbox from Proton almost cost a bomb (RM10k if i not mistaken)… If proton really did this, how the old engine goes if they trade in ur old wif new? Sell it to China? Or scrap it for nothing? I think for Proton ppl, they will just ask u to change for new car for more benefits.

By: maknyer

maknyer — Fri, 08 Feb 2008 02:32:41 +0000

LittleFire85, oo man! i mess up with my calculators,sory!

i went to proton showroom to see the new WAJA CPS, the seats are better than the 1st waja model. the gated gear shifters are quite tricky to use, but looks nice actually.

hopefully new proton models will have a smoother signals&wipers stalks like the myvi’s.

By: ky7

ky7 — Fri, 08 Feb 2008 02:14:21 +0000

the exterior really need a make over, butt great news bout the engine, hope they’ll make a 1.8l version ang pu it into a Satria neo GTi or sumthing..that would be great!!!

on a side note, I’d stumble a P1 basher,who not only deletes every comment thats pro P1, he also insults n curses everyone

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5csPVDMw928

By: andrewdaniel

andrewdaniel — Fri, 08 Feb 2008 02:10:21 +0000

The engine performance seem to be good but whether it is reliable that’s another question. The exterior design of Waja is just boring I think I will consider buying it if after the engine is tested but consumer at least 3 years and this but into New Saga or Persona. Anywhere it’s good sign Proton is improving. Pls continue so that my son in 10years time will get cheaper and better car.

By: infinity

infinity — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:38:04 +0000

i think proton should use the campro with cps+vim in it h-line model and campro with IAFM for its other models…the old campro engine should not be produced anymore..
1 question…any idea whether those driving waja campro,gen2,satria neo and persona using the old campro engine, can upgrade their engine to cps+vim campro or IAFM campro?? like plug the system into the engine or some sort like tat??

By: LittleFire85

LittleFire85 — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:39:02 +0000

Anyway where is the Gen.2 CPS? huh, Thailand get first and now gone?

By: LittleFire85

LittleFire85 — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:23:02 +0000

maknyer, u need to improve ur maths. 175-145 = 30bhp while 125-110 = 15bhp is almost 50% difference leh… not almost same…

By: szw

szw — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:37:06 +0000

this is what im waiting 4 , muahahaha !!!

By: e-nabilll

e-nabilll — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:34:14 +0000

paul , any idea if its still using the same springs and dampers as the std waja?? from the pics it looks like the CPS sits abit lower than the std waja…