Comments on: Subaru turbodiesel to debut in Legacy and Outback http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:59:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: redliner http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-151844 redliner Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:20:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-151844 why proton is not developing diesel engine? now a days, diesel engine is a efficient as petrol fueled engine and furthermore, will cost drivers lesser RM to move around. why proton is not developing diesel engine? now a days, diesel engine is a efficient as petrol fueled engine and furthermore, will cost drivers lesser RM to move around.

]]> By: poster http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-151477 poster Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:38:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-151477 no comment no comment

]]> By: petulance http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-151117 petulance Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:17:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-151117 bmpower said, February 11, 2008 @ 4:11 pm Subaru? not sell well around the world.. except imprezza. Maaate .... the Forester is Subaru's best selling car in Oz. And the Outback / Legacy station wagons are popular family cars. And the non-turbo Imprezas are popular as a no-nonsense realiable car (I drive one myself). In fact, the non-turbo Imprezas are more common than the turbo (WRX) versions. Subie make practical, reliable cars that you can drive to the snowfields in Oz or out on country roads. A fully specced Liberty (2.5 GT or 3.0) offers more value for money (and probably a better driving experience) than a similarly priced entry level Beemer. In fact, the only reason you would get an entry level Beemer over a Liberty is the snob factor. Which probably explains why you see more Asians in Oz driving entry level Beemers than Libertys. It is all about "face" and showing off ... bmpower said,

February 11, 2008 @ 4:11 pm

Subaru? not sell well around the world.. except imprezza.

Maaate …. the Forester is Subaru’s best selling car in Oz. And the Outback / Legacy station wagons are popular family cars. And the non-turbo Imprezas are popular as a no-nonsense realiable car (I drive one myself). In fact, the non-turbo Imprezas are more common than the turbo (WRX) versions.

Subie make practical, reliable cars that you can drive to the snowfields in Oz or out on country roads.

A fully specced Liberty (2.5 GT or 3.0) offers more value for money (and probably a better driving experience) than a similarly priced entry level Beemer. In fact, the only reason you would get an entry level Beemer over a Liberty is the snob factor. Which probably explains why you see more Asians in Oz driving entry level Beemers than Libertys. It is all about “face” and showing off …

]]> By: 4G63T DSM http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-151056 4G63T DSM Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:33:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-151056 I don't know where'd you get your figures from... Subaru IS popular car, and not just the impreza. Like I said, look beyond your own front yard when you comment on other brands. Ask anyone that have lived in a cold, snow bound country and they'd tell you how popular a subaru is. You dont see many of them because for the same size class, subaru's are higher priced due to more content like AWD.... They are a niche player. They are priced very near the premium end of the market, with usual top spec cars even out pricing entry level BMWs. Obviously if you compare to the giants like GM and Toyota, they are not even near, but last checked they were pushing over 1/2 mill cars a year. Thats a big achievement when you only got main 3 models (Legacy, Forrester, Impreza) in the major markets... Modern 2.0 turbo diesels will very easily out HP 1.6 petrol engines....AND more importantly have 2 times the torque. I don’t know where’d you get your figures from…

Subaru IS popular car, and not just the impreza.

Like I said, look beyond your own front yard when you comment on other brands. Ask anyone that have lived in a cold, snow bound country and they’d tell you how popular a subaru is.

You dont see many of them because for the same size class, subaru’s are higher priced due to more content like AWD…. They are a niche player. They are priced very near the premium end of the market, with usual top spec cars even out pricing entry level BMWs.

Obviously if you compare to the giants like GM and Toyota, they are not even near, but last checked they were pushing over 1/2 mill cars a year. Thats a big achievement when you only got main 3 models (Legacy, Forrester, Impreza) in the major markets…

Modern 2.0 turbo diesels will very easily out HP 1.6 petrol engines….AND more importantly have 2 times the torque.

]]> By: bmpower http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-151021 bmpower Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:11:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-151021 yea.. had to agree.. this proton persona wannabe :p anyway.. does 2.0 turbo diesel equal power with 1.6l petrol? as known, diesel engine got less power and HP than petrol engine.. Subaru? not sell well around the world.. except imprezza. yea.. had to agree..
this proton persona wannabe :p

anyway.. does 2.0 turbo diesel equal power with 1.6l petrol?
as known, diesel engine got less power and HP than petrol engine..

Subaru? not sell well around the world.. except imprezza.

]]> By: harry potter http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150998 harry potter Mon, 11 Feb 2008 06:35:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150998 IT`s A very safe car to drive. IT`s A very safe car to drive.

]]> By: harry potter http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150997 harry potter Mon, 11 Feb 2008 06:33:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150997 IIHS Subaru Legacy www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=358 NHTSA Subaru Legacy www.safercar.gov/Cars/4360.html IIHS Subaru Legacy

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=358

NHTSA Subaru Legacy

http://www.safercar.gov/Cars/4360.html

]]> By: petulance http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150988 petulance Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:38:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150988 Proton Pesona lookalike? The Legacy has been around since 2003/2004 ... they changed the front grille last year where the 2 chrome lines became more V-shaped. An ugly face lift if you ask me. I'm worried about the next-gen Legacy as Subaru are doing their best to make their cars look ugly (see the new Impreza and Forester). Proton Pesona lookalike? The Legacy has been around since 2003/2004 … they changed the front grille last year where the 2 chrome lines became more V-shaped. An ugly face lift if you ask me.

I’m worried about the next-gen Legacy as Subaru are doing their best to make their cars look ugly (see the new Impreza and Forester).

]]> By: wildthingz http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150981 wildthingz Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:23:14 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150981 YAA LAH WHY LOOK LIKE PERSONA? ITS A CUT AND PASTE AGAIN. INI SEMUANYA BERMULA DARI UNIVERSITI. OUR STUDENTS LIKE TO COPY AND PASTE THEIR ASSIGNMENTS. !!!!! wakakakkaa yesss i aggreeee with u even medical student that i handle always caught by their lecturer bcuz cut and paste if they become the doctor sure they cut and paste our body too wakakkaka this car and persona who cut who paste huh can anyone answer......this car sure keluar asap manyak design ok but pollute the air or its have filter.... YAA LAH WHY LOOK LIKE PERSONA? ITS A CUT AND PASTE AGAIN. INI SEMUANYA BERMULA DARI UNIVERSITI. OUR STUDENTS LIKE TO COPY AND PASTE THEIR ASSIGNMENTS. !!!!!

wakakakkaa yesss i aggreeee with u even medical student that i handle always caught by their lecturer bcuz cut and paste if they become the doctor sure they cut and paste our body too wakakkaka this car and persona who cut who paste huh can anyone answer……this car sure keluar asap manyak design ok but pollute the air or its have filter….

]]> By: 4G63T DSM http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150973 4G63T DSM Mon, 11 Feb 2008 04:58:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150973 Persona look alike...hahah...right. Come out from under your coconut shell, and look around.......not everything with wheels on them look like proton products. Wondering if you know this came out in 2004........... The 2.0 Boxer diesel would be nice. Unfortunately we dont see a lot of small modern diesels. I drive a 307 diesel when I'm in Europe. Damn good engine. Somehow the french make very good diesels, even better than VW. Persona look alike…hahah…right.

Come out from under your coconut shell, and look around…….not everything with wheels on them look like proton products.

Wondering if you know this came out in 2004………..

The 2.0 Boxer diesel would be nice. Unfortunately we dont see a lot of small modern diesels. I drive a 307 diesel when I’m in Europe. Damn good engine. Somehow the french make very good diesels, even better than VW.

]]> By: Jeffrey1977 http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150962 Jeffrey1977 Mon, 11 Feb 2008 03:51:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150962 Dunn wanna end up with police/jpj saman!! Dunn wanna end up with police/jpj saman!!

]]> By: Jeffrey1977 http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150961 Jeffrey1977 Mon, 11 Feb 2008 03:49:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150961 Is our diesel grade compatible with this car? Is our diesel grade compatible with this car?

]]> By: dr_carz http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150960 dr_carz Mon, 11 Feb 2008 03:49:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150960 YAA LAH WHY LOOK LIKE PERSONA? ITS A CUT AND PASTE AGAIN. INI SEMUANYA BERMULA DARI UNIVERSITI. OUR STUDENTS LIKE TO COPY AND PASTE THEIR ASSIGNMENTS. !!!!! YAA LAH WHY LOOK LIKE PERSONA? ITS A CUT AND PASTE AGAIN. INI SEMUANYA BERMULA DARI UNIVERSITI. OUR STUDENTS LIKE TO COPY AND PASTE THEIR ASSIGNMENTS. !!!!!

]]> By: brutus http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150944 brutus Mon, 11 Feb 2008 02:45:59 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150944 when will car manufacturers bring in more diesel variant to the Malaysian market? when will car manufacturers bring in more diesel variant to the Malaysian market?

]]> By: hameed koyakuti http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150943 hameed koyakuti Mon, 11 Feb 2008 02:45:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150943 HAAAAHHHH.........why the front portion is PERSONA-LOOK-A-LIKE.......??? Sniff sniff.......... HAAAAHHHH………why the front portion is PERSONA-LOOK-A-LIKE…….??? Sniff sniff……….

]]> By: MaverickNeo http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150937 MaverickNeo Mon, 11 Feb 2008 02:39:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150937 I think Subaru makes good cars...I've driven one b4, forgot the model but it was a damn good drive, all-wheel drive system is awesome, the suspension was equally impressive. I wonder y it doesn't sell well here...no-one bringing in the cars? Expensive bc of taxes? I think Subaru makes good cars…I’ve driven one b4, forgot the model but it was a damn good drive, all-wheel drive system is awesome, the suspension was equally impressive. I wonder y it doesn’t sell well here…no-one bringing in the cars? Expensive bc of taxes?

]]> By: aesthari http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150936 aesthari Mon, 11 Feb 2008 02:32:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150936 Woah, very nice, have always like the car, especially the 2.0GT with TMIC, and now its turbodiesel too! Cool! Woah, very nice, have always like the car, especially the 2.0GT with TMIC, and now its turbodiesel too! Cool!

]]> By: maibatsu_thunder http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150932 maibatsu_thunder Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:55:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150932 Wow a DIESEL boxer! I'd really like to hear how it sounds! Wow a DIESEL boxer! I’d really like to hear how it sounds!

]]> By: fyzal http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150930 fyzal Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:51:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150930 front looks : persona wannabe (headlamp bn grille radiator)...hehehehe front looks : persona wannabe (headlamp bn grille radiator)…hehehehe

]]> By: petulance http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150919 petulance Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:05:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150919 nanashisan said, February 11, 2008 @ 12:54 am guys, the turbodiesel is 2.0L right??? -------------------------------------- Yes, the boxer diesel is a 2.0 litre engine producing 110kW of power and 350 Nm of torque. Autocar magazine (UK) has a glowing review http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Subaru-Legacy-2.0TD-R/230393/ So does Top Gear http://www.topgear.com/blogs/drives/146-subaru-legacy-diesel/ As a comparison, the Legacy (Liberty) in Oz is currently offered in three petrol versions, a 2.5 litre turbo, a 2.5 litre N/A and a 6 cylinder 3.0 litre N/A. 2.5 litre turbo 184 kW / 339 Nm 2.5 litre N/A 127kW / 226 Nm 3.0 litre N/A 180kW / 297 Nm Heck, if I had a family with 2 kids, I would be driving a Legacy wagon. Good enough to drop the kids off at school, lots of practical space for kids/family stuff in the back and a great car to drive. nanashisan said,

February 11, 2008 @ 12:54 am

guys, the turbodiesel is 2.0L right???

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Yes, the boxer diesel is a 2.0 litre engine producing 110kW of power and 350 Nm of torque. Autocar magazine (UK) has a glowing review

http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Subaru-Legacy-2.0TD-R/230393/

So does Top Gear

http://www.topgear.com/blogs/drives/146-subaru-legacy-diesel/

As a comparison, the Legacy (Liberty) in Oz is currently offered in three petrol versions, a 2.5 litre turbo, a 2.5 litre N/A and a 6 cylinder 3.0 litre N/A.

2.5 litre turbo 184 kW / 339 Nm
2.5 litre N/A 127kW / 226 Nm
3.0 litre N/A 180kW / 297 Nm

Heck, if I had a family with 2 kids, I would be driving a Legacy wagon. Good enough to drop the kids off at school, lots of practical space for kids/family stuff in the back and a great car to drive.

]]> By: maxrev http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150882 maxrev Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:11:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150882 i hope that subaru can make the Impreza STi in diesel version... now that is going to make a hit!!! i hope that subaru can make the Impreza STi in diesel version…
now that is going to make a hit!!!

]]> By: maxrev http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150881 maxrev Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:10:07 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150881 hope its as good as the petrol version.. though they should make a STi version in a diesel.. now that is going to make controversies.... hope its as good as the petrol version..
though they should make a STi version in a diesel..
now that is going to make controversies….

]]> By: nanashisan http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150879 nanashisan Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:54:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150879 i hope motor image will bring diesel engine option rather than thinking how bad we have our diesels here. its business here... guys, the turbodiesel is 2.0L right??? i hope motor image will bring diesel engine option rather than thinking how bad we have our diesels here. its business here…

guys, the turbodiesel is 2.0L right???

]]> By: szw http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150862 szw Sun, 10 Feb 2008 15:19:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150862 the new turbodiesel unveil... the new turbodiesel unveil…

]]> By: mitlanevo http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150861 mitlanevo Sun, 10 Feb 2008 15:19:37 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150861 nice :-) nice :-)

]]> By: sah147 http://paultan.org/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150851 sah147 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 14:33:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/02/10/subaru-turbodiesel-to-debut-in-legacy-and-outback/#comment-150851 Is the engine a boxer or inline-4? I thought that they are different piston layouts? Is the engine a boxer or inline-4? I thought that they are different piston layouts?

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