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	<title>Comments on: Proton to make Turkey European production center</title>
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	<description>Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry</description>
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		<title>By: dangermouse</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/03/proton-to-make-turkey-european-production-center/#comment-163586</link>
		<dc:creator>dangermouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 08:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CAn&#039;t seem to post the url of the source for this data. It&#039;s on
ssmt dot co dot uk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CAn&#8217;t seem to post the url of the source for this data. It&#8217;s on<br />
ssmt dot co dot uk.</p>
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		<title>By: dangermouse</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/03/proton-to-make-turkey-european-production-center/#comment-163584</link>
		<dc:creator>dangermouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 08:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>source:
http://www.smmt.co.uk/dataservices/dsarchive.cfm?catid=1134&amp;maincatid=551&amp;sid=-2&amp;info=privacy

download the december 2007 data</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>source:<br />
<a href="http://www.smmt.co.uk/dataservices/dsarchive.cfm?catid=1134&amp;maincatid=551&amp;sid=-2&amp;info=privacy" rel="nofollow">http://www.smmt.co.uk/dataservices/dsarchive.cfm?catid=1134&amp;maincatid=551&amp;sid=-2&amp;info=privacy</a></p>
<p>download the december 2007 data</p>
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		<title>By: dangermouse</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/03/proton-to-make-turkey-european-production-center/#comment-163583</link>
		<dc:creator>dangermouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 08:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P1 sales in UK 2007: 2,468 units (0.01% of total 2.4 million new registrations)

Don&#039;t know split by model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P1 sales in UK 2007: 2,468 units (0.01% of total 2.4 million new registrations)</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know split by model.</p>
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		<title>By: dangermouse</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/03/proton-to-make-turkey-european-production-center/#comment-163582</link>
		<dc:creator>dangermouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 07:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Difficult to find stats....
UK proton sales 2007: 2,468 units (0.1% of total market, 2.4million new cars registered). Don&#039;t have the breakdown by model.

Source:
http://www.smmt.co.uk/dataservices/dsarchive.cfm?catid=1134&amp;maincatid=551&amp;sid=-2&amp;info=privacy
download report from Dec 2007

For comparison, P2 sales: 767 units</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Difficult to find stats&#8230;.<br />
UK proton sales 2007: 2,468 units (0.1% of total market, 2.4million new cars registered). Don&#8217;t have the breakdown by model.</p>
<p>Source:<br />
<a href="http://www.smmt.co.uk/dataservices/dsarchive.cfm?catid=1134&amp;maincatid=551&amp;sid=-2&amp;info=privacy" rel="nofollow">http://www.smmt.co.uk/dataservices/dsarchive.cfm?catid=1134&amp;maincatid=551&amp;sid=-2&amp;info=privacy</a><br />
download report from Dec 2007</p>
<p>For comparison, P2 sales: 767 units</p>
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		<title>By: mukhri88</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/03/proton-to-make-turkey-european-production-center/#comment-163322</link>
		<dc:creator>mukhri88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 04:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those been to Turkiye, what kind of cars do folks there drive really.. big or small, European, American or Japanese... Does Savvy and Persona make sense in Turkiye? Coz if I&#039;m not mistaken, Savvy enjoyed not bad sales in UK? or smthin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those been to Turkiye, what kind of cars do folks there drive really.. big or small, European, American or Japanese&#8230; Does Savvy and Persona make sense in Turkiye? Coz if I&#8217;m not mistaken, Savvy enjoyed not bad sales in UK? or smthin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Roti Naan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/03/proton-to-make-turkey-european-production-center/#comment-163242</link>
		<dc:creator>Roti Naan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 03:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe there is this phantom proton factory?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe there is this phantom proton factory?</p>
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		<title>By: BanyakMasukWorkshop</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/03/proton-to-make-turkey-european-production-center/#comment-163232</link>
		<dc:creator>BanyakMasukWorkshop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 00:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>topgunthang, are you 100% sure proton pr dept did this? i find it very strange, because there isn&#039;t even any news about this in the local papers. knowing proton, and being a listed company, you cant simply blurt out news like this. sounds more like speculation on the turkish media&#039;s part.  

besides that, if you&#039;re gonna post about sales figures, why dont you enlighten us all about proton&#039;s uk and australia sales figures? i cant seem to find any info on it at all on the web. maybe i&#039;m searching in the wrong place.  

as for turkey, strangely enough, the turkish proton website doesnt even list the proton wira as being on sale at all. that picture of the old wira doesnt mean anything.  if i took a pic of an abandoned old car of any brand, and posted it on the web and said that company kaput already doesnt make it true either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>topgunthang, are you 100% sure proton pr dept did this? i find it very strange, because there isn&#8217;t even any news about this in the local papers. knowing proton, and being a listed company, you cant simply blurt out news like this. sounds more like speculation on the turkish media&#8217;s part.  </p>
<p>besides that, if you&#8217;re gonna post about sales figures, why dont you enlighten us all about proton&#8217;s uk and australia sales figures? i cant seem to find any info on it at all on the web. maybe i&#8217;m searching in the wrong place.  </p>
<p>as for turkey, strangely enough, the turkish proton website doesnt even list the proton wira as being on sale at all. that picture of the old wira doesnt mean anything.  if i took a pic of an abandoned old car of any brand, and posted it on the web and said that company kaput already doesnt make it true either.</p>
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		<title>By: 4G63T DSM</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/03/proton-to-make-turkey-european-production-center/#comment-163228</link>
		<dc:creator>4G63T DSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 00:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats the benefit of building cars in Turkey? 

Proton has already got more than excess of manufacturing capacity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats the benefit of building cars in Turkey? </p>
<p>Proton has already got more than excess of manufacturing capacity.</p>
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		<title>By: corolla_KE70</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/03/proton-to-make-turkey-european-production-center/#comment-163171</link>
		<dc:creator>corolla_KE70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 04:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>relax carsut... all we need to do is help him knock himself out over and over again..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>relax carsut&#8230; all we need to do is help him knock himself out over and over again..</p>
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		<title>By: carsut</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/03/proton-to-make-turkey-european-production-center/#comment-163169</link>
		<dc:creator>carsut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 04:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>topgunthang said,
May 3, 2008 @ 11:48 pm 

there goes protonâ€™s pr deparment spinning its web again. thier sales in australia/uk decimated already now even thinking of entering europe. hopeless. wat a waste of our money. different team. same old crap. 

makes me so angry. i think iâ€™d have to knock myself out.

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be +ve la weh.. dont think like a ulu kg guy... their hv make the decision, for sure their how what the consequences.. dont jz cakap ikut sedap mulut..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>topgunthang said,<br />
May 3, 2008 @ 11:48 pm </p>
<p>there goes protonâ€™s pr deparment spinning its web again. thier sales in australia/uk decimated already now even thinking of entering europe. hopeless. wat a waste of our money. different team. same old crap. </p>
<p>makes me so angry. i think iâ€™d have to knock myself out.</p>
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<p>be +ve la weh.. dont think like a ulu kg guy&#8230; their hv make the decision, for sure their how what the consequences.. dont jz cakap ikut sedap mulut..</p>
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		<title>By: csv</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/03/proton-to-make-turkey-european-production-center/#comment-163146</link>
		<dc:creator>csv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 16:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wahahaha, ulu motor.

really ulu ah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wahahaha, ulu motor.</p>
<p>really ulu ah.</p>
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		<title>By: topgunthang</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/03/proton-to-make-turkey-european-production-center/#comment-163144</link>
		<dc:creator>topgunthang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 15:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there goes proton&#039;s pr deparment spinning its web again. thier sales in australia/uk decimated already now even thinking of entering europe. hopeless. wat a waste of our money. different team. same old crap. 

makes me so angry. i think i&#039;d have to knock myself out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there goes proton&#8217;s pr deparment spinning its web again. thier sales in australia/uk decimated already now even thinking of entering europe. hopeless. wat a waste of our money. different team. same old crap. </p>
<p>makes me so angry. i think i&#8217;d have to knock myself out.</p>
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		<title>By: corolla_KE70</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/03/proton-to-make-turkey-european-production-center/#comment-163130</link>
		<dc:creator>corolla_KE70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 12:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hei don&#039;t kutuk2 ulang klang la!! that&#039;s my place! it&#039;s not mundur sangat what!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hei don&#8217;t kutuk2 ulang klang la!! that&#8217;s my place! it&#8217;s not mundur sangat what!!</p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/03/proton-to-make-turkey-european-production-center/#comment-163129</link>
		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 12:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the pic: http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8241/picture048dustywirraea6.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the pic: <a href="http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8241/picture048dustywirraea6.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8241/picture048dustywirraea6.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/03/proton-to-make-turkey-european-production-center/#comment-163128</link>
		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 12:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something wrong with the blog? I tried to post image of Wira in Turkey, my post did not come out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something wrong with the blog? I tried to post image of Wira in Turkey, my post did not come out</p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/03/proton-to-make-turkey-european-production-center/#comment-163127</link>
		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 11:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was what greeted me in Istanbul 2005 a day after the Liverpool Juve match. 
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8241/picture048dustywirraea6.jpg

That car was parked at the hotel car fleet area. Clearly can see like it has not moved for years</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was what greeted me in Istanbul 2005 a day after the Liverpool Juve match.<br />
<a href="http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8241/picture048dustywirraea6.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8241/picture048dustywirraea6.jpg</a></p>
<p>That car was parked at the hotel car fleet area. Clearly can see like it has not moved for years</p>
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		<title>By: BW</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/03/proton-to-make-turkey-european-production-center/#comment-163126</link>
		<dc:creator>BW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 11:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>e-nabilll said,

May 3, 2008 @ 6:53 pm

i tink in ulu klang la !

b4 seting up any operation thr,thy hav to market their cars first..thn see if its feasibleâ€¦
______________________________________________________________________________

Or even worst, Ulu Kapit!!! hahahaha jk jk
This is what we wanna hear... hehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>e-nabilll said,</p>
<p>May 3, 2008 @ 6:53 pm</p>
<p>i tink in ulu klang la !</p>
<p>b4 seting up any operation thr,thy hav to market their cars first..thn see if its feasibleâ€¦<br />
______________________________________________________________________________</p>
<p>Or even worst, Ulu Kapit!!! hahahaha jk jk<br />
This is what we wanna hear&#8230; hehe</p>
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		<title>By: e-nabilll</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/03/proton-to-make-turkey-european-production-center/#comment-163123</link>
		<dc:creator>e-nabilll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 10:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i tink in ulu klang la !

b4 seting up any operation thr,thy hav to market their cars first..thn see if its feasible...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i tink in ulu klang la !</p>
<p>b4 seting up any operation thr,thy hav to market their cars first..thn see if its feasible&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: adunadun</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/03/proton-to-make-turkey-european-production-center/#comment-163122</link>
		<dc:creator>adunadun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 10:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gudlah, time to reenter the market. late but not too late. if you read the article, there is some  import issue in 2000. after that problem, other asian importer come back,,,,,ermmm....but not p1...  let they try,gud luck,,,if no luck,,,then just stay here and ask gov to help u..haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gudlah, time to reenter the market. late but not too late. if you read the article, there is some  import issue in 2000. after that problem, other asian importer come back,,,,,ermmm&#8230;.but not p1&#8230;  let they try,gud luck,,,if no luck,,,then just stay here and ask gov to help u..haha</p>
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		<title>By: MyviKiller</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/03/proton-to-make-turkey-european-production-center/#comment-163120</link>
		<dc:creator>MyviKiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 09:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ulu distributor? Bwahahahahahahahah.....

Anyway, this is what we want to hear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ulu distributor? Bwahahahahahahahah&#8230;..</p>
<p>Anyway, this is what we want to hear.</p>
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		<title>By: normaluser</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/03/proton-to-make-turkey-european-production-center/#comment-163115</link>
		<dc:creator>normaluser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 08:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I&#039;m not mistaken, Proton closed shop on its Turkey manufacturing operations long time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I&#8217;m not mistaken, Proton closed shop on its Turkey manufacturing operations long time ago.</p>
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