Mengapa tak minta RON 99 cuma RM0.50 seliter je? Hehehe…. org malaysia tak kira cina, india dan melayu semua nak murah dan bersubsidi…

Just run with RON 95 dude. If you're not satisfy, live at singapore or Thailand. End of story.

I spend 3 yrs live at Bangkok. i learn something here. Petrol is a gold. Expensive. So just pump whatever fuel u get as long as cheap and it can run ur vehicle. RON 99? forget it! Enjin rosak? so buy cheap car instead of civic type r. Kuat telan minyak? so buy low cc cars.

Cadangan saya , untuk minyak RON95 adalah untuk golongan berpendapatan rendah dan sederhana khasnya bagi pemilik motosikal dan kenderaan kecil tapi itu terpulang kepada pengguna kerana pengguna adalah kuasa pembeli.Pembeli adalah berhak untuk menentukannya sementara bagi pihak pengeluar dan penjual adalah untuk memasarkan produk mereka.

You guys should worry about low to middle income people. Ppl riding on motorbike, driving Proton and Perodua are the main concern. If the govt implement this, by right, RON95 is supposed to be cheaper than RON97. I m afraid that older Proton cars need RON97 and above because of outdated engine technology.

I think the price for RON95 will still RM1.92 and government will saying that they will bankrupt if reduce price because all the while government is reducing their revenue (tax) collection from us and increasing subsidiaries.

We shall ban all the racing event in the world because it burns up the fuel that will be finished within 30years just for entertaining us.

The higher the RON number, the higher the resistance the fuel has to knock. Knock basically means premature uncontrolled combustion of the fuel in the chamber. If the compression ratio of the engine is too high for the fuel, it will start burning before the spark plug activates. The mixture will explode while the piston is moving up, and this will seriously damage the chamber walls and valves and piston.

Note that the RON standard is used primarily in Europe. Other countries use other standards, which usually average out the difference between the RON number and other numbers. In a country like Malaysia, there should only be fuels above RON95.

The government should take more time to research this, because we are not a big player in the automotive industry. In fact we are quite insignificant. This means that our fuel has to follow whatever the general trend is for cars being produced and imported here. They must also know that the national car maker is making cars with outdated technology, thus needing outdated fuels. Look at the Waja and Perdana for instance.

thats my suggestion

1. Just tax 1000 ringgit for impoted car
2. No tax at all for hybrid car
3. No for APs i mean all including sugar, rice etc
4. Bonus for civil servants
5. Increase the salary of Cabinet Ministers and all MPS
6. Increase Corporate tax
7. Decrease Income Tax
8. Elect me as the Penasihat to The PM and all is settle !

of course premium ulp may differ for different countries and diff companies but my calculations are for the difference of 8-16cents AUD difference between PULP and normal ULP. the savings increase exponentially when you are doing fluctuating and constant high speeds of 130-180kmh. normal city/highway driving PULP has the slight upper hand.

the only advantage ULP has is that u get to ‘see’ that u get more litres for the same amount of money (which usually plays with the minds of people with lower income groups as its cheaper for refineries to make or government to buy or at least thats what i think).

anyway my tests were done using normal ron92 ULP vs Ron98 BP ultimate and shell premium which is about ron97. caltex premium at ron97 gives the same results. civic 1.8 8th gen, 2001 corolla and a 1997 vtir integra and a 1988 nissan. other one timer tests were a 2001 and 2005 camrys.

prometheus
it is interesting the k20z requires minimum of ron91. i’d just stick with the premium if i were you. especially when it works out cheaper.

do away with the marketing hype or what the car mags complain when the cars dont accept lower octane fuel (and they have to pay more or premium) and perform your own tests. if they want to help lower economic class citizens save money then subsidize ron97 or more. dont just look for the cheapest fuel u can get your hands on.

but, as mentioned by others earlier, what about Diesel? it’s actually the most important fuel for economy & ‘price’ sensitive as we all know, fuel increase (diesel actually) mean other goods will also go up.. foods, road transport etc..

p/s: i know what PM said earlier.. no fuel price increase ‘so soon’.. but, to tell the truth, i don’t really trust that guy.. LOL

We should also stress that unless your car comes with knock sensors, the engine can only run a “fixed” octane level. Most older protons dont come with one – ie. 4G13/4G15/4G92 and even my 4G93 SOHC.

Older cars and cars not equipped with knock sensors will be stuck using very expensive fuel if this is passed. low to middle income families will be affected the most, since its unlikely they will be able to change cars on the onset of such policies.

However, you could retard the ignition timing (ie. up to 3-5 degrees BTDC – stock on protons/mitsu should be about 5-8 degrees) to run lower octane fuel (perhaps up to 2-3 points) but you will get a serius hit on power and fuel economy.

As per the Mazda, I haven’t crossed checked my data, but does it really run on RON87 or does it run on PON87?. Pump octane rating (PON) system is used on North america and its a few points down (ie. RON92 ~ PON87, RON97 ~ PON93)

RON99? emmm.. no benefit? why offer this product all over the country just to serve the rich n super rich?

why not maintain with current RON92 & RON97 but increase the price of RON97 and decrease RON92. RON99 is up to petrol station whether they want it or not, kinda like v-power, not available everywhere. on-demand item.

In addition, at the same time upgrade the diesel to AT LEAST Euro4 compliance and price the diesel, as cheap as possible.

so normal rakyat can either go for RON92 or diesel.
of course the new diesel might be the loophole coz there are rich people that use premium / luxury diesel vehicles. but if the new subsidy amount for RON97 and the new diesel is quite near then ok la.

Or perhaps Govt. need to think another strategy for diesel – its a must, many countries are moving to diesel – coz the demand is there, ppl just waiting for it.. (example what can be done –> introduce 2 grade of diesel.. Euro 2 and Euro 4 – where Euro 4 sell at premium), but whatever it is, Govt. need to polish their thinking some more, you r in the right track so dont waste it while u r there.

The 3 refineries; Petronas Melaka, Shell Port Dickson and Exxon Mobil Port Dickson, they process imported oil with a total of max production of 450,000 barrels/day. These feed the requirements for West Coast where most of the consumption is. Most of it is pumped to KVDT in Dengkil and it acts like a distribution centre. We only have Terengganu Refinery at max 40,000 barrels/day that process the Tapis blend sweet crude from offshore Terengganu and supplies East Coast West M’sia.

Please take into account that none of the refineries operate close to max production levels, ever.

jz let it b ron 95,97 n 98…its jz enough…but plz revise the fuel price…make it alot cheaper..

The rich who uses more fuel per km will pay more. The lower income people will use fuel saving vehicles and therefore pay less in fuel tax. In the current situation rich people uses fuel-guzzling vehicles therefore a lot of subsidy went to them.

Quality of Diesel, one of the world dirtiest diesel.

CHEAP? Not really if we compare with other world producing states.

Better solution than this is: Roadtax, gas prices based on MPG. The better the FC you pay lower, vice versa. Or calculated based on Co2 emission.

mitlanevo,

i second that!

@harry potter

I think there’s no harm if u pump higher RON fuel, but don’t expect any significant performance boost.

@bobdbuilder

Haha, that is korek korek korek!! Seriously, if govt really gonna intro RON99, I’d say sell it at unsubsidised price and focus the subsidies on the RON95 instead. Then less posers n losers can afford to show off edi, lol.

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